It is a legit fight,but that doesn't mean that Juanma isn't ducking Pelenchin,because he is!!:poke:
I agree to a certain extent. I dont think they will never fight or that Juanma is scared to fight, but I do agree its getting a bit sad now. Pelechin is a good name to have on the resume and he's been throwing this challenge out for years now...they need to make it happen already, and if it never happens, I will be disappointed and have no choice but to believe he ducked him...sad but true...Still, I have hope for this fight right after the Marquez fight if Juanma can pull out a win.
Cotto has a shot at the upset, though it would be tough, all he has to do is make May fight and get him out of his comfort zone - not an easy task to do at all...but I think it could still be a competitive, entertaining match up.
No way Miguel gets disrespected for anything less than 35% of the split. He's not some unknown bum w/o a fan base. But i doubt this fight will even happen.
Why would he go and fight an old fighter that is past it when Gamboa and Celestino have been calling him out for OVER A YEAR?
There is only one reason I can think of, and it Pig Latin I would say it was because he is an "itchbay".....
Hey Idiot, ask Caballero why he called out Rafa if hes so washed up, do you even know about boxing, or do you just have that Mexican jealousy towards Boricuas? I think I know the answer. Like 25 said, Juanma has to get his name up more, and he will eventually fight Gamboa and Caba...Juanma has also been calling out Marquez for years, this didnt JUST happen. So next time u talk shit do your homework homie, that "tuff guy" Cababicho called out Rafa and Lopez in the same sentence.
In my honest opinion, I don't really find what he said racist, since he really didn't attack a certain racegroup and/or other culture. He's really mainly talking about his own race. He is, as he says, just being "biased." But that's just me.
Lmaoo Where did u get that gif for your sig? **** is hilarious.
He don't get a pass from me. Brothas like him with this "Blacks are superior" attitude embarrasses me. Fact is, Pac kills Shane, Berto, and Bradley right now. Look, Manny is the man right now and if he were black, these other brothas on here would be on his dick. This pisses me off because there ain't no one for Pac to fight that's even on his level except Floyd. And in my opinion, Floyd ain't do enough to warrant that #1 status. He let Pac pass him up and brothas don't wanna admit it. If you don't wanna fight Pac, cool, but at least fight someone else. Don't just sit there and let Pac run away with this ****! Brothas talkin **** on Pac for taking fights he's supposed to win. Thats BS, he's #1, he's supposed to win all his fights! What's he supposed to do? Retire? He ain't like Floyd who says he will hypothetically beat anyone so he shouldn't have to fight them. Thats ****in homo! Floyd, if you don't believe Pac deserves what he got, then do something about it, otherwise, stfu and accept it!
Nice fukin post bro I agree.
Dont get me wrong he fought a hard fight against Paul Williams. But if overgrown bully gets in ring with floyd or pac at their weight class he would get murked.
Pavlik was never the same after Bhop, and Cintron might have beaten Paul Williams if he hadnt jump off the ring to get an easy win in the score cards
Overall all the asset he has is his size. If you ask me thats just pathetic
Yo, wtf dude can ANYBODY get a win and have it be credible these days? It seems after every fight theres dudes like you findin any little thing to discredit the winner. A motherfuka could beat GOD and you'd still find some **** to say like, Nah he's not in his prime, he has 1 loss so hes damaged and was never the same, he had to lose a few extra pounds, no defense, no offense, wtf man just let it rock.
I'm obviously Rican and this fight doesn't mean **** to me. Hernandez is a bum I wont talk until one of us beat a top, prime opponent, not some journeyman. Calderon was a top fighter but Prime? Some dude posted that Ricans quit in their prime but gave Cotto a pass, bro the only Ricans on knees have been Cotto & Calderon & Calderon was the favorite but far from prime he had been slowing down a lot already, definitely was not the prime Calderon that guy was a lot faster so that point makes no sense. Ortiz, no matter where born, was prime and quit his blood is full Mexican & he quit. Cotto quit vs a cheater so you guys have no validity in that argument. Period.
Same can be said about Pissmouth Mexicans that talk a whole bunch of **** thru a keyboard. There's a lot of Pissmouths overhere in NYC and they know better then 2 even look at us the wrong way, let alone say half the **** some of these ***** ass Mexicans say over the internet.
lmaoooo FUNNY CUZ ITS TRUE!
I think he is a good fighter, I genuinely like him...but what I dont get is that the same people who dont think he is a quitter, choose not to dislike him for his quitting,or plain old ignore it - are the same ones who think fighters like Cotto lose credibility because of their so called "quitting". If you are going to hate on one fighter for "quitting", under even more dire conditions and bigger cuts, then you have to hate on the other for "quitting" too. Its not, let me say he is a quitter because he's Puerto Rican and at the same time respect and like an even bigger "quitter" because he is Mexican. If you quit you quit, thats it. I dont fight so I cant personally say that I like any fighter less if they quit, because I dont know what pain they are feeling - but it is more entertaining to see a fighter go out on his feet instead of calling a fight off, I get pissed when some of my fav fighters do it too, but I cant blame them either.
