He's one of those rare HW talents that's good enough to fight for a title by his 15-20th fight.
I just hope they don't rush him.
It's two fights in, but he looked good as an amateur.
Him and Andy Ruiz Jr. are the future.
AND Bryant Jennings :boxing:
Mayweather-Cotto wasn't any less of a schooling, breth. If Alvarez was as big of an underdog as Cotto was, I'm sure we'd have had a fair few people claiming that CJ Ross's scorecard was the only legitimate one of the three.
Cotto-Mayweather was WAY more competitive and Cotto legitimately won at least 4 rounds in that fight. He did what Canelo was supposed to do and used his jab, pressured floyd and fought his heart out. i don't know how you can say it was any less of a schooling when Cotto performed INFINITELY better than Canelo and actually bloodied Floyd.
WAR Maidana!!!!!!!!!!! El ChINO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Maidana will stop him. People who say otherwise haven't been paying attention to WARdanas progression.
great point. Maidana has improved IMMENSELY under Garcia's training. He actually has defense and a very good jab. I pick him to KO Broner.
It's not really mind-boggling.. The ideal time for the fight has passed, there is no real desire for this fight to happen anymore. After Pac got knocked out the appeal for the fight went down even more. The hype is gone.
Threads like these make me sick yo.
He isn't TBE.. Plain and simple. There's a few reasons I think he can't be "TBE":
1. Has ducked multiple fighters:
Pacquiao*
Paul Williams(!)
Antonio Margarito(?)
Prime Miguel Cotto, waited till he was faded
2. Level of opposition isn't comparable to the other ALL TIME GREATS... You don't have to go far, IMO Pernell Whitaker faced better opposition and he looks just as good as Floyd. Muhammad Ali avenged all of his defeats (when he was able) and when he was past his prime, fought better opposition than Floyd. Ray Leonard's opposition was nuts. Henry Armstrong's level of opposition was insane.
There's more but I'll leave it at that. Floyd is not the greatest. NO F*cking way.
Which WW would be favourite to beat Porter?
Mayweather, Pacquaio, Bradley and maybe even Marquez.
Most certainly would not pick Marquez or Bradley over Porter bruh. Porter is the truth. Marquez would find himself in a firefight and I don't think he has it in him at this stage. Bradley wouldn't have the firepower to keep Porter at bay, he wouldn't be able to move enough to avoid Porter and he sure as hell isn't beating Porter toe to toe. Porter bangs on Bradley.
Stop spamming and self promoting. There is a BIG thread up top about the card where everyone is expressing their thoughts, yours isnt anymore special.
No need for that kind of hostility bro.
You, like many of other boxing fans are gassed up, Porter even in the rematch was losing some of the exchanges with Julio Diaz. His inside game is decent, he is more in and out. His success lately is off the fact that Malignaggi was never that good to begin with, past his prime, not a puncher and can't fight on the inside. Alexander for the most part had similar deficiencies, can't punch or fight on the inside.
Marquez is heavy handed and may still prove to be too good of a counter puncher for Porter's aggressive style, I can see Porter running into shots if he isn't more selective than he's shown. If Marquez can keep him honest then I can safely say Porter isn't winning because he's never shown to have the kind of boxing ability to deal with that caliber of a fighter.
Porter has improved since he beat Diaz, even since he beat Alexander. Paulie was never that good to begin with? Paulie was not elite but he was still a very good fighter. He just couldn't deal with Porter's aggression and pressure.
Marquez I think is just too far gone to beat Porter, he looked like **** against Bradley and even looked pretty average when he KO'd Pacquiao. You're right I can see Marquez pulling off some counters against Porter, but I think in the end Porter would win a decision over Marquez.
Give the man a chance to fight in his home country, isn't fair ward got to but who knows. Ward too scared to leave the states
I hope you're not serious bruh. It definitely makes no difference if it was fought in England, Canada, Las Vegas, Africa, wherever it may be. Ward hit Froch and for the most part boxed circles around him. Froch was never "in" the fight, he was able to hit Froch and avoid most of Froch's best shots. I'm sure he's scared to fight a guy that he CLEARLY schooled.
Same result, regardless of location. What can Froch do to have a better chance against Ward?
Sorry but Broner is the fùcking hype job. you got it twisted. I'd love to see your scorecards for Alexander & Judah because those are both widely considered robberies and should be wins for Matthysse. Guarantee that Broner never even fights Matthysse because Broner doesn't like taking hard fights.
He just annoys the **** out of me acting as if he's the one who holds leverage when he doesn't. If he's so much of a champion lets see him go in hostile environments and win. He most likely would but I bet he won't go to the uk. Because he's scared to leave the states. He's gonna make 2mill plus.
How does he NOT have leverage? He already clearly beat Froch, he should decide where to fight. Isn't Ward the super middleweight champ? Here's the thing, he really doesn't NEED to go to the UK for another 1 sided victory over Froch. If he had lost it would be another story. It should be Ward's decision where the fight takes place.
Don't forget that Ward and basically beat with 1 hand, he hurt his hand if I'm correct.
There should be a "none of them" option.
I think that Scott and Jennings are real good. We'll see how good Scott is if he decisions Chisora like I expect him to.
Jennings is the most promising by far though just based on solid fundamentals, skills, and good power.
I expect (HOPE) Broner to get exposed by the likes of Maidana or Matthysse, he just hasn't fought anyone that can really hurt him. The Paulie and PDL fight showed that he can be found to the body, however neither of them have the power to hurt Broner to the body.
I don't think Jones ever intended to stay at HW for long. he knew the danger in fighting big HWs. There was talks of Jones fighting Holy or Tyson around that time. both would have had big chances to KO Jones, forget Lennox..
Even against a way past it Tyson, that would have been dangerous, because Roy himself was past prime already in 2003 going to 2004. Hell, it could have been Tyson who Tarvered Jones had they fought. But getting KO'ed by Tyson would have been much more respectable.
Still would be a pretty bad defeat given how far gone Tyson was also. But it would have been acceptable.
I wanted to say Herrera but I think he is on the downhill..
i dont know how you could come to that conclusion when Herrera is basically on a 3 fight winning streak against Benavidez, Danny Garcia and Perez. He's at the top of his game right now. Dude just can't catch a break.
did they ever get a $50 mill contract?
you're just a cotto hater.
cotto probably destroyed your favorite fighter.
1. Since when does $$ automatically equate to greatness? aren't we supposed to look at resume.. skills.. etc?
2. I like Cotto
3. Who is my favorite fighter?
we all know the commissions/judges/refs/cable networks/casinos wasn't gonna let floyd lose.
it's ok. us the fans know who really won that fight.
You didn't tell me which 7 rounds Cotto won, though.
Miguel Angel Cotto
Puerto Rico's GREATEST FIGHTER.
LOL.
F*ck Wilfredo Gomez, Benitez, Trinidad and Carlos Ortiz, right?
Saying Cotto is PR's best fighter, simply just demonstrates a lack of historical understanding
nah I'd say the dude's power is definitely very good. you can't do that to Tim bradley unless you got some substantial power. it's just that he's a very limited fighter. 1 dimensional. his delivery system and accuracy hurts him.
People still overreact to this sh1t? Yeah, Shane caught Floyd with 2 big punches, he hurt him badly, but Floyd wasn't even close to getting knocked out. No way.
lool i saw him at the weigh in lool my bad
but come on, Oquendo, such a step down, after all that talk of a rematch etc
I hope Gonzalez hasn't found the ***** in Mares
And to think people were comparing Mares to Froch on here smh
Mares is still down for a rematch i've heard.. Mares had a legitimate P4P case before he got stopped by gonzalez