A statement I am making on the behalf of Luis King Kong Ortiz

Hahahaha, somebody pulls you up and the 1st thing you do is call them a racist too. Lol can't you see you have just done exactly what he said you do and proven his point. Honestly I love you man you do make me laugh. Where did I call him a racist? I said he’s likely an alt of a banned poster. I didn’t call you one either. Just pointed out what had to be your agenda given the lies. Why else would you lie like you have in this thread?

You clearly don’t know his history, I’m not the Only poster that has expressed that same opinion. Sept 2021 join date and posting this. Likely an alt of a poster banned for racism. If not, please be careful who you co-sign. lying about Ortiz situation isn’t rooting for his dreams. It’s lying to fit into the agenda. AJ is a brit. His agenda is anti black anti American. SMDH. Hahahaha, somebody pulls you up and the 1st thing you do is call them a racist too. Lol can't you see you have just done exactly what he said you do and proven his point. Honestly I love you man you do make me laugh.

The guy just typed he is a Joshua fan and was rooting for Ortiz' dreams in the post you responded to and you called him anti black. You are one of those privileged african americans who always whine about racism arent you? Must be hard being babied by daddy government and white liberals across the globe in one of the most wealthy nations on the planet. Luckily there are sane african americans as well. Praise God for them. Instant ignore, just absolutely ridicilous bull**** to call him anti black :D The BigSnitch :****you: You clearly don’t know his history, I’m not the Only poster that has expressed that same opinion. Sept 2021 join date and posting this. Likely an alt of a poster banned for racism. If not, please be careful who you co-sign. lying about Ortiz situation isn’t rooting for his dreams. It’s lying to fit into the agenda. AJ is a brit. His agenda is anti black anti American. SMDH.

How do you know he lied to him? You’re literally making things up with no proof just to force them into your anti black, anti American agenda. Ortiz was with other promoters. He left them, went to Haymon. He has never expressed anything I’ve seen other than being happy he’s with pbc. Notice the posters co-signing this are other Brits who seem to share the same agenda. You Brits are furious that boxers like working for pbc and haven’t left to work for Hearn. The guy just typed he is a Joshua fan and was rooting for Ortiz' dreams in the post you responded to and you called him anti black. You are one of those privileged african americans who always whine about racism arent you? Must be hard being babied by daddy government and white liberals across the globe in one of the most wealthy nations on the planet. Luckily there are sane african americans as well. Praise God for them. Instant ignore, just absolutely ridicilous bullshit to call him anti black :D The BigSnitch :fuckyou:

he is the only one who doesnt show his face in public, doesnt interviews, talk up his fighters, or sell the fight. skates accountability at every pass 20 years in and this clown is never asked anything. he is a joke Because he chooses not to be a public figure somehow that equates into him being more corrupt than the rest of these vultures? Dumb.......

In an alternate universe... Emanuel Steward landed a helicopter in Cuba in the late 90s, rescued Luis Ortiz, and changed heavyweight boxing history.

It's funny that, you only defend PBC. Like I say, you are a shill. Anything bad I say about anything is OK with you until I say it about PBC. AND, I'm quick to point out racism period. I haven’t defended anything pbc has done. I point out the instances when you blatantly lie, like in this thread where you made up that Ortiz was lied to by Haymon without any evidence to support that. I’m fine if you don’t like Haymon or pbc. I’m fine if you point out something bad they did. I just want to know why you lie about him but not the others. If it’s not an anti black, anti American agenda just provide a plausible reason why. Come on dude, you stay quiet whenever there is actual racism. You usually co-sign the guys that have been banned for racism.

Haymon is no different than anyone who has ever held that position. Haymon, Arum, King, Hearn, Duva, they’re all one and the same. he is the only one who doesnt show his face in public, doesnt interviews, talk up his fighters, or sell the fight. skates accountability at every pass 20 years in and this clown is never asked anything. he is a joke

It is negative but it ain't weird, the man is a charleton. He does not belong in this sport. Haymon is no different than anyone who has ever held that position. Haymon, Arum, King, Hearn, Duva, they’re all one and the same.

To be fair to Jimenez he was only acting under orders from a above and we all know if you don't act upon the orders of above you are out the door. Look what happened to Lou DiBella when he got confused and thought his ppl actually wanted the Heavyweight undisputed fight between Wilder and Joshua. We may never know the exact story. From what various media accounts tell at that time, Jimenez was screaming lowball and demanding $10 million. Whatever moon and stars Haymon promised Jimenez, he's still had the sole discretion of what option to go for. Ruiz was not swayed. He's with Haymon also. There's no doubt Andy would still last years without looking for a job with the money he got from that fight.

