Only a casual who’s been following boxing for 2 years would not refer to GGG as undisputed champion. He holds all major belts, the WBO which has only very recently started to count for something is a technicality and not so much in the eyes of a true fan the missing piece to the “undisputed” title. I’ve been boxing for almost 15 years, every single fighter, trainer & true fan in every gym I’ve been to refers to a guy who has the wbc,wba,IBF belts as undisputed champion.
Only a jealous hater would try that hard to argue otherwise.
The are dozens & dozens of fighters who were undisputed without the WBO title. Again, only a little weasel would really mention the WBO belt. How many fighters have been undisputed without it vs with it? About 50-1 is the answer.
Come on dude that’s like arguing doing 51 in a 50 is speeding...
He has every belt except for the one of least significance that only until VERY recent times counted for something.
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Calling people casual dick riders and he doesn't even know what undisputed is. :dunce::rofl:
Boy your about to get HUMILIATED...
Undisputed means all the MAIN belts of the Division (WBC,WBA,IBF) are yours. IBO and WBO are not as highly regarded as the 3 aforementioned...Historically and in even modern times a fighter who has the wbc,wba & IBF titles is considered the “unified” or “undisputed champion of the world”...
Examples of recent fighters who were considered “undisputed champion” and did NOT have the wbo belt of that division...
Zab Judah
Winky Wright
Pernell Whitaker
Kostya Tsyzu
Roy Jones Jr.
O’neil Bell
James buster Douglas
Evander Holyfield
Riddick Bowe
Lennox Lewis
ALL THOSE FIGHTERS WERE RECOGNIZED AS UNDISPUTED CHAMPION AND DID *NOT* HAVE THE WBO OR IBO BELTS.
Your such a clown, what an embarrassment this must be for you..attempting to imply I’m wrong and don’t know what I’m talking about only to be sh1t on with facts and proof that I AM RIGHT and YOU ARE WRONG.I EVEN PROVIDED A LINK SHOWING YOU DONT KNOW SH1T LMAO. BAHAHAHAHA!
Here is the link to a fantastic Wikipedia article that lists EVERY undisputed champion in history in EVERY weight class including the DATE they become recognized as undisputed champions & exactly what belts they had at the time.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_undisputed_boxing_champions
Next time you try and prove someone wrong, make sure you know what your talking about that way you don’t proved wrong in a humiliating manner. You should delete your account now!
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GGG will get exposed the minute he moves up in weight
350-5 amateur record including an Olympic medal...Currently holds an undefeated record and has the WBC,WBA,IBF, & IBO middleweight belts...according to you he should relinquish 4 titles and move up in weight?? He barely weighs over 170 fight night, why the hell would he move up to 168 where the average boxer is cutting 10-15 pounds to make weight? He would be 10 pounds smaller than virtually the entire division. Canelo weighs 175+ fight night, but GGG is the one who should move up??? Lol you casuals kill me!
You look stupid. WBO is now considered a major ORG, to be undisputed the WBO belt is required. Golovkin isn't even considered lineal either. How the **** can you be undisputed and never even been lineal? :dunce: :rofl:
Sorry bro just listed 10 modern day champions that were undisputed with no WBO belt.
I provided a link to LOL
Please send me a link to the official rule book of boxing where it says you need WBO to be considered undisputed...
Again, historically and in modern times undisputed is WBC,WBA,IBF championships.
I listed 10 fighters with undisputed status without a WBO belt. Good job trying to save face... and btw are you a woman? I notice you argue a lot (even when wrong) and use a lot of emojis..sounds like a b1tch to me!
Do you even box??? Gtfoh.
Casual.
Darchinyan held the WBA, WBC, IBF titles in 2008/2009. Where's he on the list? Shit, where's Golovkin on the list if he's undisputed? :dunce::lol1:
Only a casual who’s been following boxing for 2 years would not refer to GGG as undisputed champion. He holds all major belts, the WBO which has only very recently started to count for something is a technicality and not so much in the eyes of a true fan the missing piece to the “undisputed” title. I’ve been boxing for almost 15 years, every single fighter, trainer & true fan in every gym I’ve been to refers to a guy who has the wbc,wba,IBF belts as undisputed champion.
Only a jealous hater would try that hard to argue otherwise.
The are dozens & dozens of fighters who were undisputed without the WBO title. Again, only a little weasel would really mention the WBO belt.
