Step back blind wth the lead hand throw the right to the body get out, again let him come to u, step back blind with the lead hand, throw the right to the body then out, 3rd time u let him come in what does he expect? a right to the body, what does Ray throw? feint with the lead hand then throw THE BEST LEFT HOOK EVER THROWN! U out sucka!
I think it's a terrible fight and i think the WBC should be banned as an organization if they would sanction that fight despite Manny not fighting for over 4 years with his last win being 6 years ago, and putting him ahead of all the other contenders that are just waiting for a chance. Also the risk of injury for Manny is now significant and the probability that he wouldn't be able to compete with Barrios is also significant. So it's an Ali vs Berbick type situation all over again. It should never happen, there must be other ways to make money for Manny using his name and legacy other than fighting for a title at 46 after such a layoff.
These kids need to step up and start facing garekeepers, former champs and top 10 contenders already and stop talking too much. With that level of opposition they're facing right now i don't think they should be talking that much.
With the amount of struggling I saw Ryan Garcia have against D level opponents though I can't help but think that his own team doesn't believe he's ready for anyone with pulse and if that's the case, why all the trash talk? these fights aren't happening and these beefs get expired and rotten after a while. These kids should focus a lot more on their craft and a lot less on social media right now, they're definitely not on that level yet.
Usyk's strategy wasn't to "see" what Bellew was doing for 5 rounds, he was trying to fight his normal fight but he couldn't land and was getting countered so he just put pressure with his hands up and waited for Bellew to gas out which he did before in a number of fights.
It's not about just observing and adjusting, it's also about taking advantage of your opponent's weaknesses like stamina. A fighter who can stick to that without panicking despite losing rounds after rounds is indeed a mentally tough fighter who can mentally deal with anybody, very dangerous characteristic in any pro fighter.
Ward has no business fighting at cruiserweight and certainly not against Usyk, Ward can't outbox Usyk for 6 rounds or more without getting hurt in the process. His best bet is to go to what he can do best and try to rough house and maul Usyk, he's the best at that but for that he must be fighting someone his size or smaller, I think Usyk is just way too big amd if Ward tried to rough him up plus the extra weight he's gonna gas himself out. Plus there's not really a lot of money there compared to the Bellew fight.
I thought Adrien fought a very good fight early on, he caught Manny with some very good counters and got him hesitating at some point, the problem is that Pacquiao adjusted and varied his attack and Broner didn't take advantage of the momentum he gained. He kept trying the exact same thing over and over untill it didn't work anymore.
They probably saw that the counter right hand was what won Floyd the fight against Manny and focused too much on it, Floyd however was using his jab very well and landed a couple of lead hooks off the jab that really confused Manny. That's the problem when you're not yourself and you rely too much on a game plan. That's the difference between an A and a B level fighters, the ability to adjust.
I also saw a lot of mental weakness from Adrien after the 7th round, he wasn't fighting anymore after he got caught and was on survival mode untill the last second of the fight, at least in his previous fights he'd let the fight slip away but then close strong, this time he didn't and that disappointed me a lot.
Ugly ass fight. I very much dislike watching Porter's fights and also listening to his dad in the build up. Porter should man up and fight Errol Spence. I think it would be a very dumb fight for Manny to take right now, there's no money there either. At least with Spence there will be money to be made and it will be a great fight.
My favorite current fighter without a questiom. True warrior spirit. I don't think Badou has a lot left in the tank, he had a great run though, a throwback fighter as can be in the current era of boxing. Utmost respect for the brother. Hopefully he's set financially and can retire when he wants to.
LOL at the title, I don't know how these fighters stay focused on the questions being aaked with that type of distraction in front of them. I had to rewatch that thing a couple of times.
Condition wise he also looked very good even late in the fight, he was still moving well and it was Pacquiao who was breathing heavily, and despite all that Pacquiao won the 2nd half of tge fight quite comfortably.
Politics control the sport, if anybody's in the way of this fight happening it's probably Al Haymon, 147 is the most lucrative division and he has almost all the fop guys, if his main guy loses to an outsider he loses a lot of potential inhouse fights and a lot of money as a result.
The inhouse fights should've already happened though, if Shawn Porter and Keith Thurman would've finally stepped up to fight Errol and Errol won, Errol wouldn't have anyone else to fight but Crawford, and it would be a much bigger fight.
I think he looked really good at the beginning but fought the wrong type of fight in the other half of the fight. When he was coming forward a bit and using his combos Lopez had no answers and Thurman was hurting him and landing at will, it made Lopez make mistakes too when Thurman turned defensive and that led to the KD. However instead of capitalizing he gradually started literally running and gave Lopez a lot of unnecessary confidence and that made the fight tougher than it should've been.
Sometimes the safest fight is an offensive fight, a guy as slow as Lopez who doesn't use angles, counterpunch and been hurt and knocked down and out several times you have to fight him as well as box him, can't just move excessively like that unless you're Whitaker or Mayweather. I wouldn't be worried if I was Thurman though, he definitely will benefit from the fight and he'll be better next time.
That kid is getting way too much publicity at a very young age and with not so extraordinary talent. I think that publicity might backfire drastically if he took a beating, his team probably knows that and they will try to milk that publicity and take safe fights as long as possible. Too bad he can't just develop normally and be completely focused on only improving.
Due to lack of testing at the time all fighters were using substances that would be considered illegal nowadays. It'd be hypocritical to ignore that fact if you were a fan of any of the fighters from the 80s. Pryor just happened to have an idiot trainer thay didn't pay attention. He KOed Arguello easier in the rematch with Emanuel Steward in his corner and with close surveillance.
