Pacquiao's catchweights

[Roadblock]

What was written into his contract?

The fight with Oscar was at 147.

Oscar was a 154 fighter,, that's what makes it a CW, when a guy is contracted to make a lower weight than his usual divisional limits as in Oscar fighting at 154 and 160 for like 10 yrs then he was contracted to 147 it then becomes a CW.

Youre playing with labels instead of the meaning of the label.

[IronDanHamza]

Oscar was a 154 fighter,, that's what makes it a CW, when a guy is contracted to make a lower weight than his usual divisional limits as in Oscar fighting at 154 and 160 for like 10 yrs then he was contracted to 147 it then becomes a CW.

Youre playing with labels instead of the meaning of the label.

Nah a catchweight is just a fight where there's an agreed weight limit between the weight classes.

Oscar moved down in weight and was very drained, sure. But it wasn't a catchweight fight.

Oscar was holding all the cards there too. It was his decision to move down in weight there.

[BodyBagz]

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[Roadblock]

Nah a catchweight is just a fight where there's an agreed weight limit between the weight classes.

Oscar moved down in weight and was very drained, sure. But it wasn't a catchweight fight.

Oscar was holding all the cards there too. It was his decision to move down in weight there.

So a 146 fight is a CW but a 147 isn't and they both WW you see how you gotta have more to it, lol, nah its when a guy is agreeing to fight at a weight outside of his usual division, regardless of the number it is, a divisional limit does not null and void the CW, if agreed to be outside what a guy fights at its a CW. It began in fighting dogs in the 1800s, dogs were very close to the fighting men of the time and many fights man and beast were recorded in the Police Gazette as CW fights, where they agreed to meet at a weight outside of what both parties wanted originally, there was no such thing as divisions it was all pound for pound . the phrase that stuck was Catch Weight, meaning somewhere in the middle, it never had any criteria other than an agreed different weight than was usual for the fighter.

[4truth]

Oscar was at 147 for a Floyd rematch. Floyd retired instead of following through with it leaving Oscar at 147 without a dance partner. It wasn’t like Pac was calling out Oscar and asking him to drop weight.

[IronDanHamza]

So a 146 fight is a CW but a 147 isn't and they both WW you see how you gotta have more to it, lol, nah its when a guy is agreeing to fight at a weight outside of his usual division, regardless of the number it is, a divisional limit does not null and void the CW, if agreed to be outside what a guy fights at its a CW. It began in fighting dogs in the 1800s, dogs were very close to the fighting men of the time and many fights man and beast were recorded in the Police Gazette as CW fights, where they agreed to meet at a weight outside of what both parties wanted originally, there was no such thing as divisions it was all pound for pound . the phrase that stuck was Catch Weight, meaning somewhere in the middle, it never had any criteria other than an agreed different weight than was usual for the fighter.

Yep, precisely.

If the contracted weight was 146 then yes it would have been a Catchweight.

But it wasn't, it was a Welterweight bout at the full 147 lb limit. Meaning it wasn't a Catchweight.

Oscar's fight prior with Stevie Forbes, that was at a Catchweight of 150 lbs.

A guy moving down in weight doesn't make it a Catchweight fight. Andre Ward vs Chad Dawson for example, not a Catchweight.

Mayweather vs Hatton, not a Catchweight.

List goes on.

[Mike_b]

And both say Floyd was the better fighter, you cant have it both ways, if all common opponents state Floyd was a better fighter what does that say to you?

And I feel the reason is that they fought Floyd when they were in better shape, I think lots of guys that fought Mayweather came in some of best shape of their careers, where as with Manny they know he didn't beat a good version of them.

I did not know they said that about Floyd.

[Zaroku]

In slow motion PACMan Knoxked himself out..

meanwhile I was shooting jizz on filipina hoes

[Roadblock]

Yep, precisely.

If the contracted weight was 146 then yes it would have been a Catchweight.

But it wasn't, it was a Welterweight bout at the full 147 lb limit. Meaning it wasn't a Catchweight.

Oscar's fight prior with Stevie Forbes, that was at a Catchweight of 150 lbs.

A guy moving down in weight doesn't make it a Catchweight fight. Andre Ward vs Chad Dawson for example, not a Catchweight.

Mayweather vs Hatton, not a Catchweight.

List goes on.

The sole criteria is for a CW is agreeing to meet outside of what you normally fight at, it has nothing to do with the number you decide to meet at, not in the principle of weight, the agreeing to move from where you are is the mechanism that makes it a CW not the number you decide on.

You are trying to apply a division limit as a weight that cannot be a CW which is ridiculous as far as the fighters are concerned, as I said if a 130 guy fought a 147 guy at 140, its a CW, its not a regular 140 fight between 140 pounders, the divisional limits are not bounds they are just a number, depending on where you come from any number can be a CW as easy as any other number.

[Amir Imam]

What’s more remarkable is Floyd has only fought 2 catchweights his entire career while only fighting 2 fighters coming of losses as well. Canelo has fought in more catchweights than any fighter with 9 catchweights, Pacquiao 4 CW. Floyd fought for 2 vacant titles and Pacquiao fought for 6 vacant titles. Mayweather has fought over 10 fighters who were coming off KO wins that’s also more than Pacquiao 6. Analytics, data, and records prove Floyd fought tougher opponents