If Canelo had accepted the Spence fight.....

Top 3? Who is better than him besides Beterbiev? Bivol is ranked as #2 by The Ring, which means he is a top 3 fighter. He ranks in the top 3. Other Examples: Mayweather, ranked as #3 at 147 by The Ring, beat a top 3 WW fighter in Ring’s #2 ranked Shane Mosley. This was a fight between two top 3 welterweights. From 2015 to 2022, Deontay Wilder has been ranked as a top 3 HW by The Ring. Either as #1,#2, or #3. He has been a top 3 HW for 7 years now. Oleksandr Usyk beat a legit top 3 HW in Anthony Joshua, who ranked at #1 by The Ring when Usyk defeated him. Does that make my comment a little clearer?

PBC needs money, Haymon has 3 undefeated fighters he can sell like $2 ____s and it's an easy $150 mil for Clenelo. Probably won't need drugs or rigged cards to beat these 3. Spence gets destroyed at 164. James will have to throw in the towel.

He definitely did. The money sounds real good from the PBC offer and personally I'd love to see the Charlo and Benavidez fights (there is only 1 guy I wana see Spence fight). But Canelo said he wants to try to win belts at 175. Bivol is an unbeatan champion at that weight. Where as neither Charlo or Benavidez are. So for Canelo the choice was obvious. I cant say I care too much for the Golovkin fight but its a side show fight based on 2 previous close classics between them. I am definitely dreading the GGG fight. It’s one of those boxing fights that are better labeling it as an “event”. It’s a fight that you can probably enjoy only for its possible one-sided entertainment value. Like “this one guy is going to win, but how badly will he beat up his opponent?” Pacquiao-Margarito Mayweather-Marquez Fury-Wilder III Come to mind as similar “events”. Basically I will be tuning in to see just how convincingly Canelo will beat GGG. Not who will win or if GGG has a chance at an upset. The most I am looking for in GGG is how competitive will he be in his L. His fights vs Derevyanchenko and Murata showed that he can still be competitive but not at the elite level.

If Canelo had took that catch weight Spence fight then what would of happened to the Terence Crawford fight? If they can make an offer to Saul Alverez then why have they not managed to make one to Crawford? Is it just me or was there never any intention of making that Crawford fight next? Do you remember what Tim Smith said not that long ago at all which was something along the lines of seeing no sense in making a Spence v Crawford fight. "yes but yes but yes but Spence called Crawford out after the Ugas fight". What else was he meant to say when all the media had the mic's in his face and were only ever going to be satisfied hearing Terrence Crawfords name being called. He had to call him out, it don't mean he has any intention in following through with it. You’re on this site everyday and yet you ask the stupidest questions. Canelo’s been scheduled to fight Bivol for months now so it’s obvious that the offer was made prior to Buds free agent status. Also Canelo offers a better return on their investment so why wouldn’t Haymon try to secure a Canelo fight? Including offering up Spence if that’s what it took. Since that fight is no longer an option it’s time to pursue the next biggest fight which should be Crawford. The fact that there’s been no reporting on this situation gives me a good feeling about the situation. I think they’re negotiating right now as we speak.

If Canelo had took that catch weight Spence fight then what would of happened to the Terence Crawford fight? If they can make an offer to Saul Alverez then why have they not managed to make one to Crawford? Is it just me or was there never any intention of making that Crawford fight next? Do you remember what Tim Smith said not that long ago at all which was something along the lines of seeing no sense in making a Spence v Crawford fight. "yes but yes but yes but Spence called Crawford out after the Ugas fight". What else was he meant to say when all the media had the mic's in his face and were only ever going to be satisfied hearing Terrence Crawfords name being called. He had to call him out, it don't mean he has any intention in following through with it. I get being upset that the fight isn’t signed yet but being mad they extended an offer to Canelo before Crawford???? I mean you do understand boxers move differently when they’re the B side and the a side?

TGB Promotions came out and said that the package they offered Canelo was for him to fight Charlo/Benavidez and the Spence at a catchweight. The report is here on boxingscene I believe. Yeah I seen that I just thought it was from Hearn for some reason, must have been a senior moment lol.

