Is Adrien Broner the modern day James Toney?

Broner's lack of discipline outside the ring plays a big role in his performance in the ring yea...and the part about him thinking he's better than he actually is. idk what it is about boxing fans that we like to say "if this guy did this, then he'd be that" etc. these guys are competing at an elite level...at some point a guy finds out he's simply just not as good as other top fighters. we seem to readily accept it with journeyman level fighters, but not with fighters who we though had promise. zab Judah is another one that comes to mind. for years his apologists would blame other factors, when the fact is, he just wasn't quite at the level of the very best. if he was, he woulda been, and there'd be no need for the excuses. people act like discipline and consistency aren't part of fighting or something....like if a guy can look sharp for 3-4 rounds, there must be some other reason he couldn't reach the pinnacle of the sport. same with kovalev blaming his conditioning for his performances against ward. it seemed to work fine for all his other fights...in reality he just came up against a guy who could match him and push him to hit that next gear he probably didn't have.

You just prove my point with this, you should actually try watching his fights and judging for yourself instead of being one of the sheep who has no opinion of their own. I've seen 80% of his fights. Broner been shrinking man. Broner started at 135 which is small for him. Knocked out Litzau at 130, I mean who goes down in weight after turning pro? Standard operating procedure is to move forward, not backward. Even at 135, Gavin Reese was like Shirefolk lmao. http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/02/15/article-2279185-179C6873000005DC-867_634x422.jpg Fighters usually find a home 2 weight classes above their debut and that puts him at 147. Fool got ran out of 147 super fast. Toney on the other hand was a smaller MW who ended up at HW and did great work along the way. Broner never beat anybody half as good as Nunn.

It's fair to say you're wrong, miserably wrong and for all intents and purposes, YDKSAB. Keep it moving sonny, you're cramping my style. You just prove my point with this, you should actually try watching his fights and judging for yourself instead of being one of the sheep who has no opinion of their own.

Broner doesn't have a great skill set though. He has great natural talent. Speed, reflexes, power, quickness. He loses because he lacks technical proficiency needed at the highest level of the sport.

You're obviously just an impressionable kid who believes what they're told instead of actually looking for things by itself. I doubt you've watched much of James. It's fair to say you're wrong, miserably wrong and for all intents and purposes, YDKSAB. Keep it moving sonny, you're cramping my style.

are you okay larry???????

I was like this dude is retarded and then I look at your sig and see your p4p list and I'm like, this dude is definitely retarded! You're obviously just an impressionable kid who believes what they're told instead of actually looking for things by itself. I doubt you've watched much of James.

I think James Toney is one of the most overrated fighters about, constantly gets pushed into a category which places him above legitimate champions. Even with me thinking that there is no way do I think him and Broner are similar in terms of skillset, Toney is clearly more talented, the only relatable thing is both of them are thug idiots who lack the discipline to their boxing career. I was like this dude is retarded and then I look at your sig and see your p4p list and I'm like, this dude is definitely retarded!

I think James Toney is one of the most overrated fighters about, constantly gets pushed into a category which places him above legitimate champions. Even with me thinking that there is no way do I think him and Broner are similar in terms of skillset, Toney is clearly more talented, the only relatable thing is both of them are thug idiots who lack the discipline to their boxing career.

Well yeah I commend Toney for taking on all comers. It's not "dissing" it is objectively looking at his career. Don't like it? Refute it or don't respond. the point is, its a diss to even try to say toney and broner fight anything alike, the even bigger point is, toney with his skillset has risen far higher and beaten far better guys than broner...

I think Broner's more like Judah 2.0. I think you got that backwords.Broner no where near what Judah did imo.

Good skill set, but lacks discipline and never truly made it to the elite level due to their lack of discipline?/ Losses all their big fights but are due to beat atleast a few top guys after awhile? whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat I'm no fan of Toney but Broner my friend is NO Toney

Larry Einstein Its ironick: People question Larry for this thread and look... People came here to fight and prove how ridiculous this comparison was and what happened!!?? Oh s hit! call the mods!!! we got a discussion about boxing and the finer points of James Toney's career breaking out!! :lol1: maybe Larry had something up his sleeve after all Lets talk Broner for a bit shall we? . Big problem that may be relevant: One thing that got Broner in a lot of trouble is that he could not fight up. Broner, Like Toney actually has a decent beard and can take the shot, and, it can be argued that his power carried up to a degree, but it was not enough to allow him to carry up and get through the guys who could fight like Porter and Madianna. Toney could fight up, Broner could not. A beard and a punch is not enough... Not in the big leagues.

.........no man. Broner is unmotivated, out of shape Toney on his worst day. At his best, Toney could beat anyone. Broner's not even in the same league.

RIP Joe Rein. A legend. Indeed. Amen Indeed.

Well again that's fair enough I don't disagree with that. Just stating your critique applies for both fighters. Sure and fair point. I don't find it hard to criticize Toney either, I just don't think Broner is at his level.

he's always foolish at one time I thought he was a larry alt lol He really does come off as one.

he's always foolish at one time I thought he was a larry alt lol That would be because you have the IQ of a plank of wood mate :lol1:

dan, you look foolish when you talk about james toney. FFS you just said comparing him to adrien broner was appropriate. he's always foolish at one time I thought he was a larry alt lol

i see how you try to diss james toney...let me tell you something...you cats should wish there was more james toneys in boxing...dude called out everybody who put on gloves, even when he reached the top when he was p4p numero uno...he could have stalled roy jones out but just was not his style...the uk boys and nobody was safe with lights out... you got these half a fighters today...they get a paper belt and they on some cherrypicking floyd s**t (your boy) talking about, oh, they not bringing enough to the table, oh they gotta prove themselves, oh they gotta take this special test to fight me...real b**ch made sucker s**t....with a bunch of emotional fanboys running behind them, ready to make a ton of excuses for them.... so yeah don't even waste time trying to put broner and toney in the same basket cause it ain't happening.... Well yeah I commend Toney for taking on all comers. It's not "dissing" it is objectively looking at his career. Don't like it? Refute it or don't respond.