UGH, I't mindboggling why I still haven't seen Floydfans urging Floyd to fight Pac!

Lol at the Floyd stans here it's so obvious they still see Pac as a threat.... never wanted that fight at all... hahaha. Everyone saying Pac is in a big decline is typical of the simple minded fickle nature of fans. They just see the KO that can happen to anyone and say ''he's past it''. Yet they don't talk about the performances preceding the KO.. where he was robbed against Bradley and looked good against Marquez before the KO. Dude, what are you talking about? He looked terrible against Bradley. Missing a huge amount of punches and his stamina was just awful. So please don't use that fight to support your argument. By the way, I don't see Pac as a threat and never have and I hope to God that fight gets made.

Lol at the Floyd stans here it's so obvious they still see Pac as a threat.... never wanted that fight at all... hahaha. Everyone saying Pac is in a big decline is typical of the simple minded fickle nature of fans. They just see the KO that can happen to anyone and say ''he's past it''. Yet they don't talk about the performances preceding the KO.. where he was robbed against Bradley and looked good against Marquez before the KO. Hectari and Sam Donald are manny fans. SO i strictly UG, hugh grant, pacfan and others. Its mostly them that are saying manny is done.

Just as good as Guerrero. guerrero beat two ww's ranked in the top 10, rios hasn't fought at ww. we don't know what rios will be like at 147.

is there any fighter who has ducked as many prime welterweights as Floyd? Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android Manny Pacquio. when was the last ww he fought?

Well they both have fights so I want to see them win and how they look before I start looking beyond considering both are long time vets now. Rios should not be a huge challenge for Manny but considering what happened to Manny last time out, I think that is a fine test one Manny should pass fairly easily but if he doesn't that shows you where he is at. Floyd is facing a bit stiffer test but also one he should be able to handle if he is still roughly the same guy but Floyd is getting older and Canelo hasn't really tested his upper limit so who knows it could be a very difficult fight for Floyd. So there are a lot of moving parts currently that should be settled before really thinking about it further. Plus given past problems in making a deal for this fight that still exist I can understand why people wouldn't be shouting from the rooftops at this very minute for that fight.

Is there one fighter in the world besides Mayweather that gets crap for "ducking" a guy that just got knocked out cold who's calling him out while he and Mayweather both have a fight scheduled and the other fighter's coming off a loss and Mayweather's opponent is undefeated and coming off a big win? This is stupid! The more the comments roll the stupider it gets. is there any fighter who has ducked as many prime welterweights as Floyd? Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android

Is there one fighter in the world besides Mayweather that gets crap for "ducking" a guy that just got knocked out cold who's calling him out while he and Mayweather both have a fight scheduled and the other fighter's coming off a loss and Mayweather's opponent is undefeated and coming off a big win? This is stupid! The more the comments roll the stupider it gets. Oh look, a Mayweather fan who doesn't use common sense or his brain, surprise surprise. Mayweather was ducking Pacquaio before the KO. Pacquaio didn't call him out, calling him out would be going out of his way to bring up Mayweather and specifically talking towards him and asking him to fight him. Instead he responded to the interviewers QUESTION ON MAYWEATHER, and said if Mayweather WANTS TO FIGHT HIM, then they can fight, and that if Pacquaio is such a bum and has-been then why won't Mayweather fight him and make an easy pay-check instead of fighting people like Robert Guerrero. Calling someone out is what Mayweather did when he stated "And yes Manny Pacquaio, you're next". Lastly I wouldn't call Canelos win over Trout very big at all, in fact many people dispute that Trout should have won. I had Canelo winning, but his performance in that fight wasn't his best.

As long as hes under Arum a fight is a long shot. Wich really makes me question why he would sign another contract until 2014. I think he wants the fight, but that just make NO sense to me! Pac seems very weak minded and that doesn't bode well for someone that wants to be President.

You call your constant tea bagging of floyd/broner a 'contribution'?:rofl: Tell me what value do you and the likes of the other thick spastics like burner/STAX/Reloaded/Sucketts etc. add Dont make me laugh.:nonono: No SIR, dont make ME laugh! You show how full of Shlt you are by even mentioning Broner, since I have rarely even mentioned his name the entire time here, nor do I think that much of him. Could that be a little more racism shining through? hmmm:dunno: I am here for to debate boxing, opinion and fact, that is my contribution. You prove w/many of your post that you're here to troll for posting garbage.

Is there one fighter in the world besides Mayweather that gets crap for "ducking" a guy that just got knocked out cold who's calling him out while he and Mayweather both have a fight scheduled and the other fighter's coming off a loss and Mayweather's opponent is undefeated and coming off a big win? This is stupid! The more the comments roll the stupider it gets.