Well he’s got the WBC, WBA, IBF & IBO belts so I think he beat someone... is this all NSB is??? A bunch of casual d1ck riders that have never actually boxed and litterally don’t know a thing about boxing? My god these threads are beyond ridiculous. The dudes an Olympic medalist and currently the undefeated, undisputed champion of the world... a bum in the eyes of these “expert” NSB posters who have never done more than watch YouTube to get their boxing knowledge.
I know we still have a lot of boxing left, but anyone think this will be knock out of the year? Does this get less recognition since he knocked out a walking punching bag?
Prior to this fight, poster "War Mikey" ran his mouth about how Rios was going to win and Danny was going to get stopped. I told him to put his money where his mouth is and take a ban bet. If Danny loses I'll go, if Rios loses, he goes. He accepts, Rios loses, and yet War Mikey is still here.
Lol not only does he not honor the bet and is not a man of his word, but the child went ahead and deleted his post of him accepting the bet, pathetic.
Where are the mods at to ban this loud mouth don't know what the f he's talking about punk. It's one thing to root for your boxer, but this dude talks so much shi* and then when he puts his money where his mouth is, not only doesn't honor it but gets rid of the evidence lmao.
Anyways, Danny 2018 Knock out of the year front runner lol
Danny after the fight asked someone in his corner “how bad is my face?”...the guy said something than gave Danny a huge hat he pulled over his face to hide his injuries, obviously embarrassed that someone he was suppose to destroy ****ed his face up. (Mauricio Herrera style LOL)
Rios is a good 5-7 years past his prime, completely shot & severely brain damaged and despite all that still gave Danny hell for 9 rounds. That is a L for Danny in my books.
Ko of the year? Good one. Quality of opponent matters.
Prime Rios at 140 imo beats Garcia based on what we saw this weekend.
lol.
So you created this thread to what? down play lomachenkos lost?
Salido is a hard mother****er to beat, stop looking at the lost on lomachenko record like a black eye etc and look at it for what it is he got beat by the bigger, stronger, more experience, and hard to beat salido.
Lomachenko lost to salido deal with it.
Alot of fighters would lose to salido in their second fight.
But he missed weight, outweighed him 15 pounds, fouled him 100 times and still almost got knocked out in the 12th.
Anyone who gives Salido ANY credit, and doesn’t COMPLETELY excuse Lomachenko for losing under those circumstances is either
A) A mikey Garcia fan
B) a mexican
C) or a casual
GGG could fight Jacobs or Derevyanchenko or look weak himself
Canelo never, Ever steps in the ring with Jacobs lol
He’s a glorified bum. Dehydrates 20 pounds to have a massive size advantage over hand picked opponents to maximize profits and minimize risk. How the true Mexicans support him I’ll never understand
If Jack can survive an early on slaught from Stevenson he'll win and possibly stop him, but DeGale dropped him in the first and Edwards stopped him in the first, but I'm rooting for him 100%, #TeamJack
A lot of guys beat Stevenson on paper, then a straight left lands. I wanna say jack beats Stevenson but I have a feeling when (not if) that straight left hand lands jack goes down. Would definitely root for him, but that Stevenson left is deadly.
Spence could beat him on brute force and aggressiveness. Floyd’s still too technical to lose to Thurman and Crawford. He could hop out of a casket and beat those dudes.
A couple years ago I’d agree but Crawford is ENORMOUS....
He rehydrated from 140 to 160 his last fight... he’d probably come in a 147 fight weighing 165ish....long reach, fast, strong, good boxer, aggressive.... I’d take him over Floyd unless Floyd ran all night potshotting (which he probably would).
Thurman same thing, to big, to strong, to aggressive... they’d force Floyd to really fight. Again, if Floyd is willing to disgrace himself and literally refuse to engage, run, potshot yea he could maybe win a horrible decision, but if he actually fights i think the top guys at 147 are all to big, strong & aggressive for Floyd.
He’d beat guys like Porter & Garcia imo though. Not the A class of the division though.
You posted this before. Walking around weights are totally meaningless because some boxers walk around very fat while others like Mayweather keep their weight down. Mayweather has probably never weighed 165 pounds in his life. Does this mean Crawford is a 12 pound or more bigger boxer than Mayweather? I doubt it. Crawford is a welterweight now and that is a good weight class for him.
Walk around weight is WHAT THAT PARTICULAR fighter weighs when not training for a fight. What/how they eat is irrelevant. Floyd walks around at about 150ish... Crawford, when not training, stepped on a scale and weighed 177 pounds. Not hard to understand.
I don't doubt Peterson either he is very tough and rugged and will meet Spence in the middle of the ring BUT I think Spence will out dog him only because I think he holds the power advantage.
