Hes a physically big guy, its no absolute reason why he looks so frickin huge. He is obviously on something. Its not a question of maybe or if, its just how long will people look the other way before they see it for what it is.
He has a clear case of steroid gut. Its just easy to not pickup on it. He clearly is using. It is just so obvious.
GGG is a guy who is really talented and i often get upset he wasn't boxing 18 years ago because its such a great waste of talent and ability. He was too good to have wasted his career like this but the same issue i have with Abel i have with Hearn. Its easy to get wrapped up in a boxers career and herald them as champion as well as a person to be worshiped.
I remember the swagger Iverson had. The flare of Barry Sanders. The all around brutish ability of LeBron and Shaq, yet they were all flawed and did certain things wrong and needed to be respected for their skill as well as reprimanded for their mishaps. Hearn doesn't wanna let AJ fight Wilder because the money train can dry up. Abel is the same way. These guys don't respect their careers as fighters they just respect them as bankrolls. They treat their mega fights as lottery tickets to spend on exploits instead of the fight that would help keep Boxing afloat.
Andrade might be the best kept secret in boxing or overrated. Go fight somebody. I get why fans don't wanna see their fighters lose, it opens the door for the way they feel about themselves to be torn open and bare for people to see, but at what point do you acknowledge someone has to stop or step up?
Oh hello spoon!
do you remember when freddie roach said they had no problem with the drug testing demands but then backed out of the fight for 2010? :lol1:
remember when pacquiao wanted to fight someone else on may 5th 2012 but when mayweather got his sentenced pushed back so he can fight on may 5th, bob arum decided to make all these excuses like needing to build a whole stadium and said pacquiao couldn't fight due to a cut?
lololololol Duckquiao ducked TBE TWICE
:dance: :rofl:
I don't get it.
Actual video proof of Manny Pacquiao on ESPN admitting he walked.....then agreed to fight again in 2012 and walked....then agreed to the same fight negotiations he walked from in 2015
Freddie said yeah Pac walked.
Arum admitted Pac walked.
Michael Koncz said they walked.
Yet they blame Floyd still??????? Jeeeeeeeeeeez
A great inspirational story and one of the last few people who sparked genuine interest with the fans and boxing. He had a lot of flaws and worked around them properly. I hated the whole posturing from him and Floyd. It was just crazy wack to me on every single level. I never personally felt Floyd was right with saying he cheated and was using PEDS. It was funny to hear Roger talk about that A-Side meth, but corny because just because you accuse me of using, don;t mean i am and just because i reject wanting to do your tests, don't mean anything either. He was an immaculate fighter and i want to see him still fight, if he can.
I feel Tank actually cares for boxing in a way that Adrien didn’t. Broner was comfy with waiting guys out to wear down and then ko them when they were too far along physically to come back. Tank actually goes for the win.
what about "i wore the wrong socks" that is pretty bad. Like you a grown man you are the one that picked out the socks you wore that day
What about clitoris gloves ( Cleto Reyes ) gloves.
Or bad socks.
or a car accident he was in.
These kinds of antics annoy me. Charlo and Andrade are all available for you to go face yet you want to go for Callum Smith or Sergey? It's just insane to even think that kind of a fight even makes sense. Sergey is older and he is obviously going for that fight because he can get a name on his profile that has been dented multiple times before. It's just obvious shady practices by Oscar and the crew
People are legit ******ed in this forum. How does a guy who has a clean, easy and decisive win over the other, while being retired and way past prime get slighted because the same person who was easily pinned and reduced to someone too gunshy to fight......become slighted off the strength of said guy winning at age 40?
Wouldn't that make Floyd a better ATG fighter that he was able to win against that guy? The same guy people said Floyd waited to get older....EVEN THOUGH.....FLOYD IS OLDER?
So which one is it? Yeah, he had a torn rotator cuff, that stupid lie. At the end of the day, all this win did was make Floyd look that much better.
I mean think about it, why would Manny fight Chris Algeri....Tim Bradley....Brandon Rios.....Marquez....Jesse Vargas......if he had it in him to fight a guy like Keith? Then win? Lmao, Pac fans are still triggered to this day.
Well thats just silly. How can a guy who dedicated his entire life to the sport, then be slandered because people are tired of hyping up black male athletes at times? Its not Floyd's fault he made it his priority to try and dare to be great. Now you can say yeah, he made a great paradigm shift with the protecting the zero concept, but still, he actually dared to be great. Its more or less lazy promotion on the part of people trying to cash in on what Floyd did.
I think that Yarde provided enough grit, determination, toughness and ability to trouble Sergey enough to make Canelo feel like he has a chance. Yet he will still ask for a weight clause to tip the scales more. I think the fight is too dangerous for Canelo, however he must see something in him to make him wanna avoid more legacy building and winnable matches.
I think Canelo has a great chance to beat Andrade and Charlo, and i think Charlo has softened up on competition enough to be beat. 36 year old Kov is a solid win on his resume but its like come on Saul, like enough is enough is enough is enough.
Pac was always a fighter i enjoyed looking at but the truth is just the truth. He was an amazing fighting in his prime and still is great to watch but when you see how he looked vs Floyd he had to make up an excuse of a bad shoulder as if Floyd didn't have bad hands. Even if his shoulder was shot to shet, why make yourself look bad when you're supposed to be this humble guy?? Everything Pac does from here on in adds onto the legend that is Floyd because lets say he goes and faces Danny Garcia....wins...and beats Errol.....how would that make Pac higher than Manny when an old Floyd who had a lessened offense as he got older was able to neutralize Pac and make him tentative and scared to engage?
