Tunney Versus jack Johnson who wins and why

[QueensburyRules]

Johnson was known to be very physically strong... Apparently his dad was not big, but very well built and I read somewhere that his dad taught him how to take care of his physical health. Johnson did have a bit of a brutal streak lol....

I think both guys were ahead of their time... Tunney knew how to use elements of both systems of fighting, classical and preclassical... and Johnson developed proficiency with a jab when the lead was still the front hand punch, Johnson had incredible parries, and had faster feet than Tunney... though this last one is close.

- - JJ a footwork lug. Tunney through Corbett were the proto-precursors to young Ali.

[travestyny]

- - Tu confuso, Ay Chihuahau!

We know JJ has a poor record against prime contenders not to mention having barely fought any.

A poor record against prime contenders?

Do tell us. What is his record against prime contenders?

False. How many times has Johnson himself lost in his prime? Stay out of the bottle, Queenie.

[travestyny]

Sure you were. His opinions are not mine. Your just plain confused. Bump the question in your bogus CRT theory thread, I have reply of you.

One of these days I'm going to teach you the difference between "your" and You're."

It took you what...a month to come up with an answer? This better be good


By the way, why don't you answer the question that is relevant to this section. What do you have of Wills that isn't already out there. Like you alluded to having. Or were you being deceitful because you don't have anything. Let's get to the bottom of that, shall we?

[billeau2]

- - JJ a footwork lug. Tunney through Corbett were the proto-precursors to young Ali.

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I do not know who has faster feet... More than a few things to consider.

[QueensburyRules]

A poor record against prime contenders?

Do tell us. What is his record against prime contenders?

False. How many times has Johnson himself lost in his prime? Stay out of the bottle, Queenie.

- - U first with a list of prime heavyweight contenders he beat. We know Burns and we know he ducked that lucrative rematch.

Stay tuned, boys, this gonna get good!!!

[travestyny]

- - U first with a list of prime heavyweight contenders he beat. We know Burns and we know he ducked that lucrative rematch.

Stay tuned, boys, this gonna get good!!!

You said he had a poor record against prime fighters. That's for you to prove.

So what was his record against these prime fighters. Don't try to shift your argument to me. It's your argument and now you seem shy.

[JAB5239]

- - U first with a list of prime heavyweight contenders he beat. We know Burns and we know he ducked that lucrative rematch.

Stay tuned, boys, this gonna get good!!!

Why would he even need to rematch Burns? It was a whitewash, no pun intended, not competitive at all.

[Willie Pep 229]

Why would he even need to rematch Burns? It was a whitewash, no pun intended, not competitive at all.

Considering Burns could have ignored JJ and had it gone unchallenged - I think he owed Burns a rematch (a last big payday). Especially since you agree it wouldn't have been a tough fight.

As always we, you and I, once again disagree on the premise of the game. To you it's professional boxing and all the contemporary definitions that conjures, i.e. you always want to define boxing as a 'sport.' I say it's not. I say it was prize fighting and there were contemporaneous traditions, protocols, and politics that affected every fight.

He owed Burns the respect of a rematch, one last payday. No Tommy Burns and we wouldn't t be talking JJ today.

[QueensburyRules]

Why would he even need to rematch Burns? It was a whitewash, no pun intended, not competitive at all.

- - Burns was the aggressor. If not for him, there would be no points to score and you don't know what the score was.

Only thing whitewashed was you.

[cfang]

This is an interesting match up. Reason being they are quite close in eras but look a million miles apart. Tunney like a modern boxer and Johnson like someone from the dark ages. In terms of a winner though I favour Johnson. He’s bigger, stronger and will probably be talented enough to find a way. Gene has a big ? As he mostly beat lt heavy’s and no black fighters.