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Yordenis Ugas, Danny Garcia, Mikey Garcia, Kel Brook, Shawn Porter, Carlos Ocampo and Lamont Peters on? Answer is not just that they all fought Errol Spence over the last 5 years but that they were all given a guarantee on their split of a deal with Errol Spence. Terrence Crawford was not. You can pretend all you want that Al Haymon the savior and worship him like retarded sheep but it's very very clear that he sabotaged any chance of this fight being made just like he has done with other Boxers and other fights.

If Canelo had took that catch weight Spence fight then what would of happened to the Terence Crawford fight? If they can make an offer to Saul Alverez then why have they not managed to make one to Crawford? Is it just me or was there never any intention of making that Crawford fight next? Do you remember what Tim Smith said not that long ago at all which was something along the lines of seeing no sense in making a Spence v Crawford fight. "yes but yes but yes but Spence called Crawford out after the Ugas fight". What else was he meant to say when all the media had the mic's in his face and were only ever going to be satisfied hearing Terrence Crawfords name being called. He had to call him out, it don't mean he has any intention in following through with it.

Don't get me wrong I'm not saying he had much of a shot any way but the man came in looking like he was in good shape for his standards but was completely fooked after 3 rounds. I've seen him fumble his way through more than that while looking in worse shape. I know Fury is good at sapping energy and all that but that battery drained double quick I think he well over did it in Portugal. I'm sure he spent a good bit of nervous energy too with it being his big chance in the big arena too. Like I said it's no excuse I never gave him much of a chance.

Frankie 5hit show Warren has admitted his pockets are empty after winning the bid for this Fury fight. He can only afford a turd of an undrrcard, one that really is not fitting for a Heavyweight world title fight or a PPV. So where is Crispy Bob to bail him out? Are they not joint promoters of Tyson Fury? Surely Frank and Crispy Bob would of been patting each other on the back to of out bid Matchroom and get one over on Hearn but is that where Bob left it? Is that where Bob leaves Frank to struggle to actually build a half decent PPV event? Or look like an absolute joke like he currently is doing? Where is Bob and his Top Rank super powers?

After reading what Bob Arum was saying about how he would allow them to face Canelo but not on DAZN it sounds like he is not just your every day Boxing promoter but he actually owns the souls of these guys. As far as I am aware they are not tied down with ESPN exclusivity contracts and are free to fight on any network yet here is uncle Bob the hater of blacks and women acting like he has the power and the right to deny both fighters the opportunity to fight the face of the sport and possibly soon a world champion at the weight. Now let's not play games as we all know this is just another verbal attack on DAZN and Eddie Hearn cuz he fkking hates him and it has nothing to do with how many ppl possess and watch the DAZN app. But I do wonder what Smith or Beterbiev would have to say if DAZN offered them the fight and a shed load of money to do it. Would they be allowed to have a voice? Would they be allowed to accept the offer? And if they would be allowed then what the fkk is that crispy old racist even going on about? When was the last time Bob offered Canelo a fight with one of his stable?

We all know woman hating crispy racist Bob Arum hates Eddie Hearn so much that he can't keep his name out of his mouth and he can't get the image of Hearns face out of his dreams. Well last night one of his fighters got KTFO big time by a Hearn fighter on DAZN. Yes for us that was fighter B beating fighter A but the crispy racist will be taking that very personal, he will feel like Putin having to watch another Russian tank get rocketed. He will of been sat in his white robes and pillow case hat and would of been frothing at the mouth.

Would Josh Taylor still be the undisputed champion at 140 if he wasn't signed to crispy old racist woman hating Bob Arum's Top Wank? The town of Chorley is in a somber mood this morning after a robbery in Scotland, all I can say is its a good job that Mel Gibson isn't walking the streets of Chorley today. He would get that blue paint slapped right off him.

Apparently he is going to get higher than a mother fkker and see what the halucinative spirits tell him he should do in regards to his Boxing career. Just when ppl had stopped laughing at him as well. Lol. He is pure entertainment inside and out of the ring.

I'm seeing plenty of comments about how Canelo has turned down the chance to fight Jermall Charlo and is interested in a big financial deal to face Bivol and GGG. We all know by now the basics of this offer but I've not actually been able to find anything about the PBC offer to face Charlo. So was there one? I heard that it could of been a Charlo fight flowed by a Benavidez fight but where as it seems DAZN have actually put a package together and offered it to Canelo has the PBC done the same or is all this talk of Canelo turning away from it more to do with him not actually even recieving any offer to face Charlo or Benavidez? There is no point posters saying he turned it down when there was nothing to turn down. ​​​​

I keep seeing constant anti Eddie Hearn threads and in those threads is saltiness and mockery and claims of failure by Hearn to do this or make that. Then they attempt to laugh at the Hearn fans and question why they are even fans of a promoter. Yet the truth is Hearn don't have any fans, he's got haters. It's you sad acts that keep bringing Hearn up all the tlme, you despise him for some strange reason and can't stop talking about him, you go on to threads about BOXERS and bring up promoters, not them, YOU. The guy is winning in life, just like every other promoter and he is living in your heads rent free, you can't keep his name out of your mouths and you pretend it's everybody else that can't stop talking about him and try to pretend it's evrtyboty else. You are embarrassing yourselves, especially you RJJ.

