If the punch in the replay caused the injury, that was no thumbing.
With how his face looked a few seconds before the punch compared to how it looked a few seconds after, it is probably pretty safe to say it was indeed that punch, and you are correct, definitely no thumbing. This just sounds like bad sportsmanship now.
Froch vs Bute in their contracted rematch on a double header bill with Kessler vs Stieglitz, then the winners face off in yet another unification match to determine the rightful challenger for Ward, with that fight happening next year some time.
Not a bad call.
Stieglitz could do with the exposure.
That's what I'm thinking, putting him on the same card as Carl will only build his profile. Could even have the Stieglitz vs Kessler fight for the vacant WBC belt along with the WBO belt, which gives us the added bonus of the final fight of the mini "tourney" holding every single worthwhile belt at 168. That would be huge for the sport, it's been a while since anyone was officially "the man" according to all the major organisations. Might even help Ward sell more tickets if he can win this, which IMO at least, he probably would.
Uh, Margarito knocked out a prime Cotto with bricks in his gloves and Floyd Mayweather won a decision against him 4 years later. Is Margarito better than Mayweather? No.
You omitted the most important bit...filled it in for you.
Whoever is "the man" doesn't have to fight number 2, he's already "the man". The onus should be on number 2 to knock him off his perch.
Put simply, Wlad is "the man" and should be ranked as such by everyone.
What numbers do you think this fight could pull? Hatton/Haye used to pull in 1 million buys do you think Froch could come close or even half of that?
In terms of how entertaining the first fight was, it should do at least as good, but obviously it won't. Kessler's fight against Calzaghe will bump the numbers up a little bit, as he deservedly gained a lot of British fans in what was a very valiant, albeit losing performance.
If Froch beats Kessler I think his hype will be insane and will start pulling Haye/Hatton numbers. UK really need their next top boxer and Froch could be the next one. (Khan failed)
He's already up there, but only because this is a somewhat barren time for British boxing. If he were around in the Calzaghe/RJJ era, he would be so outclassed we wouldn't even be talking about him.
"Their super-middleweight world unification bout is an 18,000 sell-out with the winner earning complete bragging rights in the division."
And in one sentence, all credibility was lost.
There is one reason why the heavyweight division is in decline, and one reason only; americans have no interest in dominant champions unless he's an american.
I feel like this journalist has a vendetta against Carl and is using everything he can to try and stir up some hate against him. I spoke to Joe about Carl not long before the 2nd Kessler fight and he said to me that whilst he thinks he would have won a fight between the two, he can never be sure and we will never find out now. He also said he rates Carl as up there with the best of British, with the likes of the Eubank and Benn, but as for between himself and Carl, he couldn't possibly comment. And this is a casual chat at the football, so I struggle to believe he would say such things to a reporter, who is likely to print anything controversial he might say.
Sloppy journalism, and putting words into people's mouths is all this is.
Froch on the other hand has been just the opposite. He's run into the fire in every situation. He's determined to prove how great he is. And has.
He has indeed proven how great he is, it's just a shame he proved that he's not very great, if at all.
He's good, yes, but great? No.
And I like Carl, just not so much that I'm blind to obvious facts.
It was a response to the post I quoted about the 'Jones didn't want Calzaghe' stuff.
Someone on this very site has Joe's quote about 'lookind for big money fights and not tough fights like Jones' as their signature...it wasn't on Jones.
There's a quote somewhere from Jones where he said something along the lines of "Why would I fight Joe for 2 million when I can fight a tomato can with a name in the states and earn 6 million?" Obviously I'm paraphrasing, but I actually heard him say it myself in an interview.
No sir, I thought the Kessler that Fought Froch in Denmark was Mikkel at his best and even there he didn't whip Froch he edged the win by a ball hair
Even Kessler admitted he has never been as good as he was that night against Joe, so you're logic is flawed to begin with. I'll see if I can find the interview.
