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[Willie Pep 229]

I like to look at the ATG's run-ups to their title shot. Some are extraordinary, E.g. Tyson, Dempsey, Liston, etc.

Liston's run begins with Cleveland Williams in the spring of 1959 and runs until Paterson in the fall of 1962. 12 wins, 11 by KO with only Eddie Machen taking him the 12 round...

[Willie Pep 229]

Who thinks he meant Jersey Joe and not Barbados Joe Walcott?

Good post. Thanks!...

[Willie Pep 229]

Good question? Why no Vitali?

I pretty much lost enbracement of the fight game after the 2000s started so I can speak as a casual on this topic.

As a casual I don't remember a 'big fight' being held; I didn't see any consensus around me about the man.

Even though...

[Willie Pep 229]

But who is actually saying Pac Man - Bradley started a new lineage?

Isn't it a SB and the mediia?

Anyway you certainly don't think it did, and in the end you'll probably be remembered as correct.

That's the beauty of the lineal title. We decide not the SBs or...

[Willie Pep 229]

After his conviction, but out on bond awaiting appeal, Muhammad Ali found that he couldn't get a State Commission to licence him because he was a convicted felon.

Unlike the romantic stories of men coming out of prison, using boxing to turn their lives around. Ali had not yet served his...

[Willie Pep 229]

OK . . . First the roids.

The lineal title would not concern itself with PEDs That would be a commission decision. If a state commission sanctions a fight, it's a fight.

If they strip him of the win post fight, then from the lineal perspective it would be a NC.

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[Willie Pep 229]

Sometimes I think Rap Music is driven more by 'mic wars' (like professional wrestling is) than it is, by performance....

[Willie Pep 229]

He was champion after the snooze fest with Wald. He sat, his out of shape azz, on the title while Joshua positioned himself for a mega fight.

Fury finally made himself available but AJ stumbled against Ruiz throwing the timeline out of wack.

Fury fought Wilder one time too...

[Willie Pep 229]

I saw an ice bag in his gear, but no Enswell, not yet I guess (circa 1950). His second probably has a half dollar in his pocket. *

Bobby James was a strawman; in the middle of a serious losing streak.

Cartier fought all over New York including several 10 rounders. Likely on...

[Willie Pep 229]

I have seen Money speak but a few times.

Exclusively on HBO post fights interviews with Larry Merchant.

Mayweather always seemed angry, arrogant, and distrustful.

But IMO the failure lay with Merchant. He was, as he always was, as interesting as dry white toast....

[Willie Pep 229]

Yeah. Exactly, that's the way it has played out.

To understand the lineal title you have to know boxing. You have to understand the logic, the unwritten rules, the precedents.

But because this takes actual knowledge, of the fight game's history, casuals will gravitate towards...

[Willie Pep 229]

If one wants to know what the populous thought of Muhammad Ali and his resistance to the 'draft,' just tract the opinion polls: "Do you approve of the President's handling of the war in Vietnam?"

They are (almost) perfectly inverse.

In 1967 Ali was a coward.
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[Willie Pep 229]

No one was talking the WBC in 1970-71.

The way it went . . .

The NYSAC recognized the Buster Mathis-Joe Frazier fight for their vacant title. (March 1968)

The WBA Tournament ended with Jimmy Ellis winning a snoozer against Jerry Quarry. (April 1968)

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[Willie Pep 229]

Ali's comeback fight against Jerry Quarry (KO3) was scheduled for 15 rounds, as was the Bonavena fight.

If Ali had beaten Frazier the first time out I suspect that Quarry (1) and Bonavena would both be listed as title defenses today.

So goes the history of the lineal title...

[Willie Pep 229]

I know nothing about these men's lives post boxing. Their largeness, their politics, their entrepreneurship, are all way past me.

Now speaking from within the ring . . .

. . . Jimmy Braddock did the most for poor people. *

. . . Joe Louis did the most for racial...

[Willie Pep 229]

Never saw that.

A little bit true a little be Trump.

Of course it was a hundred different things that brought it down....

[Willie Pep 229]

Rocky was a great film. One of the top boxing films made.

It would be better remembered, i.e. respected today, had there never been a sequel...

[Willie Pep 229]

This photo of Johnson reminds me of the oft seen photo of Tunney-Greb 1.

Tunney looks too thin for his body and you can see that he needed a couple of years to completely fill out.

That's what I think I see in Johnson above. He is not yet the man he would become.
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[Willie Pep 229]

I remember KO Magazine discussing how long Michael Moorer would be champion. No one could see him lasting less than five years. There seemed no one on the horizon could beat him.

[Willie Pep 229]

Re Bold: Good work if you can get it.

Mayweather got it. It does shit for his legacy but boy he made the bucks.

It's called prize fighting.

I can't blame him for working the system to his advantage.

My complaint still lies in his refusal to bring his...