Hey man, I like your show and I think you have really good insight on things, would love to be a co-host but I dont have any web cam equipment, sucks...But keep up the good work.
whats worse is that puerto rico's so called best all lost to mexicans by quitting..and they were all undefeated too....bull**** aside, that must hurt more.
lopez just beat one of our past primed fighters at 35 years old.. hmmm
Which Bests are you speaking of? Cotto and Calderon? Thats ok, though Calderon was a favorite to win he wasnt prime at all so dont act like he is. And Cotto, cmon, we all know Marg cheated even if he didnt know the wraps were tampered with his trainer did. His trainer, who tried to cheat vs mosley, didnt try it with Cotto? Thats pure bs. His wraps were cracked too, after the fight, thats crazyy suspect. Plus I dont recall Tito or Gomez quitting vs Mexicans. Gomez went out like a G vs Sanchez, and Tito whupped every Mexican they put in front of him.
LMAO it is crazy I bet if Lopez pulled this excuse he would never be given credit by anyone on here. Props to the Mexicanos who admit Rafa pulled a ***** move and quit, the rest of you diks are in hardcore denial.
Finally someone with boxing knowledge
Yeah that shows reat knowledge, anybody who goes against the Boricua is just a genious. I wont lie, I want them to fight real bad just to shutup stupid posters like you.
I wonder how can Princessmanatroll be banned only in history section, and get banned 6 times and keep coming back to troll about?
Rick Reeno my former college classmate needs to get establish permanent bans.
Here are facts:
1)Lopez has NEVER BEEN knocked out.
2)Fighting an older experienced fighter also can work against you, remember Bhop vs Pavlik? An older fighter took the younger guy to school. Many mexicans thought Lopez would get knocked out, and look what happened. You can't do backflips over Segura beating a 35 year old Calderon who is only 5 feet tall than make excuses for Marquez who is almost the same height and reach of Lopez.
3)Lopez beat guys like Penalosa, who was NEVER knocked out, he traded punch with punch, and his chin held up unlike Amir Khan. He beat Deleon who was a prime contender.
4) I think Princesstroll is from scotland or wales, how many champs have they had compared to Puerto Rico an island of 4 million people. PR per capita has had more champs than any country in the world and here is how they stand up to the mighty 110 million country of Mexico in championship fights?
50 to 38, WTF?
Great post, TS just got owned lol.
This fight is again, something Lopez hater might bash him on - fighting another older vet and making him drain himself, I am sure I would hear that if this was to happen. Even thouh JMM is not half as shot as his bro is, he is still not a young bull of the featherweights. Juanma: Fight sum1 in your own division who is young, you need to show the haters something real.
there's the mexican UFC HW champ don't forget.I'm not mexican but I feel like the ricans on here are over doing it with the hate ,PR will never be able to be on the same level as Mexico when it comes to producing fighters it's common sense and there is no evidence what so ever that margarito used anything ilegal in the cotto bout.It's the past and you gotta let go of the hate.
Well, maybe no hard evidence but there is the common sense part of it. Did you see the pic of Margs wraps after the Cotto fight? They were cracking. Normal wraps dont crack man that **** is suspect. He cheats vs Mosley who Cotto already beat but he didnt cheat vs Cotto, why? Makes no sense my friend, you will see in the rematch.
Finally a rican talking some sense. Now explain it to the rest who wants to see a pointless rematch. To earn respect from any who is not a rican he needs to fight cab or gamboa and nobody would be able to discredit him.
Yeah man I never support easy or tailor made fights and I dont like that Juanma is kind of protected and how BOB puts him in with a lot of weak opposition. On the other hand though, I respect him bc he puts the bums to sleep most of the time, which is what he is supposed to do. And I just dont like when a guy like Gamboa can somehow get your respect but Juanma cant, meanwhile Gamboa has faced a lot crappier comp than Juanma has, so that right there pisses me off bc its biased. If you dont respect Juanma bs of his wack comp you should respect Gamboa either. Then, I can respect that view.
OK since we making excuses today and what not, if Juanma gets no credit than neither does Segura - Calderon had slowed up a lot more than his "prime" days. One can make an excuse for Calderon and say if he was younger he wouldve been fast enough o avoid that body shot. See, thats being a *****, just like some Rafa fans are being a ***** right now. I agree Juanma doesnt deserve FULL credit but def some.