Why the **** not. You friggin mongoloids have got tunnel vision when it comes to boxing. Its just Pac-Floyd, Floyd-Pac blah blah blah. One has to be good, one has to be evil but none of that has got fook all to do with boxing. Fighters that have been badly knocked out normally and should take a few fights to see where they are at and get their confidence back. How long have you actually followed the sport...do you actually know anyone directly involved with it or with fighters? Why not? I don't have tunnel vision at all when it comes to boxing. And just to let you know, I have been watching boxing long enought to see Ali Spinx 1 & 2, i'm sure much longer than you. I just know when I am being sold bullshlt. Fighting Rios isn't going to prove a thing and while it may give Pac some confidence back, it shouldn't. He could've at least picked someone that he should beat, but would give him some difficulties, like Alvarado. Rios will just stand there right in front of him, he's slow, no defense, can't box. The only saving graces he has is his power(a ? at 147) and his chin. Why would that give Pac confidence? If that's the case why not just give me 250k, and put me in the ring, I'm sure I can get him a lot more confidence than Rios will. Although I thought it was stupid to move that far up the latter, at least Ricky Hatton came back and fought a game fighter for the time thathe had been off. He wanted to at least challnge himself and find out if he still had it. This doesn't seem like that at all. This is "let's pick a guy that has the abolute worst style against you, that has a very slight punchers chance". This is not the first time Pac has been Ko'd. He knows what it takes to come back, so spare me all that confidence mumbo jumbo. If floyd had got sparked out like that after 60 fights or even now after 44, I would fully expect him to take a few tune ups, absolutely I would, and I would commend him for taking on someone of Rios' calibre. No you wouldn't. Have you ever commended him? The only posts I see is you talking trash about him and blaming him. Sometimes I genuinely think you fuktards hate boxing with a passion. I wince every time I hear one of you wee derplets call a contender or a world champion a 'bum'. Boxing doesnt need you or your ilk, in fact it would be so much the better if you all just fooked off and watched something more in line with your kind of fan worship, like wrestling or something.:nonono: I love boxing, sorry son, you've got that wrong. Show me where I called someone a bum? What is a "fook" by the way? So you deduced all of this because I TRUTHFULLY mentioned that floyd would be raped for mentioning Brandon Rios as an opponent? Got it! You are one to talk about what boxing doesn't need with your lovely avatar.

Personally, I dont like grading a fighter like a school kid as they deserve a bit more respect than that..I will say that he is a very good fighter and a former recent world champion. Why is that not a good comeback opponent? Rios is an ok comeback opponent given Manny's last fight and what TR is doing in china.I object to you and others using the word "dangerous." That he is not. The criticism comes in because Manny is a ww that will have fought his 3rd or 4th straight JWW moving up. He is fighting this type of fight when he s winning. When does he fight another legit ww? Rios may be a very good LW/JWW but he is unproven at ww. If manny is the 2nd best ww and top 5 p4p fighter as posters suggest-then even as a comeback fight it falls short. Rios would NEVER be an acceptable opponent for floyd, even if he was in manny' situation.

I'll never argue in favor of catch weights. This one in particular makes NO sense to me at all. He's got a perfect chance to shut everyone up, and he makes a 2 pound weight restriction? Makes no sense. I swear I think he does it to make sure people keep hating him. Well, he actually got some idiot fans to believe Cinnabon was the one who wanted the catchweight...I mean, if you have fans as dumb as this then why not grab those 2 pounds?

Gotcha, I think the Canelo/Floyd fight would be a lot more meaningful if they were both allowed to be 100% though, instead of just one fighting at 100%. I'll never argue in favor of catch weights. This one in particular makes NO sense to me at all. He's got a perfect chance to shut everyone up, and he makes a 2 pound weight restriction? Makes no sense. I swear I think he does it to make sure people keep hating him.

Personally, I dont like grading a fighter like a school kid as they deserve a bit more respect than that..I will say that he is a very good fighter and a former recent world champion. Why is that not a good comeback opponent? He was a world champion at 135, that was 2 divisions away.

Oscar and Dawson wanted to fight at that weight though, you can't blame Pac and Ward for that. I wasn't blaming them. I was establishing the difference between severely drained, and not severely drained.

ALl i did was ask where /how you rank rios if you disagree he's a c- fighter right now. No name calling, no other BS. Personally, I dont like grading a fighter like a school kid as they deserve a bit more respect than that..I will say that he is a very good fighter and a former recent world champion. Why is that not a good comeback opponent?

Cotto was severely drained against Pac, Canelo will be drained against Floyd too. I agree that catchweights are stupid, I think they're cowardly too, What's the point in challenging a fighter for their belt if they're not gonna be 100%? We're just gonna have to agree to disagree on "severely drained" Oscar...severely drained. Dawson...severely drained. Cotto? Not so much. I think Mayweather does stupid shit on purpose to make people hate him.

ALl i did was ask where /how you rank rios if you disagree he's a c- fighter right now. No name calling, no other BS. Exactly. I say Rios is average or just below it and that Pac should walk through him and his response is the usual spambot garbage he spews all day on this site.

For the most part they do, John....or are you going to try telling me that you havent seen burner/STAX/Reloaded/Dunn/Jakutindi/Sucketts and the rest of the dumb fux post? And before you jump to any conclusions, I dont have a favourite fighter either....at least not one anyone here is likely to know about. ALl i did was ask where /how you rank rios if you disagree he's a c- fighter right now. No name calling, no other BS.