Really I didn't see that, unless Im confused between Hearn and PBC, was it 45mill offer ? TGB Promotions came out and said that the package they offered Canelo was for him to fight Charlo/Benavidez and the Spence at a catchweight. The report is here on boxingscene I believe.

Not according to yesterdays report. Spence was included in the offer made from the PBC. Really I didn't see that, unless Im confused between Hearn and PBC, was it 45mill offer ?

The offer wasn't made by the Spence camp, it was Hearn offering Canelo purses for 3 fights, Spence was one of those, team Spence haven't made an official offer to Canelo, Spence just said off the cuff publicly he would go to 160 for a Canelo fight. Crawford Spence is in the works, not Canelo Spence, Canelo will not go to 160 again. Not according to yesterdays report. Spence was included in the offer made from the PBC.

Canelo needs to try and beat Golovkin for the first time above anything else. Now that Golovkin is in his 40s, he has a chance. Golovkin won the first by a near shut-out, and the second 115-113, but mark the words of the Great Nash, the 3rd fight is a 50-50. Nash out. AKA, Dr. Boxing.

The offer wasn't made by the Spence camp, it was Hearn offering Canelo purses for 3 fights, Spence was one of those, team Spence haven't made an official offer to Canelo, Spence just said off the cuff publicly he would go to 160 for a Canelo fight. Crawford Spence is in the works, not Canelo Spence, Canelo will not go to 160 again.

Because Haymon knows a Canelo fight will put asses in the seats and make money. He’s not sure how much Bud would bring in vs other in house PBC fights. Especially since he would have to pay Bud a substantial amount to get it done. Has to make business sense. Arum lost money on Bud for years, Haymon isn’t risking his top guy at 147 to do the same.

If Canelo took the Spence fight at the supposed 164lbs, then he would have had all of his critics ragging on him for that. I am glad he didn’t take that fight or the Charlo fight. Canelo did the right thing in choosing Bivol, a champion and top 3 fighter at 175lbs. Top 3? Who is better than him besides Beterbiev?

If you're Spence and you're confident that you can beat the current PPV and P4P king, Bud Crawford becomes an afterthought.

- - U minder know U loose wif no diapers on? Tut tut tut. When I see a response like that I can see that you are not happy with what I wrote but have fkk all of any real worth to respond with. Its as good as saying "I don't want to acknowledge it but I know you are right"

If Canelo had took that catch weight Spence fight then what would of happened to the Terence Crawford fight? If they can make an offer to Saul Alverez then why have they not managed to make one to Crawford? Is it just me or was there never any intention of making that Crawford fight next? Do you remember what Tim Smith said not that long ago at all which was something along the lines of seeing no sense in making a Spence v Crawford fight. "yes but yes but yes but Spence called Crawford out after the Ugas fight". What else was he meant to say when all the media had the mic's in his face and were only ever going to be satisfied hearing Terrence Crawfords name being called. He had to call him out, it don't mean he has any intention in following through with it. - - U minder know U loose wif no diapers on?

If Canelo took the Spence fight at the supposed 164lbs, then he would have had all of his critics ragging on him for that. I am glad he didn’t take that fight or the Charlo fight. Canelo did the right thing in choosing Bivol, a champion and top 3 fighter at 175lbs. He definitely did. The money sounds real good from the PBC offer and personally I'd love to see the Charlo and Benavidez fights (there is only 1 guy I wana see Spence fight). But Canelo said he wants to try to win belts at 175. Bivol is an unbeatan champion at that weight. Where as neither Charlo or Benavidez are. So for Canelo the choice was obvious. I cant say I care too much for the Golovkin fight but its a side show fight based on 2 previous close classics between them.

If Canelo took the Spence fight at the supposed 164lbs, then he would have had all of his critics ragging on him for that. I am glad he didn’t take that fight or the Charlo fight. Canelo did the right thing in choosing Bivol, a champion and top 3 fighter at 175lbs.

just be patient man I was being but then we hear an offer for Spence to fight somebody else has already managed to be made. If Spence target is Crawford why is Canelo at a catch weight being offered instead?

just be patient man