Aaron Pryor is definitely one of my all time favorites to watch, one of the most exciting fighters of modern day boxing. Would've been great if the fight with Ray Leonard would've been made.
I don't hate MMA I just don't really like watching it. The top fighters have that white-trash attitude that just puts me off somehow. I also don't like the very poor punching technique and the blatant mistakes these fighters make.
There's a very long history to boxing as boxing was synonymous with prize fighting for longer than a century. That nostalgic feel that boxing delivers and seeing fighters follow in others footsteps and comparing fighters with past fighters are some of the things I love about boxing and MMA still has a lot of years to catch up in that field.
You can also get very close to perfection in boxing, the ways you can win or lose are limited compared to MMA, so in boxing it mostly comes down to quality and not physicality. I can go on and on but still I respect MMA.
Good power, decent speed for a heavyweight, however not durable when it comes to chin or stamina, one handed fighter that was kinda like a 1 trick pony. Tyson Fury outboxes him with ease and Wilder and Joshua would probably KO him early.
Looking good 10 weeks out, he gained a bit of muscle mass but not too much, now it's time to condition the heart and lungs to pump enough oxygen rich blood to those bigger muscles for 12 high intensity rounds. If he would've gained more lean muscle mass it would've made it harder on the lungs and heart but like this he looks fine. I like to see fighter gain weight at the right places though like on the shoulders and back, not necessarily on the arms since that just tires u out and limits your reach. We'll have to wait and see on fight night.
It might all come down to Mikey's durability, can he take the punishment as good as he's able to dish it out? can he avoid the punishment all together? will it be a combo of both like Ray Leonard vs Marvin Hagler? does he have enough dirty tricks up his sleeve to stall and steal rounds? I can't wait for that fight!
I think Wladimir should be ranked higher due to his longevity, he was the absolute best heavyweight in the world for a very long time. Wilder was one of the best l, but bever number 1, for a while and beat 1 credible opponent in his whole career so far.
With that being said I'd however always prefer watching Wilder despite his flaws because he brings excitement to the game. The game of boxing has been missing big punchers with heart like Deontay Wilder especially at heavyweight.
That guy Gvozdyk who fought Adonis Stevenson also seemed to have endless stamina, and he was taking a lot of shots from arguably the hardest puncher in the division.
It even seemed unreal to me and I remember asking whether this guy had undergone any drug testing and then I remembered that it was for the WBC title, so they were both theoretically randomly tested. No idea where they get that from.
I understand your feelings on the issue, but consider this: people die doing just about any profession, as unfortunate as that fact is. Would you stop going to convenience stores because clerks get shot and killed sometimes? I personally feel like boxing has come a long way in terms of safety and, while improvements can and should be made, boxing is a very safe sport but tragic events can and will happen in all areas of life.
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This.
Cops get shot all the time but are we going to ban cops? A friend of mine was an EMT until Saturday where he died in an accident. Of course, there will still be EMTs. Every sport is dangerous and life itself is dangerous. The fighters knows what they're getting into and well, these guys who keep fighting after 40 are all pretty crazy imo. You'd have to be.
Well that's true for the most part but dying while doing a job someone MUST do for the rest of us to be able to live is very different than dying trying to entertain people by punching and getting punched in the head for 12 long rounds.
Firemen can't just stop doing their job because millions would die if they do, so it's either a 1000 firemen die every year or 1000000 civilians. That's a whole different story, same for policemen and other dangerous profession that are absolutely needed. Boxing isn't a need, it's only a form of entertainment that if stopped, nobody would get seriously physically injured. These fighters make that decision as young kids and they dedicate themselves entirely, then when they want out they can't and have to fight way longer than physically reasonable.
I'm not gonna stop watching the sport but honestly this whole situation is making me reconsider whether it's worth it for me to be here on this forum, I've been pretty disgusted with the reaction of some of the posters on here.
Well that's another unrelated, but very valid point. Absolutely appalling behavior by some people here. Just schocking!
Fury had a lot of great monents when he was backing Wilder up and throwing fast combos. Wilder isn't really a counter puncher by nature and it's hard to counter a guy as rangy as Fury. Fury got hurt when he stayed there too long waiting for Wilder and his reflexes weren't fast enough for that moment.
I think if Fury stays focused and doesn't dwindle down again he can make the rematch a lot easier, he's gonna be in an even better shape, he's gonna be more confident in his skillls and stamina and he's gonna take it to Wilder a little more, if Fury would've had an experienced trainer he would've told him to utilize the last 30 second strategy like Ray Leonard and Holyfield, would've been able to win all rounds that way.
If everyone could be a defensive wizard and get rewarded for it then I'm sure they would, man. But just for a second imagine someone who's maybe a bit slower but throws with venom and who starts their career in Mexico - you think that ****'s gonna get them very far? You're talking about one of the elites of our time (who did in fact make his career as a far more offensive fighter) and comparing him to the day to day guys building their career.
No one wants to get damaged, but to make a career of it each fighter has to make the best of their natural attributes and talents and develop a style to maximise their chances of winning and that ain't the same for everyone.
We've seen fighters with all kinds of styles get seriously hurt in boxing. Wilfred Benitez and many others. you can't completely avoid getting hit, you can of course limit the number of times you get hit, but that's not the only factor, it also depends on how your brain is wired, some people can take a pounding and never suffer any long term effects, and some get permanently damaged unexpectedly after a couple of punches to the head. It's unperdictable and that's what makes it dangerous.