I was so happy that Floyd didn't let Victor get away with that dirty sh*t. My only disappointment was that Victor CHOSE not to get up after getting what he deserved.
For those who were mad that they paid for it, I'm not sure what you guys expect. The four rounds, the foul and retaliation, and the post fight were thoroughly entertaining and i loved EVERY bit of it...and at the end of the day that is what you pay for. Hell I would have given Floyd another 60 bucks if i could have.
I love Floyd for his abilities, but lets not kids ourselves. It's not like he takes on all comers. It just so happens that the person he previously shut out is the most talked about in boxing at the moment. Marquez said he'd never fight Floyd again , but if Marquez were game he'd be Floyd's first choice (best combination of risk/reward).
I feel like it's not going to be Guerrero because it would have been announced already. That just leaves Pacquiao and Canelo(which explains the delay). It's definitely going to be one of those 3.
If he asks for a catchweight (because GGG is naturally so much bigger) then he's a fraud, handicapper, "catchweight king" ect...
If he doesn't fight him (because GGG is naturally so much bigger) then he's ducking.
The hate/stupidity is unbelievable around here!
I'd much rather see him fight top dogs at 140, because 147 is probably closer to their natural weight anyway. Whereas fighters at 160 probably have a natural weight of 180...
I disagree with this. The controversy made Pacquiao/Marquez 4 bigger. The publicity it created is advertising on its own. Little wonder Arum's talking about breaking all PPV records with a rematch immediately after the fight.
Even at this point it is borderline delusional to think that a 4th Marquez fight will do better numbers than a Mayweather fight. And while I agree that controversy can be a great selling point, I do not believe that is the case here. The reason being is that most people feel that Marquez was robbed more than once in this trilogy and aren't eager to see another "Bob Arum production".
Arum is a businessman first and foremost...in his mind several cashouts with lesser opponents is greater than one cashout with Mayweather (which he feels he'd be reduced to if mayweather wins)
The truth is that Marquez is the more dangerous business venture. Manny got a controversial win and look what it did to his marketability. Just think if Marquez actually wins next time? A loss to floyd doesn't hurt marketability as much, it sets up a lucrative rematch, and all those other fights are still possible. The fans get what they want and Manny can still do huge numbers until he hangs his gloves up.
Instead, TR has shown they have no problem screwing the fans over to keep their golden goose alive. And as long as we support their every endeavor, why should they? I personally will not buy another TR event unless its the match all the fans want to see.:boxing:
The facts are...
Floyd was in control when the fight was stopped.
Victor blatantly tried to foul Floyd.
Floyd retaliated WITHIN THE RULES.
After Tyson's ear munch and Golota's combinations to the balls I can't think of a worse foul. He's lucky his license wasn't revoked. This dude tried to use a weapon (his head) in a fair fight. If i'm Floyd why do I want to possibly go the distance with an opponent who isn't in his right mind and could do anything? For all who feel cheated place the blame on Ortiz where it belongs. I may be the first to say this but I personally was thoroughly entertained. I would have given Floyd another $65.00 just for not letting him get away with that dirty sh&%....
...And six months later it's still a hot topic.
whats the point of saying this when bhop lost that fight? u dont get credit for losses.
He's using it to validate that BHop fought stiffer comp,and that if Floyd had done the same (i.e. Forest, prime Mosley, or prime Pacquiao) he'd have a loss(es) as well. Like someone else said, Bernard fought every fight you'd want him to (sans Jones II when it mattered) and almost always came out victorious.
There are fights that could really move Floyd up the list though. The tragedy is he already believes he's the greatest ever, so we may never see them. In his defense, Canelo is a great start to turning that around.
Very slight edge to Bernard with Floyd able to leap up significantly in his last 4 or so fights.
If money didnt matter why didn't Manny just take the 40 mil offer to get him in the ring? Win or lose you had a more lucrative rematch and possibly a rubber match on deck. Where's the outdoor stadium they were waiting on? These threads pop up everyday yet the fact still remains that ALL parties are somewhat at fault.
The fight wasn't exciting (from a casual fans point of view)
Floyd won comfortably
Its a logistical nightmare to make
Terms would be less favorable for Manny this time around
Most importantly the public wouldn't gobble a rematch up.
For the reasons above i can't see a rematch happening. Floyd's choice for his next opponent is intriguing though.
I really like this fight. The best stalker vs the best runner. For Lara it will be a good payday and a loss doesn't really change your career. A win catapults him. For GGG it would further validate his skills. I also feel that it would be more competitive than a lot of people here think.
Looking at how Floyd was talking at Manny and how Manny wasn't disputing what Floyd was saying, makes me believe the fighthype story.
The logo on his hoodie is an alternate Louis Vuitton logo...not a flag or TMT gear.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/fashion-and-style/10989393/Why-are-men-turning-to-personal-shoppers.html
1/3 of the way down the page.
This kid is 12 years younger and will outweigh Floyd by AT LEAST 20 lbs on fight night. Floyd fights at his natural weight, Canelo does not. Forget the 2 pounds, Floyd's the man and would have been within his rights to make Canelo come to 147 on general principle (for calling him out). This is the best fight that can be made and people are still whining...unbelievable.
When it comes down to it NEITHER of them REALLY wanted the fight, and the reason is simple economics. Depending on which point of view its from, they're looking at a 60/40 or 40/60 split with each other versus a 90/10 or less split with someone else.
I do agree that the ball is in Floyd's court, but that's because Manny was knocked out and doesn't many lucrative options. I think Floyd will make that his last fight, or the May fight if he needs to strong arm Canelo off the date.
The UFC's pay scale is gonna hurt them in negotiations. No way Floyd gives a 3 million dollar fighter a 75M payday. I'd say Floyd's guarantee will be 100, and McGregor's 40 (with the UFC taking half).
Floyd did contradict himself when he asked Canelo for a catchweight...but so has every other person in the world at some point in time...it's called being human. What, Floyd's not allowed to change his mind?
Either way, It still does not take away from the fact that this is a great fight and will be a huge challenge for both fighters. :boxing:
Word is Maidana Floyd I didn't do so well. I'd say give Cotto a rematch since he's a bigger draw and is more popular right now. Then Maybe Maidana Broner as the B attraction. Then maybe Thurman Mattysee.
Tonight Floyd may have lost a lot of haters (fans) that just pay to see him lose, because now they realize it aint ever happening. Classic example of being too talented for your own good.
If you don't attack he punches you. If you do attack, he makes you miss (spending energy) or counters you...sometimes both. What he does in the ring is truly amazing...even more so considering that he seems more unbeatable now than he did 5-7 years ago.
I try to envision a skillset and gameplan that beat him, but it just seems impossible. It would be like trying to beat someone at chess, but you don't get to make any moves. He will definitely be retiring undefeated.
Miguel did what he was supposed to do and did it very well...But on general principle, i can't give him too much credit for beating the Martinez that showed up. This is why the best need to fight each other when they are in their prime.