Seeing those kids of Luis Ortiz, the eldest in tears, I could imagine Jimenez being consumed with guilt denying their father the opportunity to make money significantly more by turning down DAZN's offer. I doubt the same offer would re-appear considering DAZN no longer spend huge money like drunken sailors. Jimenez will never be able to live in peace because of that silly decision he made without Ortiz's consent. To be fair to Jimenez he was only acting under orders from a above and we all know if you don't act upon the orders of above you are out the door. Look what happened to Lou DiBella when he got confused and thought his ppl actually wanted the Heavyweight undisputed fight between Wilder and Joshua.

Oscar and GBP are the reason Ortiz became relevant player at HW. Under GBP they worked him up to the point he was headlining HBO cards,beating the likes of Jennings before someone came along whispering in his ear. PBC has a history of having thier fighters turn down career high pay days in order to benefit the brand more so than the fighters earnings. Ortiz turning down $7mil for Joshua Wilder turned down $100-$120mil 3 fight deal ​​​Mall turned down $5-$7 mil for a shot at Canelo Mall turned down $7 mil Andrade offer Tank turned down $5mil for a shot at Farmer I'm sure there's a couple more but you get the picture. I'm not aware of any other high profile fighter,from any other promotional outfit,turning down lucrative offers like that? And these aren't offers to face second rate fighters,these are offers to face the best of the division sans Farmer. Seeing those kids of Luis Ortiz, the eldest in tears, I could imagine Jimenez being consumed with guilt denying their father the opportunity to make money significantly more by turning down DAZN's offer. I doubt the same offer would re-appear considering DAZN no longer spend huge money like drunken sailors. Jimenez will never be able to live in peace because of that silly decision he made without Ortiz's consent.

lol that was a scrub fight and neither guys are top contenders Gatekeeper matchup

What exactly do you mean by that? Just that people are easily persuaded to pass on what appears to be a better scenario/deal now for something that's promised in the future. A bird in hand is worth two in the bush....

Considering your weird negative obsession with PBC/Harmon, your opinion means less than nothing. It is negative but it ain't weird, the man is a charleton. He does not belong in this sport.

Eh,happens all the time chief when you're promised greener pastures... What exactly do you mean by that?

We don’t know the details though, it’s like when AJ “turned down” the 50m. We don’t know what was in the contract, we don’t know the terms and conditions etc etc. These guys aren’t stupid, they’re not gonna turn down something that is financially beneficial to them. Eh,happens all the time chief when you're promised greener pastures...

Wilder/Finkel/DAZN's head brass have confirmed offer to Wilder Roberto Diaz is on record confirming offer to Jermall Jay Jimenes confirmed offer to Ortiz Hearns offer to Jermall and Tank can be questioned I suppose We don’t know the details though, it’s like when AJ “turned down” the 50m. We don’t know what was in the contract, we don’t know the terms and conditions etc etc. These guys aren’t stupid, they’re not gonna turn down something that is financially beneficial to them.

PBC got him two title shots lol. They did but he only made a combined $2mil for those fights where he was KTFO...where as he would've made $7 for the first fight against Joshua,had a very good chance to upset him like Ruiz making atleast $10-$15 mil in the rematch and becoming the WBO,WBA and IBF heavyweight champ in one fell swoop.... Really bad management however which way you look at it but that's what happens when you allow yourself to become a PBC pawn.If he had lost to Joshua,oh well,hed be $7million dollars richer and PBC still will have had him in line for a Wilder shot anyways. $2mil/2 KO losses < $20mil/ 3belts.

I would like to say on behalf of Luis Ortiz "FKK YOU AL HAYMON". Luis Ortiz could of had a way better Career than he has had but we all know what Haymon was doing with him. He would never allow Ortiz in with the better non PBC heavies just incase they did a better job on him than Deontay Wilder did as they were Wilder flagship victories, his claims to greatness, and they pushed the "Bogeyman" BS and claimed everybody was ducking him when nobody actually was. It was most obvious when they lied to team Joshua about him being on vacation with his family so couldn't fight AJ and made no attempts at all to inform Ortiz or his trainers of an offer even though they were in the gym preparing for the opportunity should it arise. Then you got Dillian Whyte offering him a PPV headline shot for millions in the UK but Ortiz management refused but counter offered with an undercard slot in America for less than 1 million which is a ridiculous counter offer and then claimed Whyte ducked by refusing it cuz his offer was way better. God knows who else has been scared off fighting Ortiz just so they could keep Wilder's wins looking great, I know other top fighters have been open to facing him . Al Haymon and the cult of PBC have stunted Ortiz career to enhance a bigger money maker and lied to him along the way to do it. ​​​​​​ ​​​​​​ ​​​​ Considering your weird negative obsession with PBC/Harmon, your opinion means less than nothing.