Hard to say because the fight got crazy real early. The fact that he didn't recover like quickly like usual is interesting. Ruiz did keep punishing that body but I expected more of Joshua. Had this been a 12-rounder we might have a better idea.
I think it's clear he's on something. That physique isn't natural. I'm just wondering if it's something standard or an unknown "designer" PED that VADA doesn't test for.
I think it was you that i spoke to about this a few months or years back like who the **** can't or couldn't see he was juicing? I think he has been siphoning off for the past few fights, but hey, it is what it is.
What a massive massive massive loss. The Pac x Floyd fight did so well because it was built off the back of Floyd and people seeing him dethroned. AJ X Wilder was two undefeated fighters from the US and across the pond and that was what the allure was built off of. So i don't see the fight being as massive. What a loss though.
Thought the point of DZN was to not have to deal with PPV?? I hate to call someone who takes punches to the body for a living a ducker, i just hate the posturing at times because it is just so annoying. To see Canelo fight Smith, Kirkland, Fielding and someone like AMIR KHAN of all people???? It just is annoying to see him go through facing someone like Sergey, who i think can still beat Saul, but seems like its a cashout for both sides vs a legit fight of two guys who can easily lose.
Andrade on the other hand? Its kind of interesting how snake bitten he seems to be. I don't wanna see guys like him just pick away at other fighters of his ilk so guys can sort of fight the winner and shove the loser to the bottom of the pile
Bruh he like 60 years old, you think its cool he got sucker punched by some hoodlum?
So what he was talking chit to that lesbian. Do you know who instigated his beef with the lesbian or what it was even over? How do we know she didnt start it with him?
Word was, Shields missed weight and he jabbed fun at her and the woman.....lol.....is Shields' sister and got upset so he went back at her.
All alleged of course but rightfully so.
Plus nobody gets any stripes for sucker punching a senior citizen.
Khan was not a great boxer. Not great, special, or worldly. He was just another very talented fighter who knew how to use his handspeed to beat his opponents. He had a myriad of flaws.
Left his chin in the air
Could not fight moving backwards
poor upper body movement
always threw punches at the same speed
He only had fast hands. Which is more like shoe shining hand speed.
People always make a big fuss about the guys who Floyd fought and they had slow feet, but Khan didn't have better feet. His were clumsy and sloppy
I think you're lying.
Every source has told me the same thing; Conor was sent to hospital from Pauli's viscious body attack and he was urinating and coughing up blood.
I said this before Pauli came out and said it so it proves my sources right.
Holy **** man is that true??? I really hope it is man. For the sake of boxing i just wanna see him get embarrassed and washed by Floyd. I wanna see FM go out on the top of top. Like just completely wash Conor and he go back to the drawing board completely broken.
People front as if Boxing isn't as tough or requires so little when in fact, people in MMA have the luxury of "cheating"
If the fight gets too rough, they can just abandon punching and go right into leg kicks, or into a submission. Not to say that requires no skill, but it allows you to cover for your inability to handle a certain discipline like Boxers must do in order to takeover and be good. It really is in many aspects, human **** fighting.
Sorry for the tangent i got on, but i really want the world to see how skilled Boxers are from this fight.
I NEVER feel sorry for guys looking to find a way out of fights. In fact if this wasn't Ward vs Kovalev and Kovalev wasn't supposed to be the big bad Krusher, no1 would be making these excuses for him. He lost due to his own poor boxing, conditioning and ring awareness. No excuses. Take your loss and move on.
Like i didn't get it. You had no respect for Andre and his abiliy to hurt you. Yet he hurt you multiple times and you were the Krusher, but complaining about the punches being low? It's amazing to see it.
Once you saw him turn his back to Andre you knew he mentally was fatigued. He was finished and couldn't bounce back.
From that position where he's bent up on the ropes, all it took was for Andre to take a deep breath and hit him with a uppercut to win via KO.
No props what so ever from me.
"I'm going to stand my foot in the middle of the ring and stay there"
Then he ran around the ring getting walked down by a 40 year old, washed up, retired, inactive, non puncher whilst having 20 lbs on him.
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
McNuggets said he'd be dead in 4
Then changes it to 1 round.
He said he wasn't all that good, just composed. How he wanted to go out on his shield LMAOOOO
Floyd is definitely past it, but he did boxing great justice against this power puncher
Excuse me, " POWER PUNCHER "
the fact that you guys try to force this lie and act like the first negotiations didnt fall apart due to pac and his team denying the same test they accepted when they finally fought is just ridiculous. Pacs team even admitted they ruined the first negotiations but you guys cant? no matter what happened or what BS floyd spewed in negotiations after that, its just a fact u cant deny... just shut the hell up this circus is over. now lets focus on the real fights.
Koncz said it, Freddie Roach said it, Manny Pacquiao got on ESPN and said it.....yet they blame Floyd. Like why would you deny a fight over a test in 2009, but agree to the same test in 2015?
Dana White calling it like he saw it is painful for PAC fans. He flat out said that no way was the delay in making the May-PAC fight because of Floyd's side because they were so professional and easy to work with.
Arum is the villain Manny fans should be upset with. He killed that fight for years and made up the excesses for before and after the loss. Now that Mannynis old he's screwing him over. Pacquaio fans should hate Arum, he has harmed Manny.
The delay was in Connor trying to make the deal with Floyd with no Dana, once he realized he couldn't, he then went to fight Floyd and Dana said the fight was made so easily.