I would ask him to pay off my mortgage and car and buy me a shiny new bicycle with a bell and lights. What would you ask this very generous man for? Crispy old racist Bob Arum asked for a disgusting 80-20 split even though the WBC rules state differently and Morris said "Yeah no problem my friend you ask and you shall receive" So generous, catch him while he is feeling charitable.

The reason Morris slimy Sillyman has now sanctioned an eliminator between somebody who hasn't fought in over 2 years after losing and somedody who came from a weight below who last got knocked out by somebody who came from the weight below that must be for 1 of 3 reasons. Reason 1, Mr Haymon needs something lined up for Errol Spence after Ugas as a block for the inevitable Terrence Crawford pressure. Reason 2, The PBC need to beef up the importance of the occasion to justify the price tag so asked one of their partner in crimes to do them a solid. Reason 3, Morris the sleaze just sees an opportunity to bleed a fight and has stamped it as some BS eliminator to get a cut of that sweet sweet money.

Can somebody plz provide me with a link to the WBC website page that describes the meaning and merit of the Franchise belt. I've looked and looked all over the Internet and there is nothing about it being won in the ring, exchanged between winner and loser. Every article, every explanation just states that the WBC bestow this thing as an honoury designation. I can't find anything that states it as an actual WORLD TITLE.

Canelo was the full WBC world champion at Middleweight and then Morris Sillyman gave him the Franchise belt and passed on the full WBC world title to Jermall Charlo by email. Looking at the Lightweight division it appears the Franchise WBC belt is to be regarded as the major WBC belt and is required to be part of the UNDISPUTED set. Is Canelo still the Franchise champ at 160 even though he has moved up and does that mean neither Mall Charlo or anybody else can become undisputed at the weight?

I would like to say on behalf of Luis Ortiz "FKK YOU AL HAYMON". Luis Ortiz could of had a way better Career than he has had but we all know what Haymon was doing with him. He would never allow Ortiz in with the better non PBC heavies just incase they did a better job on him than Deontay Wilder did as they were Wilder flagship victories, his claims to greatness, and they pushed the "Bogeyman" BS and claimed everybody was ducking him when nobody actually was. It was most obvious when they lied to team Joshua about him being on vacation with his family so couldn't fight AJ and made no attempts at all to inform Ortiz or his trainers of an offer even though they were in the gym preparing for the opportunity should it arise. Then you got Dillian Whyte offering him a PPV headline shot for millions in the UK but Ortiz management refused but counter offered with an undercard slot in America for less than 1 million which is a ridiculous counter offer and then claimed Whyte ducked by refusing it cuz his offer was way better. God knows who else has been scared off fighting Ortiz just so they could keep Wilder's wins looking great, I know other top fighters have been open to facing him . Al Haymon and the cult of PBC have stunted Ortiz career to enhance a bigger money maker and lied to him along the way to do it. ​​​​​​ ​​​​​​ ​​​​

I hear he don't want to fight Whyte with him and his management making no attempts to sort out a fight but just hiding behind the WBC and their vague statements. Alot like their effort in making that Joshua fight last year, FKK ALL. At the same time it sounds like Fury is guna line up a bum in a non title fight for his next outing, no title defence, we got a world champion who is going to pick way below the best contenders and isn't even put his WBC title on the line. He may as well just fkk off and go play exhibition or WWE or just straight up retire.

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Jermall Charlo received his WBC middleweight World title in the same way Devin Haney received his and now Morris Sillyman has demoted Haney. Personally, although I acknowledge both got their belts via email which is dumb, I recognised both as full fledge world champions. Or are the WBC going to play double standards and only demote Haney cuz Maurice's stupid calls have made a bit of a mess of 135? The WBC are serious serious fkk ups lately and we all know its down to greed. Not only is there all this mess but now I'm reading the WBC Heavyweight champion will be fighting in March but his WBC belt won't even be on the line. YEAH THAT SOUNDS NORMAL. The WBA took their lime light there for a while but it seems the WBC have really come back strong in the which organisation is the biggest bag of wank in the sport battle.

Can anybody explain what he means by that? I see those words are attracting alot of negativity but im not sure what he is trying to say..

I've not seen it yet, I'm always complaining about Davis but that's about his lack of fighting the top names when him and his team run their mouths so much but I think he looks a real high end talent regardless of my dislike. So are we not just getting ahead of ourselves here? Did he have a bad night? Was he doing OK before he hurt his hand? Did he really hurt his hand or is it an excuse? Styles make fights and this could of just been an awkward one for him. Most top fighters have had an off night or an opponent who give them headaches. I've never heard much steam for Cruz before, he looks decent from what I've seen but not elite. Or was he legit exposed? I expected Tank to roll right over this guy with a highlight reel KO.

