What would a win mean for Pacquiao?

I think it's a terrible fight and i think the WBC should be banned as an organization if they would sanction that fight despite Manny not fighting for over 4 years with his last win being 6 years ago, and putting him ahead of all the other contenders that are just waiting for a chance. Also the risk of injury for Manny is now significant and the probability that he wouldn't be able to compete with Barrios is also significant. So it's an Ali vs Berbick type situation all over again. It should never happen, there must be other ways to make money for Manny using his name and legacy other than fighting for a title at 46 after such a layoff. we'll see manny could be a 2 round fighter at this point

I think it's a terrible fight and i think the WBC should be banned as an organization if they would sanction that fight despite Manny not fighting for over 4 years with his last win being 6 years ago, and putting him ahead of all the other contenders that are just waiting for a chance. Also the risk of injury for Manny is now significant and the probability that he wouldn't be able to compete with Barrios is also significant. So it's an Ali vs Berbick type situation all over again. It should never happen, there must be other ways to make money for Manny using his name and legacy other than fighting for a title at 46 after such a layoff.

He didn’t win that title in the 2020’s. Nobody has ever won world titles in 4 different decades to my knowledge. Yup, that's true. Nobody else has held titles in 4 decades either though.

For me 46yo Pacman beating Barrios CONVINCINGLY after 5 years out of the ring will be even more impressive than Crawford beating Canelo at the end of his career!

That’s my point. Nobody remembers Lalonde but everyone remembers Ray won world titles in 5 different weight classes, which he was the first to do as at the time as the WBO wasn’t recognised. People won’t remember Barrios but they’ll remember the accomplishment, if Pac can pull off the upset. Can’t see it myself, I think it’s a terrible decision tbh. Yes it is and that will remain the case even if he wins. It represents a stunning failure of imagination in my opinion.

That’s my point. Nobody remembers Lalonde but everyone remembers Ray won world titles in 5 different weight classes, which he was the first to do as at the time as the WBO wasn’t recognised. People won’t remember Barrios but they’ll remember the accomplishment, if Pac can pull off the upset. Can’t see it myself, I think it’s a terrible decision tbh. Ok got it. I missed the point. My bad.

​ Boots and Barrios are TBRB #1 and # 2 respectively with the championship vacant. It's a weak division. It will be a respectable win if Pacquiao pulls it off, nothing more, nothing less. George winning the true world heavyweight championship at 45 is unlikely to ever be surpassed as a singular achievement in boxing. The division is very weak atm. Barrios is a very fortunate world champion IMO. But I do agree the accomplishment would be a huge feat.

The Lalonde fight 2 weight class BS is what makes that stand up imo. Frankly, the BS draw he got in the next fight against Hearns is more memorable. Lalonde is sandwiched between hagler and Hearn rematch so that is understandable it’s forgotten. That’s my point. Nobody remembers Lalonde but everyone remembers Ray won world titles in 5 different weight classes, which he was the first to do as at the time as the WBO wasn’t recognised. People won’t remember Barrios but they’ll remember the accomplishment, if Pac can pull off the upset. Can’t see it myself, I think it’s a terrible decision tbh.

​ Boots and Barrios are TBRB #1 and # 2 respectively with the championship vacant. It's a weak division. It will be a respectable win if Pacquiao pulls it off, nothing more, nothing less. George winning the true world heavyweight championship at 45 is unlikely to ever be surpassed as a singular achievement in boxing. I didn’t realize Barrios was #2. I guess as the wbc champ he has to be. Yuck. I agree with your points here.

Not beating Barrios. If this was a top tier ww like Boots, ok. This wouldn’t be Foreman over Moorer.​ I don’t particularly rate Barrios either but the accomplishment would stand up historically. Donny Lalonde was no great shake but that win still holds up for Leonard IMO. I put it more in that category than Foreman-Moorer. Boots and Barrios are TBRB #1 and # 2 respectively with the championship vacant. It's a weak division. It will be a respectable win if Pacquiao pulls it off, nothing more, nothing less. George winning the true world heavyweight championship at 45 is unlikely to ever be surpassed as a singular achievement in boxing.

I don’t particularly rate Barrios either but the accomplishment would stand up historically. Donny Lalonde was no great shake but that win still holds up for Leonard IMO. I put it more in that category than Foreman-Moorer. The Lalonde fight 2 weight class BS is what makes that stand up imo. Frankly, the BS draw he got in the next fight against Hearns is more memorable. Lalonde is sandwiched between hagler and Hearn rematch so that is understandable it’s forgotten.

Not beating Barrios. If this was a top tier ww like Boots, ok. This wouldn’t be Foreman over Moorer. I don’t particularly rate Barrios either but the accomplishment would stand up historically. Donny Lalonde was no great shake but that win still holds up for Leonard IMO. I put it more in that category than Foreman-Moorer.

He already is acclaimed as the only 4 decade champ, since he was still champ in the 2020's, albeit briefly. The WBC being what they are, might let him drag out his title with no or very weak defenses until it gets into the 2030's. And he's already the only 8 division world champ that likely will ever be. He didn’t win that title in the 2020’s. Nobody has ever won world titles in 4 different decades to my knowledge.

Marlon Starling was a highly skilled welterweight titlist in the late 80s. Molinares is a POS who won a title from a punch about 2seconds after the bell. In fairness though starling was throwing after the bell too and got slept

If Pac wins, he gets a mega money fight with Canelo at 160. Canelo must cut his leg off to make 160.

I caught the reference I take it Mario would be Tomas vs Pac (if they fight and Pac gets slept at the 3:02 mark of a rd). Was wondering if Mario ever pulled a similar stunt as Tomas As it stands, Mario is pretty.......unspectacular. Marlon was talented Should be an easy fight for Pac which is why Team Pac picked Mario. He hasn't, Barrios is a good dude. But in terms of history, thats the level he would be at

Marlon Starling was a highly skilled welterweight titlist in the late 80s. Molinares is a POS who won a title from a punch about 2seconds after the bell. I caught the reference I take it Mario would be Tomas vs Pac (if they fight and Pac gets slept at the 3:02 mark of a rd). Was wondering if Mario ever pulled a similar stunt as Tomas As it stands, Mario is pretty.......unspectacular. Marlon was talented Should be an easy fight for Pac which is why Team Pac picked Mario.

Did Mario "Starling" someone ?!? TBF, I haven't seen many Mario fights. Marlon Starling was a highly skilled welterweight titlist in the late 80s. Molinares is a POS who won a title from a punch about 2seconds after the bell.

Same level as Tomas Molinares Did Mario "Starling" someone ?!? TBF, I haven't seen many Mario fights.

How do we rank Barrios ? Had he retired yesterday, what would he be remembered for ? Same level as Tomas Molinares