Obviously Ward is the superior fighter, but thats where all ends. First of all, Ward cant sell tickets, period. Froch brings all the money no if buts or whats about it. Second and more important, when Ward was a nobody, people travel to Oakland and gave him the opportunities, so he and his fans better stop this "He is the champ Bs and he dont have to travel".
Ward needs this rematch more than Froch. He needs to prove he can fight on away turf and most importantly, Froch can fight Kessler again make as much money as if he was fighting Ward and tell Ward to F off.
So in other words Froch is in the drivers seat and Ward needs to get that trhough his thick ass head!
I disagree that Ward needs this more, but I do think Ward should go to the UK.
I doubt they would rob Ward if he convincingly beats him again.
I disagree that you disagree that Ward needs this more...
Soon, Ward will be flat broke...
On one hand his style doesn't sell tickets, on another hand his supposed opponents (particularly "cash cows") can't see the utility of having their a's's'e's kicked in boring fights...
I'm going to put this so simply even you can understand it:
Ward wants to get paid. Ward can't sell tickets on his own. Froch can sell tickets fighting almost anybody, but a chance to avenge his only other loss will be huge. If Ward wants to get paid, he has to fight Froch, there's nobody else. Since Carl has many other options, Ward needs the fight more than he does. The man who needs the fight the most conforms to the terms set by the opponent. It's really not that difficult a concept to get your head around, try thinking for a change.
And as a hardcore bumsniffing floydiot, you would think thats a really simple concept for him to grasp, but you are trying to talk sense to Fwank Sucketts, not very bright...and a hardcore racist to boot...good luck!
Well they've been saying Ward's name because he is the no1 in the division and all fighters at 168 should aspire to face him. However, the Kessler rematch was always first on the agenda for Froch and his team. Actually, the Bute rematch would have been next if he'd wanted it. Ward was always the next fight, there was no need to make an offer before now.
OK well the Froch vs Kessler II fight is OVER...now what is the excuses? Will they send the contracts now and make a legit offer or will they keep talking in the media and pretending to Nottingham that they really want the rematch but Ward won't travel? Fans believe what they want to believe and hear what they want to hear and see what they want to see
I just point out THE TRUTH! If Froch and Hearns are serious about a Ward fight and want him in Nottingham then at least make a REAL OFFER before running to the media and pretending like Ward turn down the offer to come to Nottingham when that offer was never made
My girlfriend does the same thing as you. She gets angry and won't tell me the reason. Are you on your period too?
What does that even mean? He's going to not fight?
And who is Edwin Rodriguez? You really think that is a big fight for Ward?You don't have a girl alt. Don't ever lie to posters again. Ever! Troll.
So you want Ward to "sit back" instead of fight. Weird outlook.
No I want the Challengers to grow a pair and come after Ward like they should, to be the best you have to BEAT THE BEST not AVOID HIM and make excuses about where the fight is and how many people are in the crowd like a lot of fighters are doing now lol
Ward is really not motivated to face Froch again he beat him easy n he will beat him easier, but if he fights him in the U.K. he will probably be more excited n motivated so he will n should take the fight, but reality is that Froch doesnt want the fight his scared of getting schooled easy, nobody is out there left for Ward
Froch just fought Kessler. Why would an offer have already been made? :thinking:
They both been saying Ward name and been talking about a rematch before the Kessler vs Froch II fight was even signed, and during that time an official offer was never made to Ward and Goossen, it has been all talk through to media to make their fans in their country believe that they want a rematch and Ward is the one avoiding the rematch which a lot of Froch fans currently believes now :no:
My girlfriend does the same thing as you. She gets angry and won't tell me the reason. Are you on your period too?
What does that even mean? He's going to not fight?
And who is Edwin Rodriguez? You really think that is a big fight for Ward?
Your you must have A.D.D. or something, it means that Ward is not in a desperate position to the point that he has to chase down fighters he already defeated for fights it means since he is still fairly young in his Pro Career he can sit back and wait for challenges to emerge
Edwin Rodriguez is not a big fight but he is the only contender at 168 that I see that truly wants to fight Ward and he don't care where the fight will be
Is that clear enough for you?
Well who is Ward going to fight instead of Froch? The point Im making is that Froch has better options out there than Ward.
No one, he doesn't really have that much options, he knows it too well too. And the thing is he would make bigger money and get sheit loads of fans here if he came over. It's not like he has Mayweather profile where he can stay in the US.
