Tunney Versus jack Johnson who wins and why

[Dr. Z]

He asked you first for a list of prime contenders heavyweight contenders beat. Go ahead and list who he fought at heavyweights at their prime. The list will be a short one. It shouldn't be hard a request. I would argue the heavyweight contenders that Johnson lost to were better than the prime heavyweight contenders than he beat!

Willard, Hart, Choynski and Griffin, were to fighters he lost to...at least the names ones and not all of them were in their prime.

Ouch.


PS: I listed four heavyweights near their prime which he lost to! I proved his point. Now you are up. Name the prime heavyweights that he beat.

The question is extended to the bigoted Ivich.

[Ivich]

This is your typical lie. Burns did not win a single round against Johnson??? 1 ) See round three. 2 ) Show me a source that says Johnson won all the round! The Burns book clearly give round three to Burns. Do I need to show it to you again? Your dishonesty is sicking. Aren't masons supposed to be honest?

Why dont you spend some of your energy learning to read and write properly? It's quite sicking trying to decipher your posts!lol

Round 3
The Morning Herald. this was the only round in which Burns made any kid of showing and regarded without prejudice it cannot be denied that even in this round, the third round ,Johnson was ahead on points.

The Referee.There were several solid punches in this round,and the brave white skinned fighter received much more than a fair share of them.
The Bulletin .Johnson defended his stomach and avoided uppercuts with the greatest ease. A more onesided struggle it would be impossible to,imagine . Burns was plucky as a lion,but Johnson was as strong as a locomotive.
The only bright feature was how heroically Burns took his smashing and came in again and again.
Tom's face was in a very bad way.His mouth was bleeding,his cheek beginning to swell,his eyes growing puffy.
he made no impression on Johnson who occasionally stood still ,with his hands down,talking and jeering at Burns.
Now you produce three ringside reports that refute these three okay?

[GhostofDempsey]

I posted Boxrecs contemporary reports and I told you they fought FOUR TIMES and that Ross won the FIRST THREE FIGHTS and Cotton won the FOURTH AND LAST FIGHT
There fights took place on
1st 27th Sep 1910
2nd 30th Jan 1911
3rd 4th Nov1911
4th 6th Jan 1912
Now either you're ******, or you can't count?
I never said or suggested Ross was ever a world beater ,yet again you are arguing against points that have not been made! Do you have learning disabilities?

Regardless, He lost to Cotton in their final encounter, he also KO’d Wills that same year. Johnson fought once in 1912 and didn’t fight again for over a year where he got roughed up by Battling Jim for $1,000.

[Ivich]

Regardless, He lost to Cotton in their final encounter, he also KO’d Wills that same year. Johnson fought once in 1912 and didn’t fight again for over a year where he got roughed up by Battling Jim for $1,000.

So do you now admit Ross won the first three of their fights and Cotton won the 4th?
Id like to see you type that here in print!
Something along the lines of ,I was wrong they did fight 4 times, and Cotton lost the first three!
Do you think you could manage to admit that?

[Ivich]

Was he the first black champion? That depends, Peter Jackson won the World British title in the 1890's. He faced the color line form Sullivan but fought the mostly the best fighter around.


Jim Corbett says he was better than Jack Johnson as does legendary referee George Siler who saw and refereed many of the fighters of the times. He called Peter Jackson " the best black fighter by long odds ", meaning there was a distance between Jackson and Johnson.

Jackson won the British Empire Title not the World title Siler died before Johnson won the title so he never saw any of his title fights.I told you this before!
Corbett named Johnson as the cleverest heavyweight he ever saw, the quote is in Pollacks book.

[Ivich]

The question is extended to the bigoted Ivich.

I think
Kaufman was in his prime. he was considered one of the leading contenders when they met.
Childs was a claimant for the Colored Title when Johnson beat him,he was prime.
Moran was prime and a leading contender.

Martin was the Colored champ and prime
Flynn was a leading contender and was prime.
Ditto Ferguson.

[QueensburyRules]

You're an idiot.

Jack London, the famous novelist, was in Sydney covering the fight for the New York Herald. He wrote: "The fight? There was no fight. No Armenian massacre could compare with the hopeless slaughter that took place today.

- - London was a fiction author prone to hyperventilation and grandiosity. The fight was stopped by the police based on JJ seconds crawling under the ring screaming and crying to stop the fight.

Does you buy new shoes ever time you step into it?

Watch the fight...

[Ivich]

- - London was a fiction author prone to hyperventilation and grandiosity. The fight was stopped by the police based on JJ seconds crawling under the ring screaming and crying to stop the fight.

Does you buy new shoes ever time you step into it?

Watch the fight...

Do you really believe this?
Let's look at it logically for a moment.
Burns did not win a round against Johnson ,so why would Johnson's seconds want the fight stopped?
What would be their motive?
Do you think it is feasible that Johnson's seconds left his corner and, in full view of a section of the audience crawled under the ring and began shouting and screaming so that the police could hear them, and they would then invade the ring and stop the fight? Just think about this before you humiliate yourself further!
Burns was saved by the bell in the 13th round,knocked down for 8 in the 14th and helpless ,his face dreadfully out of shape,when he arose, whereupon the police stepped in and stopped the slaughter.

[JAB5239]

- - London was a fiction author prone to hyperventilation and grandiosity. The fight was stopped by the police based on JJ seconds crawling under the ring screaming and crying to stop the fight.

Does you buy new shoes ever time you step into it?

Watch the fight...

So it was t stopped becuse it was a one sided Massacre? Like I said, you're an idiot. Why would the cops stop the fight because of yelling from under the ring if it was competitive? Geez, you get ******er and ******er by the day.

[travestyny]

He asked you first for a list of prime contenders heavyweight contenders beat. Go ahead and list who he fought at heavyweights at their prime. The list will be a short one. It shouldn't be hard a request. I would argue the heavyweight contenders that Johnson lost to were better than the prime heavyweight contenders hat he beat!

Willard, Hart, Choynski and Griffin, were to fighters he lost to...at least the names ones and not all of them were in their prime.

Ouch.


PS: I listed four heavyweights near their prime which he lost to! I proved his point. Now you are up. Name the prime heavyweights that he beat.

No he didn't ask me for anything first. He claimed that Johnson's record against prime fighters was poor. I asked him to prove it and he's ducking like you duck in the CRT thread.


Ouch.


Johnson wasn't Prime in those fights himself. Stop making a fool of yourself. You still upset that he ran over your boy Jeffries, huh?


Did you admit to yourself that Jeffries said he could never beat Johnson? I bet you cried yourself to sleep when you found out that wasn't made up, huh