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JAB5239
JAB5239
JAB5239
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  • You keep bring up Eastern Europeans. What was an Eastern European amateur in the 40's gonna do against the likes of Robinson and Louis? These guys fought and beat the best professional fighter the world had to offer over and over. Have you actually watched Eastern European fighters from back then? Most,...
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  • Amateur at middle is 168, at least that is what it was back then. So je starts there
    obviously outgrows it I'm a few years. Lightheavy 175, than cruiser. Byrd was never a heavyweight by today's standards. Bit he was successful . Thats what drives me nuts about the size mongers. I'd Byrd was...
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  • After fighting so long at heavy it was a stupid move. But he most likely would have stayed at 168 a couple years, outgrown it and went to 175 for another 7 or 8 years and topped out at cruiser to end his career. That he was successful at heavyweight can either be a testament to how good he was....how...
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  • Bottom line....Louis never quit, Vits did. And if Louis was so easy and predictable than why didn't Schmeling win the rematch, or anyone else best him for a dozen more years? And everyone knows Louis got a big head and trained on the golf course the first Schmeling fight. He deserved to lose, but it...
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  • About 35llbs heavier than he should have actually been fighting at, and about 35lbs less than Vits. And he still made Vits quit. That is something the great Joe Louis would never do....
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    started a topic George Foreman movie

    George Foreman movie

    Just saw the trailer for the new George Foreman movie coming in April. Looks decent, hopefully it will be one of the better boxing movies.

    https://youtu.be/yomih-Ta8w0
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  • Hearns is all wrong for Floyd and stops him early.

    Duran to busy and slick. He breaks Floyd down for a late stoppage.

    Leonard wins this fight, ut by decision. I don't think this would be a very exciting fight.

    Whitaker and Floyd put on a stinker. But Pernell is...
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  • Flat out quit against a guy he had a 6" height advantage, 35lbs in weight, and who came in the fight on two weeks notice halfway across the world. Than if that's not bad enough, he never sought to rematch him. Louis, in his close fights gave rematches. Louis never quit against anyone....
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  • I just rewatched the first fight. Norris certainly fouled Santana, but to me it didn't look intentional, nor was it a hard punch. Santana should be ashamed for his hatchet acting job. What I'm not clear on is how this became a disqualification. At one point Halperin, who I believe knew Santana was faking...
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  • And how many were black? He's giving Louis grief over not fighting certain opponents, yet isn't taking into consideration the amount of rated contenders he did fight. In fact, Louis fought more rated contenders than Vits Klitschko didn't fight, and that's a lot! Louis in my opinion is the greatest heavyweight...
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  • I vaguely remember these fights. What I remember is the bad acting by Santana to get out of the beatings he was getting. Was there more fouling beforehand? I don't recall. What I do know is Norris, for all his faults was miles ahead in skills....
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  • JAB5239
    replied to Top 10 P4P ever in terms of H2H
    You walking and quacking like a duck, that's how I know you're ducking the facts! ...
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  • JAB5239
    replied to Top 10 P4P ever in terms of H2H
    Still waiting on that answer as to why the announcer never brought up a delay in the Al-Cooper fight. I see you conveniently ducked out of that thread. ...
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  • Lol, that is SO bad!! ...
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  • That dope is on YouTube? It must have been a howler!! ...
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  • JAB5239
    replied to Top 10 P4P ever in terms of H2H
    Nah, you're just showing another double standard....
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  • JAB5239
    replied to Top 10 P4P ever in terms of H2H
    You would think Klitschko, Loma and Usyk would do the same, yet you praised them as heroes for going back to the Ukraine. What's the difference for Berto?...
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