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  • Roadblock
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    #61
    Originally posted by QueensburyRules

    - - Manny on a few weeks notice moved up two divisions to save the same year long promotion after l'l Floydy melted like a snowcone dropped on a summer sidewalk.

    Truth hurts U candies then and now and forever more.
    What are you rambling about now lol, a few week's notice lol tell me some more BS, the fight was known since before Oscar looked like sht fighting Steve Forbes at 150lbs, that fight was getting him ready for 147, Steve Forbes would have beat the crap out of the Oscar that Manny fought.

    Manny is such a scammer and his fanboys are super gullible.

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      #62
      Originally posted by Roadblock

      Im not debating that CWs have always been in boxing I don't like them because always takes something away from the guy having to come down, the guy going up gets a boost in strength and power, I'm debating the merit of some wins against CWed opponents, a CW can hurt you badly or not at all, or anywhere in between it depends on so many things with the individual case.

      The biggest red flag with Manny was Cotto, refusing to fight him without a CW twice, the second time he called Cotto out for his 154 title, if ever you were going to move up for a title what easier path than a guy you already beat up, not for Manny he refused and that spells only one reason he doesn't believe he can beat Cotto without a CW that drains him.
      - - U was in diapers then but when U out of them, if ever?

      Cotto was 146 vs Clottey who mullered him badly. Manny pitched a Clottey shutout, and Clottey one of many l'l Floydy ducked.

      Anyway, the fight was signed at full weight with Cotto, but Manny offered a 300-400k bonus if he came in 1 lb below his last fight. Cotto knowing he fighting a smaller quicker guy maybe thinks Manny paying him to be quicker/lighter for this fight and jumps on free money.

      As to takes something away from the guy having to come down, the guy going up gets a boost in strength and power. Geez, dumbest thing I've seen proof of in a long time. All the divisions are catchweight fights historically...duh, but U can't even drool out a DUH without drowning.

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        #63
        Originally posted by QueensburyRules

        - - U was in diapers then but when U out of them, if ever?

        Cotto was 146 vs Clottey who mullered him badly. Manny pitched a Clottey shutout, and Clottey one of many l'l Floydy ducked.

        Anyway, the fight was signed at full weight with Cotto, but Manny offered a 300-400k bonus if he came in 1 lb below his last fight. Cotto knowing he fighting a smaller quicker guy maybe thinks Manny paying him to be quicker/lighter for this fight and jumps on free money.

        As to takes something away from the guy having to come down, the guy going up gets a boost in strength and power. Geez, dumbest thing I've seen proof of in a long time. All the divisions are catchweight fights historically...duh, but U can't even drool out a DUH without drowning.
        Speak English kid I cant understand what the fck you are on about, you just talk BS made up as you go along, Manny wanted 143.

        " Meanwhile, news out of the Philippines today is that Freddie Roach wants Cotto to come all the way down to 143, and in fact, the direct quote from Roach is, "The lower I can get (Cotto), the better."

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        "I spoke with Bob and I told him I want it at 143-pounds," Roach told the Manila Bulletin-Tempo . "The lower I can get him (Cotto), the better. Cotto is still a great fighter. Very strong, and very dangerous. He’s a champion. No way (he’s past his prime). (Manny’s going to have a) hard, hard fight."

        If trainer Freddie Roach sticks to his demand, a fight between Manny Pacquiao and Miguel Cotto could collapse. Roach wants Cotto to come down to a catch-weight of 143-pounds for a fight with Pacquiao. Cotto's nutritionist told Top Rank's Bob Arum, who promotes both fighters, that Miguel could only make a "safe" weight of 144 to 145-pounds at most. The Cotto camp would rather have it at 145. Roach wants to get Cotto down as low as possible.


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        • QueensburyRules
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          #64
          Originally posted by Roadblock

          Speak English kid I cant understand what the fck you are on about, you just talk BS made up as you go along, Manny wanted 143.

          " Meanwhile, news out of the Philippines today is that Freddie Roach wants Cotto to come all the way down to 143, and in fact, the direct quote from Roach is, "The lower I can get (Cotto), the better."

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          "I spoke with Bob and I told him I want it at 143-pounds," Roach told the Manila Bulletin-Tempo . "The lower I can get him (Cotto), the better. Cotto is still a great fighter. Very strong, and very dangerous. He’s a champion. No way (he’s past his prime). (Manny’s going to have a) hard, hard fight."

