A comprehensive game plan to stop spence?????

So you only see Bud as any challenge to Spence in the next 5 years? Do you think Spence will fight Josh Kelly? His only challenge as of right now is bud.......that's the only fight me and the guys here are un sure of........... Is spence beats bud next year.....and john become the no1 contender i could see this happening as soon as late 2019..........spence ain't gonna duck kelly that's for sure...he ain't DUCKING NOBODY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He looks good man....no question, but I'm not sure i see enough potential talent in him to be able to best Bud and spence in their prime lol EDIT: MY bad i see your from the UK, I understand where your coming from now......Carry on mate, the kid looks good..... So you only see Bud as any challenge to Spence in the next 5 years? Do you think Spence will fight Josh Kelly?

He's not that difficult to beat at all. He's a solid fighter and he hasn't fought a solid opponent yet. Kell Brook was coming off surgical face reconstruction and coming back down 2 weight classes after going up 2. Tell me that's the same Brook that fought Porter????? Hah.... And you say, "Hey BJL, hey man, what's it matter, bro?". I'll tell you, bro, don't sweat it. People have a tendency to ride waves when they come in and get caught in the rush thinking "THIS IS THE BEST WAVE EVER OMGGG". I'm glad fans are enjoying it - Spence is very fun to watch - but people also get caught up in the hype and can't properly evaluate what they're seeing. Same thing happened with Pacquiao, Golovkin, Kovalev, Broner, etc. These are all solid fighters, but at one point in time posters on here would have others believe those guys would KTFO SRR or Duran or Ali or SRL or Hagler, etc. Golovkin looked ordinary against Jacobs and Canelo, two solid B or B+ level guys. And he looked ordinary despite being touted (by some on this very forum) as the Greatest MW of all time (seriously those threads existed lmfao). When Spence fights an equally talented guy you'll see what I mean. Crawford is the only guy at 147 who is equally talented. The rest are C+, B-, or B level fighters. And to beat Spence? Responsible defense, reliable chin, strong/effective counter-punching, and excellent stamina. JMM, for example, would destroy Spence if their ages and weights were the same. bwahahahahahaha jmm would beat spence hahahahaha that may be the funniest comment ive seen on here. hahahaha. i cant stop laughing.. hahaha. spence fought a world champion in algeri, a 2 time world champ in peterson, a world champ who most considered the best ww in the division in brook. If world champions are b level fighters, then i guess ali, srr, joe louis are the only A fighters of all time in your book. brook had 8 months between his fight with ggg and spence. so using a weight argument has no bearing, he was still undefeated at ww when he fought spence. ill make u a sig bet right now.. ill take spence u take crawford. do we have a deal?

Yes, but his kid will be in his prime. He looks good man....no question, but I'm not sure i see enough potential talent in him to be able to best Bud and spence in their prime lol EDIT: MY bad i see your from the UK, I understand where your coming from now......Carry on mate, the kid looks good.....

LOL spence will only be 29 then.......and prolly be even better.... Yes, but his kid will be in his prime.

This has been a great thread, very much quality info in here, I seen a few people say push him back and mak him fight off the back foot......if you can do it that would be a great plan.....but that dude is super strong.....

In two years time this guy will be knocking on Spence's Door. Will Spence answer be able to deal with time? LOL spence will only be 29 then.......and prolly be even better....

someone like paul williams?

He has enough flaws that he can be beat by lots of different styles, but definitely by a great to elite fighter. He's not great technically and laterally and would lose against someone with great mobility. Someone like BJS would give him trouble. He's alright fighting inside but it is not a master. If you get a rugged bulldog type, or Ward type of inside fighter, he wont be able to set up and wont get comfortable and will end up in trouble. A very active fighter with long reach would trouble him a lot. And of course, someone who has the power to hurt him easily would make him a much more cautious fighter. Spence has not fought someone with world class power and technique. Shrink down Danny Jacobs to a WW, and that dude will give Spence fits.

I honestly whink he would have fvcked Maidana up, but I see what you mean Would not have surprised me. I think Maidana doesn't have the power to capitalize on Spence's flaws.

