Floyd ruined a whole generation of African-American fighters.

Lol at Mayweather being responsible for padded records when Mayweather has an ATG resume You guys expose yourselves by acting like the significance of being undefeated started with Floyd Pacquaio Canelo DLH Mosley JMM Cotto Hatton Maidana Judah Corrales Castillo Hernandez Gatti Manfreddy Baldomir Augustus Guerrero Ortiz lol "padded"

https://youtu.be/QVWTvINzki4?t=2m32s <— It’s timestamped for you. Now don’t run away. Apologize to me. Str8 FACKS!!1!

In other words you lied. You made the claim, you find the video. I'm not going to look for something that doesn't exist. Nice try. You should be embarrassed with how stupid you are.

Nah. He’s gone in hiding hoping to come back when people forget. That puta. I really don't get why people think anyone has an agenda when you things like this is put up. Then they would ask you for "Proof" or you are lying. I usually ignore muppets that ask me questions like that, but yeah once in a while i always try to dump it on them like you did here. I recently had to do that with one idiotic poster (Relevant) on here, he claimed Breazeale was the one who attacked Wilder and his young family (According to what Wilder said). I was stunned because there was information in the public that dispute that, multiple sources who were there and who came out with the info that it was indeed Wilder's entourage which had include his brother that attacked Breazeale in front of his crying kids and wife. I had to dig out the articles including the court case that Breazeale filed against Wilder. That idiotic poster (Relevant or whatever his name was) then disappear. Hopefully you would get an apology here.

Well thats just silly. How can a guy who dedicated his entire life to the sport, then be slandered because people are tired of hyping up black male athletes at times? Its not Floyd's fault he made it his priority to try and dare to be great. Now you can say yeah, he made a great paradigm shift with the protecting the zero concept, but still, he actually dared to be great. Its more or less lazy promotion on the part of people trying to cash in on what Floyd did. Green K for a great post. I stopped reading the thread here. I'm out.

Padded records. "Not c0cky just confident doe!", "The A-side doe!", "I get money doe!", "I'm my own promoter doe!", "Still got my 0 doe!" "The risk don't match the reward doe!" This is the blueprint all African-American fighters have been taking since Floyd's success. And it is not working out well for them. The Charlos are garbage. Couldnt agree more. It worked for Floyd. Floyd was Floyd. But now everybody thinks they can be Floyd but they cant cuz they aint. But it dont stop theym trying to talk like him and play their career like him. Look at Deontay Wilder, hes still talking about Floyd and how he can do the same numbers, be just as popular. Finkel was talking about Floyd numbers too when calling 100 million not enough. The man has had over 40 fights, hes hitting his mid 30's hes even talking retirement but they still talk about the future and being Floyd. Nobody out there other than Floyd Mayweather Jr is Floyd Mayweather Jr yet all these Amerian fighters talk like they are an A side and this that and the other cuz once upon a time there was Floyd Mayweather. Even if said fighter cant even sell 10k in tickets and cant warrant PPV status they still talk like they are something special cuz the market was there for Floyd.

Apparently lying with an agenda helps you sleep at night LOL. That's basically what you have always done. Nothing you say is credible. https://youtu.be/QVWTvINzki4?t=2m32s

Did he apologise? :lol1: Yup. As the title said. Even Spence surely thinks so. @ 2:32 - Errol Spence: "Floyd messed it up for everybody. Now a loss is bad"

One thing to be aware of is that fighters being succesful and taking a path of least resistance has been a part of boxing forever. In the History section Dempsey has been under discussion about this process, joe Calzaghe is another one called out. Floyd has always worked very hard at his craft. I do think there are fighters who do not work so hard and expect success. Again, I don't personally see this as African American, I see it as a consequence of economic class. People who are raised as educated, with great family support, tend to learn through social modelling, etc that working hard is part of success. People who are neglected, not educated about what it takes to succeed have problems. Spadafora is an example of this phenomena. Very talented but sucked under by ignorance and neglect. Tank Gervantes? if he does not leave Baltimore will unfortunately wind up in a similar fashion. both guys do not appear to have the social resources to stay the path, race is irrelevant here. if your a Chechnian in certain areas of Russia one way to earn a great living is to become a contact killer. Is there something about that race that makes that so? or was there a brutal war, young people who learned to accept death easily and who are taught to be ruthless to survive? J prince bankrolled an entire neighborhood... He is also not one to disrespect. Whats stopping someone who wants to succeed looking at him for example? many of the rappers and entrepeuners that came out of Queens know whats up with Prince... But unless someone understands the situation they will look for people who are accesible and understood to learn from. That is not always a good thing is it? And yes fighters are in a phase right now where they want the big fight and the zero. That is just silly, and it has nothing to do with race either. It has to do with a failure to understand the need to work and develop to get better. Promoters are to blame also...Arum is a (0(suker. He took his old @33 and destroyed the rematch between a white and a black fighter. He does not need the money either, but managed to 5hit on boxing fans everywhere, along with these other promoters who are preventing fighters from doing what they should be doing while they can...fight and get better.