I saw so much potential in him till after he fought the african fighter and almost got kod in the last round. Great fighters don't go through that early in their carreer PERIOD. Marquez was suppose to b a stepping stone 4 him. A natural smaller guy that built a name for himself but on his way down and he almost tkod juanma WTF??!! Arum knows this and he will milk him as much as he can before he feeds him to gamboa.
Dude, your boxing scene status is the same as your general knowledge in boxing = AMATEUR! If reat fighters dont go through tough fights early in their career than why did Pac - the p4p #1 - get KO'd and lost some tough fights early in his. There are countless great boxers who have losses or tuff near losses early in their career, you seriously said one of the stupidest things I have ever read anywhere with that one, congrats! They are the same height and weight the same, no 1 forced Marquez to take the fight, Juanma was not supposed to dispose of him in 1 round like a stepping stone - Rafa is not that type of chump - and he still got a TKO, which woulda been a KO had Rafa came out for the 9th round. Gamboa is going to try his stupid flurries and get KTFO against Lopez bc he has no chin either. Ya boy been dropped 6 times already and has like 11 less fights than Juanma with crazy poor opposition. Cant wait to make you look stupid in June 2011.
You can either open an account at one of the many online sportbooks or go to a casino and place a bet depending if the ones in your area have the odds up for the fight .
Thanks a lot.
Cotto aint shot............they just hatin.........
I Dont think Cotto is shot, but the question is, how much doest he have left against LIVE dogs? He hasn't had the chance OR skill to show it lately - Margarito may have cheated bc as he said in the Pac Face Off, he doesnt know if he used the hand wraps before the Mosely fight. That, along with other things, tells me he most likely he used em on Cotto. Clottey fight - headbutt cut Cotto crazy he fought with one eye for most of the fight & he didn't quit but he backed up a lot, but its hard to blame him with that big cut and Clottey's hard shots. Jennings was weak - so he gets no credit, same thing with foreman - Haters call him the one legged, feather fisted Jew, so Cotto gets NOOO credit for that win even tho he boxed the boxer out. For the Pac fight he clearly couldn't handle the skill and so people actually have a lot of reasons to think Cotto is shot - We have not seen him pound on a live, prime, hard hitting fighter in years - and the best recent memories of his performances were the fights he lost - fair or not. I feel bad for the guy, hopefull we can see him fight Angulo and some other tough Champs and win.
you sound like a rican, go pluck your eyebrows.
Did you not see the other thread about the eyebrows? LOL there are countless Mexicans who do it too, just open your eyes and wipe the hate off your face. Marg really made Mosely get on his knees huh? You going to forgive him for that fight? Cotto took a knee vs plaster Marg got ktfo by an old man LMAOOO. Hes going to get the **** beat out if him by Pac and you're going to crawl back into your hole so enjoy the hype before the fall cuz this wont last long.
won't happen. That puto rican juwanna lopez will hide behind his daddy Arum and continue fighting shopworn, past their prime fighters exactly like he'll be doing this Saturday.
Damn you the mean Puerto Rican Hater bro, your pics, your sig, your comments, wowwww LMAO what did we ever do to you, **** your girlfriend?
TS is a heartless PR hater, its sad to see how low a Mexican will go with his little win over a Rican, which is largely disputed by Non mexicans and Boxing analysta around the world --- keep hyping up Margs win over Cotto its the only thing you have to hold on to I know its sad, Marg aint **** and he got beat so bad you want to bring **** up about the Cotto fight instead of what just happened Sat you sad mofuka I almost feel bad for retards like you but you can honestly eat a dik and die, you should be ashamed to be Mexican or even human. You shame latinos everywhere with **** threads like this targeting family I bet you're real proud of yaself cornball. Go drink piss with Marquez and the rest of your countrymen. See if it helps the next time you get beat up by a Rican.
TS is so caught up in his own Black Race is the best BS he cant see manny will Fuk those Black dudes up neway. Cornball. No1 let alone any Black dude will give manny comp but Mayweather hes the only one.
Another Rican bites the dust this year. :lol1:
LMAO if we count all the Mexicants who bit the dust this year NSB would be filled with threads. This Rican was never hyped by anybody I forgot he even fought, just another bum, like the countless bums coming out of Mexico hahaha.
Really, thought he would have lost against Foreman, without the accident...Think again
Really? You smoking some good **** there man. Cotto lose 1 round, 4, thats it. Judges had it 79-73, 79-73, and 78-74 all for Cotto. Hbo commentators all had the same score. He boxed Foreman, "the boxer", silly and that accident just brought the KO about faster. He was going to win regardless, decision or maybe later KO. Anybody can see that, or did you just watch it with the hate already built inside? Sigh, that might explain it.