Don't care, fighters aren't the best people to ask about their own careers. I think he was better the night he fought Froch in Denmark. Kessler also said he had a hand injury when he fought Joe
And fans of the boxer who beat the guy we're talking about aren't the best people to ask either. Deliberately or not, they always credit their fighter with the most they possibly can, in this case by hyping the opponent.
Kessler's best ever performance was against Calzaghe, and that Kessler wins a close decision over Froch more often than he doesn't.
Calzaghe is so overrated...Chad Dawson made Hopkins look average yet Calzaghe struggled and arguably lost to Hopkins.
But Hopkins embarrassed Kelly Pavlik, who destroyed Jermain Taylor, who won a decision over Hopkins, twice. Where does that leave us now?
And what's with the "arguably lost to Hopkins"? Either you have a bad memory or you know nothing about boxing.
I have a bigger problem with Andre Ward looking desperate for a rematch of a fight he dominated then I do with him fighting in the UK. Venue doesn't matter, Ward wins the rematch as well.
Money. Froch sells.
Ward doesn't need to do any mother****ing thing. He beat Froch. What's next. If Ward doesn't go to England, he'll be called a coward, or won't make money...lmao. Please.
I'm going to put this so simply even you can understand it:
Ward wants to get paid. Ward can't sell tickets on his own. Froch can sell tickets fighting almost anybody, but a chance to avenge his only other loss will be huge. If Ward wants to get paid, he has to fight Froch, there's nobody else. Since Carl has many other options, Ward needs the fight more than he does. The man who needs the fight the most conforms to the terms set by the opponent. It's really not that difficult a concept to get your head around, try thinking for a change.
No champion should have to go to another mans country to fight him
Doesn't Froch hold 2 of the 4 belts now? Is that not one more belt than Ward holds?
That aside, Ward wants to get paid but the only fighter with that sort of star power right now is Froch, so Ward needs to come to Froch, regardless of what happened first time out.
There people who believe he cheated yes, am I one of them NO. I agree with doug fishcer who believes margarito is a victim, But Ill end that topic right here its neither here or there, rather I address your other topics.
Most lose to those 3 Margarito Lost too.
Mosley (possible roided) - Got the better of Margarito that night, but Mosley usually get the better of most fighters.
Garcia - Margarito toyed with him and dropped him.
Pacquaio - Margarito went the full 12 rounds and took a beating beyond most men can even survive, most people lose to Pacquaio.
Cotto - Margarito was damaged good with that eye, Cotto didnt beat Margarito Pacquaio did, and most lose to cotto anyways. Did you see cotto face post fight he was beat up worse then the first fight this time he man up and refused to quit instead opting to hug it out.
Now if Margarito would have lost to Garcia your statement would actually hold some water, Margarito lost are only to Elite fighters after the scandal. 99% of boxers would all lose to that trio.
There's a word for people like you, people who refuse to believe things even after they are proven to be true. That word is "delusional".
See other post ^, douche!
Styles make fights; are you a boxing fan?
Even in your other post you make no mention of the many doors it opens for him. To imply, or as you did, expressly state, that Ward brings nothing to the table for Froch is downright idiocy on a near farcical level.
If Ward lose then fine go to the UK for the rematch; but in match that he easily won no he doesn't need to travel nobody believes Froch is better or will beat Ward simple as that he can continue fight Euro bums.
Yes, because clearly anyone who isn't the #1 is a bum. Let's just forget that this was a fight between the clear #2 and #3 in the division and label them both bums anyway.
Your obvious retardation aside, Froch would be more than happy to keep fighting in Europe for big money, but would Ward be happy fighting in Oakland in front of 12 people for peanuts? THAT is why Ward needs Froch, it's not the other way around because Ward couldn't sell beer to a drunk.
Ward wants to get paid big, and the only way he gets paid big right now is by fighting Carl. He wants it more, but if he wants to fight Carl he has to come to the UK. Nothing else needs to be said, that's all that matters.