Crawford, Spence are the following example of the african american who followed floyd blueprint. Lmao.

I've preached this often while he was in his prime and facing all these matches where the outcomes were obvious. He was so protectant of the "0" as that was a big selling point for him. He plays the bad guy, people want to see him lose his "0". He picks on someone he KNOWS he's going to beat. Sells it up to the casuals, they buy it, he wins, move on to the next. Now the common idea is, get like Floyd. How to do so? Path of least resistance. I almost thought Thurman took a page out of Jr. by staying out of the ring for 2 years (with or without injuries) so that all the current WW can beat each up other, effectively softening each other up for his return so he could easily pick them off, what's left of them. How many times did Jr. retire when the opposition appeared tough or the calling for him to face a particular opponent got him nearly cornered? Easy move, let's retire. Keep that "0" intact, wait until the dust settles, then come back to pick off what's left of the opponents they were calling him to fight.

Am actually going to disagree with the OP, how did Mayweather creates this message? He was opposed to it, he even came out and said boxers wanted more money which doing much these days. Mayweather took a lot of risks from the lower weights up until when he became the man. He didn’t just cherry picked his way through becoming undefeated. He actually worked his socks off to achieve that, those that are following his blueprint are following the last phase of the money Mayweather era, when he has already made it. When he started positioning himself into the money fights. These guys these days don’t want hard fights for even bigger payday, Wilder is the perfect example of that, he is content been protected even now, this is why he would take a lesser payday, against inactive fighters, rather than take on a better challenge for more money. This is why he is content to let a fight marinate because the “Offer would always go higher in the future” That isn’t Mayweather fault. Agreed. In the lower weight classes, ironickly before he fought De La Hoya and became financially successful at that level, he was an incredible fighter. Floyd discovered that he could avoid bigger fighters. Without oversimplifying things lol, and when he got older like most individuals he had to fight up from his original weight class. But at 135ish floyd was spectacular.

Floyd doesnt have a padded record so how is he responsible? Blame the promoters..

Did he apologise? :lol1: Nah. He’s gone in hiding hoping to come back when people forget. That puta.

https://youtu.be/QVWTvINzki4?t=2m32s <— It’s timestamped for you. Now don’t run away. Apologize to me. Did he apologise? :lol1:

one of the stupidest things i have ever read.

Why even waste time with this Ignorant Bullsh#t

What is truly stupid about this thread is it suggests every African American boxer fights the same, which even the dumbest pig f-cking racist should be able to figure out is not true. I also don’t think it’s surprising to see black boxers from America pattern themselves after Floyd. He is a consensus top 15 ATG who crossed over into the mainstream pop culture who also made more money and generated more revenue than any boxer ever. I know this site and this sport doesn’t attract the brightest people but you aren’t going to emulate a loser. Floyd didn’t put the premium on an undefeated record, the networks did. That is because being undefeated is the easiest thing casual fans can understand. So if you are trying to bring in more casual fans from other sports- wether it be team or individual- the easiest thing to market to them is an undefeated record and then power, which is why kos wins are highlighted. We need more intelligent posters on this site.

Boxing lost its luster when they all made it about money. A-side this, A-side that. Being undefeated, etc. Floyd was great before he came to welterweight.

Is that the blue print Tyson Fury following too? Tyson Fury thusfar has had two fights at elite level, Floyd Mayweather was champion since he was 21 years of age, and was consistently fighting at elite level. 'Yes I agree his personality is not for everyone, but boy was he dedicated to boxing' The man lived the life, boxing literally was running through his blood stream 24/7.