He is going to sit there long and fight for scrubs because he has zero options apart from taking on lesser known names. I don't know why his profile is quite low but it is what it is, even though he is the top guy at 168 he seems to be the one left out of big fights.
He is being left out by the people who know they can't defeat him, it is nothing he can do about that, but like I said in my previous post, he never official turned down going to Nottingham because a Offer has never been official made from Hearns and Froch, so far it has all being "MEDIA NEGOTIATIONS"
Send the offer and contract to Dan Goossen Ward Promoter and at least really try to make the fight happen instead of just talking about it through the media
He is the king at 168, you sit on your thrown and and wait for someone to challenge you for your crown! Edwin Rodriguez is the only one I see who really wants a shot at Ward at the moment
He is going to sit there long and fight for scrubs because he has zero options apart from taking on lesser known names. I don't know why his profile is quite low but it is what it is, even though he is the top guy at 168 he seems to be the one left out of big fights.
Well who is Ward going to fight instead of Froch? The point Im making is that Froch has better options out there than Ward.
He is the king at 168, you sit on your thrown and and wait for someone to challenge you for your crown! Edwin Rodriguez is the only one I see who really wants a shot at Ward at the moment
I think everyone expects it to end the same way, but the fight should happen. What else is there for Ward at SMW?
Froch earned this second fight... he is the biggest name out there (I guess), and the fight will clearly be a hit in UK.
Ward needs it more in terms of that there isn't a really big fight out there for him. Froch could fight Kessler again or fight Hopkins or even a domestic fight with Cleverley/Groves which would do huge business.
And he would still be fighting for #2 at 168, it is nothing Froch can do to surpass Ward other then beat him, Ward don't "NEED IT MORE" because again Ward is not the one that is 35 and career is towards the end so no Froch needs it more because his career is almost over and I am sure he would love to go out with some huge pay days and he would love to be able to say his is the best if the world at 168 but with Ward in the way he cannot proclaim that
Ward is just entering his PRIME as a fighter and he has already cleaned out his Division, it is no rush for Ward, the paydays will come the more fighters Emerges in his Division which will ultimately happen, people act as if Ward is the one near retirement the man is just entering his PRIME, most fighters don't start making big Money Until they are in their 30's ANYWAY!
Ward don't "NEED" anything, he is the one that is considered Top 3 P4P by most and is considered WORLD WIDE as the #1 Guy at 168, also Ward is just entering his PRIME while Kessler and Froch are looking to cash out on big fights because they careers are winding down
All roads lead through Ward when it comes to 168, sure fighting Froch overseas=Bigger Pay Day but it is also a HUGE RISK of getting ROBBED in NOTTINGHAM LIKE DIRRELL and I guarantee if Ward gets Robbed it is no way Hearns and Froch give him a rematch in the US, they would take that win and RUN with it
Froch wasn't robbed in the US, it wasn't any controversy after their fight, he flat out lost to a better fighter and it is not Froch it is his fans who seem to just can't accept the fact that Ward is the better fighter so they are using Payday and Crowd sizes and they want that to be the determining factor as to who is the better fighter....BUT Boxing don't work that way!
You want revenge then...COME GET IT! Ward is not obligated to GO TO FROCH because Ward is not the one that need the revenge it is Froch who needs it because without it he can never be considered that best at 168
Ward name is being USED by Froch, but I honestly don't think he truly wants to fight, they have build up this optical illusion that "yeah they want to fight but in Nottingham" that is what is being said of Camera but why haven't Hearns contacted Dan Goossen off camera if they are serious about fighting Ward again...Ward has never official turned down a offer to go fight in Nottingham because a offer has never been official made from Froch and his Promoter
Ward got plenty of years left, bigger pay days will come as more stars emerge in his Division, as guys like Quillin, GGG and others maybe look to move up, while guys like George Groves Develop and decide he wants to challenge Ward that could end up being a big fight years from now if Groves keep developing so Ward is not the one running out of time in his career...FROCH IS, Froch looked even slower against Kessler I thought and I seen absolutely nothing in that fight that made me believe a rematch with Ward would be any different, in fact I think a Healthier Ward Shuts him Out completely in a rematch he is just too slow for Ward
I've seen you in a couple of threads getting all worked up and name calling. You sound like a very frustrated (possibly sexually) young man.
What am I supposedly lying about?
You haven't seen ****. You're just another alt that I have to put on ignore for lying and stupidity.