I would have said Maidana in his best dayz (Broner fight, first Floyd fight) I honestly whink he would have fvcked Maidana up, but I see what you mean

What fighter can implement that game plan is all I asked I would have said Maidana in his best dayz (Broner fight, first Floyd fight)

Boxing experts, what would be your plan based off of what you have seen? If you had a hot young prospect with great attributes????? Spence is open for right hands and especially right hooks. I would look for a Salido type approach of looping shots. You need to start early so Spence doesn't get his offense going. Start strong, right hooks, get on the bike, and hit that body. Double jab, right hook over the top, left and right uppercuts to the body, jab out. I think that combo gives him fits.

WTF??? That's not the sudject at all. The debate is "wich game plan/style beat Spence", not "wich current fighter beat him". Once again, your nutthuggerism makes you answer bad Larry. I swear you sound like Spence's GF. Give it up a bit bro. You're better than that and I MEAN IT. What fighter can implement that game plan is all I asked

Get in close, fight on his chest. He don't like getting roughed up. Hit him low, use elbows and forearms, push him back Don't give him the space to get his punches off, overhand hooks, out pressure him and put him on the back foot. A fighter would need the strength and weight to push him back, the stamina to throw a 1000 punches a fight and have KO power in each hand bad strategy imo, that plays into his strengths. even margarito would still find him in a firefight doing this, he has more activity but spence has more power to equalize that. Lateral movement so he can't plant his feet. Mix up punches behind the jab...uppercuts, hooks, etc. Triple up that jab in his face while stepping in and backing him up. Keep him off balance and don't let him get set. I would work on slipping and ducking his punches and countering every time he throws a punch. All easier said than done, but I definitely would not stand in front of him flat-footed. Brook was able to land well on Soence. He just didn't have the defense to overcome his power. Do what Brook did offensively but work on slipping and ducking punches better. This sounds like the best. Using movement to keep him from getting set will slow him down and when the punches do come they wont be at full power. This is basically how mayweather would fight him. Low jabs to the stomach as well will keep him from advancing and keep him where you want in the ring.

Box the kid and tie him up on the inside, while tying him up use your elbows, forearms, knees and hit him on the hip like Salido did with Lomachenko so that he resorts to doing something else, offset his rhythm with the jab and steal rounds by shoe shining flashy combinations at the end of each round and stay on the move. He doesn't react well when too many punches are thrown at him and when the opponent feints and then throws, especially the looping right hand, he also doesn't cut off the ring too well and he doesn't move his head enough going in. Avoid inside fighting (punch for punch body to body) and being caught on the ropes as much as possible. Brook did very well against him but he was broken down, had he had a tiny little bit more in him he would've won the fight. It doesn't have to be the most skilled fighter in the world but he should definitely be physically and mentally tough enough to stick to that game plan and he cannot be naturally smaller than Spence. A lot of people are talking about backing him up and fighting him on the inside, WORNG PLAN! You can apply that to a midrange powerpuncher like GGG or Kovalev, Spence is an inside fighter by nature and he's very ordinary on the outside and just good enough midrange. On the inside you have to be naturally a lot bigger than him to force him to resort to doing something else other than fighting on the inside and it ain't gonna be easy.

Get in close, fight on his chest. He don't like getting roughed up. Hit him low, use elbows and forearms, push him back Don't give him the space to get his punches off, overhand hooks, out pressure him and put him on the back foot. A fighter would need the strength and weight to push him back, the stamina to throw a 1000 punches a fight and have KO power in each hand lmao basically.

Boxing experts, what would be your plan based off of what you have seen? If you had a hot young prospect with great attributes????? Canelo style could be effective, at 154 a fight would have been interesting. Now, Canelo can gass out sometimes wich wouldn't be a great idea vs Spence. Spence is repetitive so Nelo would duck most of his punches and land counters in the mix. I know I'm bringing up a bigger guy, but I bringing him up because of his style.

what current fighter can do this? WTF??? That's not the sudject at all. The debate is "wich game plan/style beat Spence", not "wich current fighter beat him". Once again, your nutthuggerism makes you answer bad Larry. I swear you sound like Spence's GF. Give it up a bit bro. You're better than that and I MEAN IT.

Boxing experts, what would be your plan based off of what you have seen? If you had a hot young prospect with great attributes????? Canelo style could be effective, at 154 a focused Canelo at would have probably beaten him. Now, Canelo can gass out sometimes wich wouldn't be a great idea vs Spence. Spence is repetitive so Nelo would duck most of his punches and land counters in the mix. I know I'm bringing up a bigger guy, but I bringing him up because of his style.