          If trainer Freddie Roach sticks to his demand, a fight between Manny Pacquiao and Miguel Cotto could collapse. Roach wants Cotto to come down to a catch-weight of 143-pounds for a fight with Pacquiao. Cotto's nutritionist told Top Rank's Bob Arum, who promotes both fighters, that Miguel could only make a "safe" weight of 144 to 145-pounds at most. The Cotto camp would rather have it at 145. Roach wants to get Cotto down as low as possible.

          - - ol' shaky Freddie ain't Manny, and that ain't the contract Cotto and Manny signed...DUH

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            #65
            Originally posted by QueensburyRules

            - - ol' shaky Freddie ain't Manny, and that ain't the contract Cotto and Manny signed...DUH
            That was your comeback to your lies being exposed lol

            tell me something will you Im curious, if you put you back to the wall and lean your head back I bet your ears touch the wall at the same time, Im right ain't I ?

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              #66
              The Oscar fight wasn't a catchweight. It was just a cherrypick that went horribly wrong. Oscar was the A-side in that fight. Remember, Manny just came off of fighting David Diaz at 135. Manny was also the #1 P4P guy at the time because Floyd retired the year before. I remember Filipino politicians who wanted Bob Arum to cancel the fight because they were afraid of Manny getting hurt.

              As for the other catchweights? Cotto, Margarito, Algieri, etc. Didn't like those but Pacquiao was the A-side in those bouts.

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                #67
                Pac is supposed to be great.
                Catchweights are supposed to be bad
                Pac is the CW King

                May beating a much younger Nelo at a lighter weight is bad
                Pac would never have fought that version of Nelo
                Not without a few *'s
                If Nelo agreed to a fight with Pac at 144 and Pac kills him
                Pac would be ranked above SRR

                ''No one beat up DLH like Pac did !!!''

                SMDH......

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                  #68
                  Floyd is king of cw, ruthless, calculated and clinical; no chance of getting rematch against floyd to avenge loss? If you do use cws in the way floyd did, you will have to make amends for it, and make up for using a cw, ask boxing fans for forgiveness. Floyd retiring asap wasn't the way to go about getting forgiveness, if anything you will be severely penalised for it like Floyd is.

                  Floyd wanted no adversity after that cw, retired ASAP, bi tch move. Sabotaged legacy fight, doesn't know meaning of going out on shield, cherrypicked right to the end,
                  Whilst Pac fights another 12 years re writing record books and tearing up script in process, so ye's all is forgiven for Pac, and in actual fact apologies should be offered to Pac and compensatiion given to Pac for going above and beyond.
                  Last edited by hugh grant; 03-21-2022, 03:34 PM.

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                  • hectari
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Roadblock

                    Oscar was a 154 fighter,, that's what makes it a CW, when a guy is contracted to make a lower weight than his usual divisional limits as in Oscar fighting at 154 and 160 for like 10 yrs then he was contracted to 147 it then becomes a CW.

                    Youre playing with labels instead of the meaning of the label.
                    You are using revisionist history

                    who called who out? Oscar called pacquiao out and Pacman had to go up to 147 to fight him, so toss that out too, you are the one rambling. Why do you hate oacauiao so much did you used to work at wild card and were screwed over?

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Roadblock

                      Speak English kid I cant understand what the fck you are on about, you just talk BS made up as you go along, Manny wanted 143.

                      " Meanwhile, news out of the Philippines today is that Freddie Roach wants Cotto to come all the way down to 143, and in fact, the direct quote from Roach is, "The lower I can get (Cotto), the better."

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                      "I spoke with Bob and I told him I want it at 143-pounds," Roach told the Manila Bulletin-Tempo . "The lower I can get him (Cotto), the better. Cotto is still a great fighter. Very strong, and very dangerous. He’s a champion. No way (he’s past his prime). (Manny’s going to have a) hard, hard fight."

                      If trainer Freddie Roach sticks to his demand, a fight between Manny Pacquiao and Miguel Cotto could collapse. Roach wants Cotto to come down to a catch-weight of 143-pounds for a fight with Pacquiao. Cotto's nutritionist told Top Rank's Bob Arum, who promotes both fighters, that Miguel could only make a "safe" weight of 144 to 145-pounds at most. The Cotto camp would rather have it at 145. Roach wants to get Cotto down as low as possible.

                      You told the guy he is making up bs than say Manny wanted 143 but show articles were its freddie roach demanding 143 not manny, you would lose in a court of law with that.

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