I’d be surprised if Peterson wins 1 round. I expect a TKO around round 6. Peterson does not have the size, power, or skills (going backwards) to compete with Spence.
Imo Spence is WAY superior to Peterson, and he’ll walk him down ripping him to the head and body. Peterson tough and has great heart, a great story, but Spence is a shark right now and I really think this fight is a complete mismatch.
broner gonna take another L.
he needs to stay away from dudes who have grit and determination and are volume punchers all of which omar is.
Prime, active Omar gives Adrien trouble, but he’s been way to inactive. That and the natural size difference will be to much, Broner by late tko.
Actually yes.
Both one dimensional.
Both lack ring IQ.
Both have talent but big holes in their game.
Both have poor feet.
And they have a similar style aswell.
Toney is obviously better than Broner but yes the similarities are there.
James Toney was 1 dimensional? James Toney lacked ring iq? James Toney had bad footwork?
Bro do u even know what boxing is? In terms of skill James Toney is one of the greatest middleweights and boxers of all time.
Freddie Roach said he’s the most skillful fighter he ever trained.
He could box, he could brawl, he could fight on the inside or the outside... he had speed, power, tremendous heart, an iron chin...
Calling Toney 1 dimensional is like calling Lomachenko 1 dimensional... doesn’t make sense.
Sorry I can't get the image to post but I follow TC on IG and he posted a pic of himself on the scale weighing 177lbs. Makes even more sense that he moved up. I recall Spence saying he walks around at about 180lbs.
He comes in 160 for fights at 140. He is bigger then Andre Berto and most welterweights.
Don’t need to see a pic on Instagram to know that.
ain't no damn way.
omar is specifically the type of fighter broner needs to stay away from. AB cannot handle no nonsense volume punchers with great chins.
Are you deliberately ignoring the fact he’s fought ONE time in last 2 years? Again prime, in shape, fighting regularly yea I like Omar in that fight. But his conditioning has been a question his last several fights, and he has not been active enough. He’s also naturally considerably smaller then broner.
aaAbsolutely not true ..Delahoya does NOT even like cocaine , he only like how smells .
Oh ok thanks for clarifying!
Wait... why does he put a bit on his finger tip and rub it on his gums after each “smell”?
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That picture looks like your mother having trouble keeping my load down.
Manny is listed at 5’6 1/2...
Floyd is listed at 5’8...
That’s 1.5 inches between them which was my original comment, which you claimed was laughable and obviously wrong (please explain how)
Conor mcgregor is 5’9...
Conor towers over Floyd so much Floyd actually wore high heeled shoes to the next press conference (and got called out for it) but you just said Floyd was 5’8 1/2???? Conor towered over him just because of half an inch? Floyd wore custom high soul shoes for half an inch?
Go look at any face off between them they are within 1-1.5 inches of each other. Did you actually just imply Floyd is 2+ inches at least bigger then manny? Do you even know what boxing is? Do you know what 2 inches looks like? I’ll help you... undo your pants and look down casual.
http://m.zimbio.com/pictures/M-GFM0nibwu/Floyd+Mayweather+v+Manny+Pacquiao+Press+Conference/eKiiLKNa4Oh
Click on that link and tell me Floyd is 2 inches taller than Manny.
Autistic retard.
The difference between 5’8 and 5’6 1/2 is 1.5 inches. My original comment. Get off my d1ck.
Now Floyd fanboys are preparing excuses in advance should Loma win, Pac fans never made excuses about size like the Rigo/Floyd crew is currently, despite Pac clearly being smaller than Floyd.
Are you retarded? Floyd and pac, fully hydrated, are within 3-5 pounds of each other and maybe 1-1.5 inches difference in height. Wtf are you talking about you casual?
Get in close, fight on his chest. He don't like getting roughed up. Hit him low, use elbows and forearms, push him back
Don't give him the space to get his punches off, overhand hooks, out pressure him and put him on the back foot.
A fighter would need the strength and weight to push him back, the stamina to throw a 1000 punches a fight and have KO power in each hand
Spence is to dam big. Can’t nobody at 147 do that. Dude is blistering sharp, tremendous ring iq, and a massive welterweight... don’t see anybody at 147 doing anything like that to him. Even at 154 I don’t think many guys could do that.
How many are on Youtube?
Including footage of him fighting in documentaries on him enough to see he’d spark Wlad, THE SAME WAY ROSS PURITY DID, AND THE SAME WAY CORRIE SANDERS AND LAMON BREWSTER DID.
