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[Willie Pep 229]

Yea and he beat Moore three times: UD (10), MD, (10) and KO (8)

Do you know why their 1948 fight was scheduled for 15 rounds? There is no mention by Boxrec of a title go....

[Willie Pep 229]

I watched your video. That was NOT an unbias evaluation. It seems all of Lopez's punches were "grazing" and Loma's are "beautiful" -- besides almost all of this video is about the head butt - and this guy trys to convince us that if the ref didn't stop the action for the headbutt...

[Willie Pep 229]

Goid post - Yea - watch the last minute and even the announcers agree - Lopez was making a big move - terms like 'best punch' - 'hurt' - 'momentum' (interrupted with the gash) are used....

[Willie Pep 229]

Maybe the gash angered him or just finishing strong. But IMO had there been another minute to go I think he would have imposed himself on Loma right then. Teo was on him and I thought Loma was one clean punch away from being in trouble....

[Willie Pep 229]

The Nonpareil is wonderful so very 19th century - you think the drink is that old?...

[Willie Pep 229]

Yes the 11th was Loma's biggest round- the gash on Lopez was a butt....

[Willie Pep 229]

Yea see. . . . it sounds rugged . . . Say Captain Hook and I see a slightly effeminate pirate, e.g. Dustin Hoffman; Cyril Ritchard. Can't get past the Peter Pan image.

If The boilermaker doesn't get you there how about Mysterious Billy Smith.

Come on you did say 'best ever'...

[Willie Pep 229]

Really? Seems unimaginative.

The Boilermaker - now there's a nickname you can write home about.. I wonder what the hell it meant circa 1905. Doesn't mean s-hit to me today.

Can we call Mayweather Jr. 'Peter Pan'? - he tended to fly about the ring so.

P.S. If it...

[Willie Pep 229]

The Pep-Robinson amateur fight might be a great place to begin the film.

A rural venue (I believe described as a barn by Pep) with a small ruckus crowd pushed up onto the ring apron, with young boys actually straddled across the rafters, watching a skinny black kid and a small Italian kid...

[Willie Pep 229]

I wonder how they will handle the Lulu Perez tank job; will they choose to touch on it.

With Pep gone there is no fear of a libel suit but will they go 'history as it should of been' or 'history as it was.'

Worst yet, will they do a 'Max Baer' job on Saddler so they can have...

[Willie Pep 229]

25 round no decision fights is the only true measure of a champion.

Boxing is a martial art deployed to win a prize fight, not meant to be an end unto itself.

The game is being degraded by the increasing emphasis placed on boxing technique over actual fighting. Worst yet...

[Willie Pep 229]

Two guys who shouldn't be fighting, way past their fighting prime, shouldn't be noted as an extraordinary event, whether it be Nelson-Fenech or Bowe-Holyfield.

If this is what it takes for two HOFers to meet in the ring, maybe HOFers shouldn't meet in the ring....

[Willie Pep 229]

I don't, in anyway want to suggest that the racism you are alluding to wasn't there, it certainly was, but I think your comparison to the 'Hispanic and Oriental titles is a bit off. Those type of titles tended to denote regional titles not necessarily racial ones, (much like the North American title...

[Willie Pep 229]

I don't agree but we both made our points.

I would like to add that in the second fight (which Leonard has graciously stated several times that he thought "Tommy won that fight") I felt that Hearns barely survived the 12th (and final) round. My gut feeling was, had there been...

[Willie Pep 229]

Yea the 1971 fight poster reads Cassius Clay and in smaller font aka "Muhammad Ali"

But The Ring could have made the move to Ali earlier, the magazine sales weren't dependent on recognizing his name. They coukd have educated the populace....

[Willie Pep 229]

I got to tell you, your reply didn't scratch the itch. Dehydration is a 24 hour problem and day-before weighins negate the problem..

The phrase 'target training' is vague and leaves me as ignorant coming out as I was going in.

I still don't get the phrase 'over trained' when...

[Willie Pep 229]

You made a comment in an earlier post about Sullivan claiming a world champion after drawing with Charlie Mitchell. A fair point.

It got me thinking about the power of 'belts' - literally the belt itself.

There is an irony to Sullivan's title claim, that is: the first recognized...

[Willie Pep 229]

The fight was a split draw after two rounds and ended on a knee injury.

The guy (Glazkov) was 21-0-1 at the time. Doesn't seem to be a ham and egger to me, who couldn't pass a physical, he seems a site more than that.

But I don't think Martin deserves the international praise...

[Willie Pep 229]

I never understood that term "over trained" - how do you define it?

I realize (as much as I can understand as a high school wrestler) that you can reached an emotional/mental peak and then delay can snatch the moment away - how you can go into a match not as mentally sharp as...

[Willie Pep 229]

Besides Taylor never let's go of the ropes - people usually don't notice it but he needed to hold on to it to maintain his balance.

A knocked down fighters needs to present himself to the ref; usually identifying that he is able to continue by putting his hands up.

Taylor couldn't...