He's demanding we should stop talking about Canelo Alverez and start talking about PBC fighters who do fkk all compared to Canelo. He is just a PBC whore. He stands in front of microphones as a great of the sport and shills for the PBC. He has been attempting to jump on Canelos balls all week in an attempt to sell this Tank crap. The man is one of the greatest Boxers this sport has seen and now he is a promoter and his job is to promote but that dirty little slag is choosing to drag other fighters names through mud to promote his own, it really is the PBC school of promotion. I hope that cvnt chokes on a tramps d1kk

I don't like the fact Haney was gifted the WBC belt but he was and is the champion, even worse is this Franchise belt and Morris Silly Man, that's what has caused all this chit in the 1st place. This franchise belt was not meant to be fought over and transferred but in the last 2 fights at 135 it has changed hands twice. You have fallen in to his trap, it being recognised as a winnable and transferable title, another one to claim sanctioning fees on and that's all sweet for slippery Morris. Great for Kambosos to win it was a great result, Haney is an email champ but he is the champ, let's get an undisputed fight and let things fall back in to some sort of order.

Of course this is hypothetical because we all can see quite clearly that Spence dont want it. But the Crawford hate crew are working serious overtime here to try to play down that victory at the weekend.. Porter is shot, Porter is overrated, Porter took a dive, Porter was winning on the cards, Crawford looked bad. All this comes after 2 years worth of "Fight Porter, he's scared of Porter, he's got no resume at 147 a win over Porter would prove something".. The impression I'm getting is its not just Spence and Master Al that know Crawford beats Spence, It seems the Spence fans also all know it so they don't really wana see that fight either. They continue to play him down and continue to list fighters they feel he needs to face to prove something at 147 and those lists don't seem to include Spence. ​​​​​

I can't be bothered to go through all the negative and dismissive BS Spence has been spouting about Crawford over the last few years as Spence fans want to bury their heads in the sand and pretend he never said the things he said. They don't want remember the times Crawford has stood in his face calling him out just to be met with negativity and dismissive talk. Now Spence was supposed to call out the winner of that fight but as soon as Bud won Spence legged it out of there quick time, not quick enough to not get asked a couple of questions about Crawford like Have you got a message for Crawford - NO. The man just don't want that smoke and the ONLY way it could be more clear is if Spence said "I DON'T WANT THAT SMOKE". ​​​​​​ ​​​​​​

He was competitive throughout even though he never looked like he could win and that's much more than I expected of him. You can't be competitive or make Canelo work and sweat if you are a bum, he would of been exposed early. I like his style, shame he hasn't got a bit more power but his jab is good, his defence is good and his counters are good. The man is a good fighter.

No shame in losing to the best fighter in the division and the warrior spirit was admirable last night. He's had one of those nights where you lose yet ppl think more highly of you for the effort. Tactics, training and decision making were not good but just the will to win or stay in the fight or just stay on his feet were second to none. He lost but everybody are tipping their hats to his grit and determination. Its big respect in defeat. I just hope he doesn't now have a few days to think up some crazy nonsense and start to lose some of the respect he has gained. That's what happened last time. All he had to do was accept the loss but he coudlnt and dragged everybody through the mud trying to save face and it turned him in to a massive joke. Come on Deontay don't do it again. You done well in defeat. Don't fkk it up and then look like a bad loser again. ​​​​

That was some very heavy handed push by Canelo, if I was a fighting man instead of God damn gifted lover that I am I think I would of retaliated to that kind of push with a swipe, to be fair he missed by a country bumkins mile and was fed a fast 1-2 by Canelo but I can't blame the man for trying.

That is all. He talks about Spence, he talks about Crawford, he talks about Stank Davis. How about just fight anybody in the top 15? No point talking and doing no fighting at all. He's hardly fought in years.

I know Showtime released theirs and We were told to wait for Fox to release theirs but I never saw it, did it pass me by? I just wonder if we saw figgts like CANELO v A. DIRRELL PAC V Ugas. Maybe followed by CANELO v Plant PAC v Spence. Maybe Spence injury is legit, maybe Canelo just being a diva but god damn if this chit isn't fishy. This stinks of the PBC tricking free agent stars like Pac and Canelo in to multi fight deals which they never wanted. Like I said, it could well be legit but something doesn't sit right, Big Dunn can call me a racist all day long if it helps his victim mentality but its quite clear I'm far from alone in smelling a rat here. How ever, Pac v Ugas is an OK fight in my book.

I don't care that some ppl hate one of the greatest fighters to have competed in the sport and some of his fan boys are straight up annoying but it seems that 99%, maybe a full 100% of ppl that hate Manny Pacquiao are American. Why is it only Americans that seem to hate him? Why does the rest of the world's Boxing fans have no issue but he makes Americans blood boil? Are there any none American Manny haters on this forum? And why does the majority of hate for anybody involved in Boxing tend to come from Americans? Apart from Deontay Wilder of course cuz the whole Boxing world is beginning to hate him ​​​