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  • Amir Imam
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    #131
    Originally posted by hugh grant

    You can't laugh at Pac s losses, when your idol not beat morales, bradley, horn. In australia. Why don't your idol show us how it's done.?
    Pac is above TBE, and one of the goats, getting knocked out, and losing to fighters in their backyard isn't a barrier to it. If it is show.me where in rule book?
    Pac is above TBE when considering being knocked out 3 times, fighting in more catchweights, fighting more fighters coming off losses and fighting for 8 vacant titles. Those are the only places he’s above TBE lol. He had to fight in Australia because he didn’t pay his taxes in America which ultimately resulted in him running to Floyd/Haymon to save his career. After he lost to Floyd no one cared for him which is why he hasn’t came close to 1M ppvs since. He’s still an ATG though but everything I’m saying is undeniable facts with proof.
    Last edited by Amir Imam; 03-22-2022, 07:07 PM.

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      #132
      Originally posted by Amir Imam

      Too be honest I can laugh at whatever I want too. Pac is above TBE when considering being knocked out 3 times, fighting in more catchweights, fighting more fighters coming off losses and fighting for 8 vacant titles. Those are the only places he’s above TBE lol. He had to fight in Australia because he didn’t pay his taxes in America which ultimately resulted in him running to Floyd/Haymon to save his career. After he lost to Floyd no one cared for him which is why he hasn’t came close to 1M ppvs since. He’s still an ATG though but everything I’m saying is undeniable facts with proof.
      In my rulebook it says You can't become of the goats only fighting in your backyard, not giving biggest rivals of your time rematches to prove in trilogy you can win more than once. Nobody can be best of era, let alone TBE by trying to get every advantage, being overly cautious, ducking so many fights public wanted to see, and never wanting to be underdog to prove to people you're not overated.
      Because it won't come as a surprise to Floyd fans that people think Floyd is overrated even with his unbeaten recird. So Floyd should have been underdog where people think he'd lose and prove to people he was better than you thought.
      Last edited by hugh grant; 03-22-2022, 06:52 PM.

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        #133
        Originally posted by Amir Imam

        Floyd was 39yrs old when GGG issued that weak challenge and how could GGG be a true champ at 154 when he’s never fought in that weight class. Do you even know what you’re talking about? Try again. Facts are facts Manny has never faced a fighter at 154 without requesting advantages. If Oscar and Cotto were shopworn then that just further puts a dent in Pacquiao legacy because he faced a drained Oscar after Floyd did
        - - Yo, Dumir, Manny only fought once at 154 and that was an arranged Arum match with Margarito, U know, the guy TBE TUE ducked in spite of a career purse offer.

        And Manny only fought him in spite of never weighing more than 145 because l'l Floydy was ducking Manny. Thanks for the reminder. U priceless!

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          #134
          Originally posted by QueensburyRules

          - - Yo, Dumir, Manny only fought once at 154 and that was an arranged Arum match with Margarito, U know, the guy TBE TUE ducked in spite of a career purse offer.

          And Manny only fought him in spite of never weighing more than 145 because l'l Floydy was ducking Manny. Thanks for the reminder. U priceless!
          I know I’ve already said this.All of his fights were arranged by Arum considering Arum was his boss. What’s your point? Nothing you wrote is relevant to the conversation. He fought him because he seen an easy chance to win a fake belt. Floyd doesn’t fight for vacant belts

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            #135
            Originally posted by hugh grant

            In my rulebook it says You can't become of the goats only fighting in your backyard, not giving biggest rivals of your time rematches to prove in trilogy you can win more than once. Nobody can be best of era, let alone TBE by trying to get every advantage, being overly cautious, ducking so many fights public wanted to see, and never wanting to be underdog to prove to people you're not overated.
            Because it won't come as a surprise to Floyd fans that people think Floyd is overrated even with his unbeaten recird. So Floyd should have been underdog where people think he'd lose and prove people he was deserving of praise
            Show me some of your credentials/achievements that would make your “rule book” credible. You can say whatever you want in your imaginary book it still won’t change the facts or records. FM was an underdog several times in his career but I wouldn’t expect a Pacquiao fan to know that, you guys are in last place when it comes to boxing knowledge.

            Pacquio fought

            for more vacant titles
            more catchweights
            more fighters coming off losses
            less fighters coming off KO wins
            Never faced a 154 champion at the full weight


            All the data undeniably proves Pacquiao was the one who was “overly cautious”. He couldn’t even face an over the hill ran down Oscar at a respectable weight.

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            • hugh grant
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              #136
              Originally posted by Amir Imam

              Show me some of your credentials/achievements that would make your “rule book” credible. You can say whatever you want in your imaginary book it still won’t change the facts or records. FM was an underdog several times in his career but I wouldn’t expect a Pacquiao fan to know that, you guys are in last place when it comes to boxing knowledge.

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              Pac is Floyd s best win that tells us all we need to know. Being underdog at tail end of career is the important part, the business end. So what if people underestimāted Floyd at beginning.? Floyd co asted was on autopilot for later part of career. Being unbeaten was all that mattered with cws with no rematches in opponents backyard and cherrypicking
              Last edited by hugh grant; 03-22-2022, 07:38 PM.

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