Are you still arguing that Ross Purity could accomplish something in the ring that Jack Johnson and Sonny Liston could not? Do you even know what boxing is?
Wlad didn't fold against Joshua ..........
He have never been knocked out cold, he keep getting back up. His courage and heart is undisputed.
P4P you can make a list of probably 25 guys more skilled than Tyson. Heavyweights are not as skilled as the lower weights with the exception of maybe Ali.
I do not believe, if you took the focused, dedicated, cus d’amato/Kevin Rooney trained tyson of 1985-88 and nothing beyond 1988 that you could find 25 other heavyweights that were that skilled. Did he ultimately have a great career? No not really, but that tyson from 1985-88 was the definition of skill. Head movement, footwork, speed,power,chin,heart etc..
Now back to Wlad... you realize a journeyman named Ross Purity knocked him out right? Than a couple nobodies named Lamon Brewster & Corrie Sanders.
Wlad has ZERO heart. Guys with heart protest EVERY stoppage, they YELL and SCREAM at the referee begging for more. They BEG they’re corner not to stop it... do me a favour and link me 1 clip of Wlad jumping around, yelling, screaming begging the ref and his corner to let it continue... according to you he’s never been out cold meaning you should be sending me clips of him in the Joshua, sanders, brewster and Purrity fights... if he’s not yelling, screaming, running around begging the ref and his corner to continue LIKE VITALI DID WHEN FIGHT WITH LEWIS WAS STOPPED THEN HE HAS NO HEART. That’s heart. Hurt, covered in blood, SCREAMING for more. Trust me bro, I’ve seen all the above mentioned fights and NOT 1 TIME DID WLAD YELL, SCREAM, PROTEST AND RUN AROUND BEGGING FOR MORE.
He had zero heart, he’d sit there and make excuses.
How many Jack Johnson fights have you seen?
How many Sonny Listen fights?
Every single one on YouTube. And its Liston not “listen”.
And if Corrie Sanders & Lamon Brewster can knock him out and TYSON FURY can outbox him, I can say with absolute certainty that Liston & Johnson would have done the same. Wlad had 0 heart & no chin...
2 prerequisites of fighting in the heavyweight division.
Effectively you are arguing lamon brewster, Corrie Sanders & tyson fury are better then Jack Johnson and Sonny Liston. Please stop, you are disrespecting the sport.
I disagree! Right now, it's totally ridiculous to compare a heavyweight with a complete career record like Lennox Lewis to someone like Anthony Joshua who has only started competing against the top level boxers in the heavyweight division. However, if we compare them with the same level of experience at the same age and with similar number of bouts, Joshua looks more impressive.
You can keep being dishonest and / or deluded but old boxers in the eyes of one's nostalgic glasses aren't that much, if at all better than some of the best current boxers. Most are inferior anyway.
AJ who was stopped in the amateurs??? AJ who was dropped by a 40+ Year old Wlad??? AJ that was rocked and out on his feet from DILLAN WHYTE???
That’s funny!
Be realistic. Lennox was an animal, A LION, legendary top 5 heavyweight of all time great. I like Joshua, but if you think the Joshua that fought Wlad would beat the mid to late 90’s Lennox Lewis you’re a clown. The Lennox that was in trouble against Vitali would ko Joshua. Prime Lennox does the same, just twice as easy.
Get outta here we that bull****.
Match up Lewis against *almost* ANY heavyweight in ANY era
and you see Lewis is superior. Lewis would have given guys like Ali and Holmes all they can handle... AJ is struggling with headgear in the amateurs and getting rocked and dropped by guys like Wlad and Dillon Whyte.
LOOOOOOOOOL Spence faster and better iq than Crawford?
Crawford is 100% faster and Spence is more intelligent based off what. To be frank theres nothing particular intelligent about his style. Very meticulous and effective but intelligent? Nope
Are you actually claiming you think Crawford is the superior boxer to Spence? That’s like saying Pacquiao is better then Floyd.. simply not true.
Crawford is awesome, but Spence is unreal. AND HES BIGGER then Crawford. Imagine if Spence fought all he guys Crawford fought, literally would have a 100% ko rate and probably not fight more than 5-6 rounds against any of them. Now imagine Crawford fights Spence’s Opponents (he would beat *Most*) but imo would not beat Kell Brook, would not have stopped Peterson and algieri in 7 & 5 rounds like Spence, and would not allegedly **** up floyd in sparring so bad he was not asked to return & would not be able to compete in sparring with the likes of Jermell Charlo like Spence does. Again, Crawford is outstanding, but Spence is better and imo beats him 99/100 times they fight.