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It's difficult to pick which one was his best performance because over his career he's been focusing and perfecting different aspects of the game. In a way his win over Castillo 1 is one of his best because he was basically standing toe-to-toe against a great fighter- with obvious problems with his right hand. Similarly his fight with DLH was top notch because he absolutely nullified all of Oscar's assets as the fight went by- back when DLH was still a good fighter. The only thing that impressed against Gatti was Arturo's ability to take punishment. What happened was exactly what will happen any time one of the best face average joe in any sport.

Well, Cotto is a world-class fighter and he knows it. Like Sugar Shane. Like Pacquiao. Like Marquez. Like Mayweather. They all fight the best fighters if the circumstances are right. Because they all think they can beat everyone else. I know people will shout out now that Mayweather ducked him and her, but to them I'll say look at his track record. Been facing world champs in every weightclass in nearly every fight since he took his first title. Some of them were unexpected champions or too highly ranked, but hey.

Well, Cotto is a world-class fighter and he knows it. Like Sugar Shane. Like Pacquiao. Like Marquez. Like Mayweather. They all fight the best fighters if the circumstances are right. Because they all think they can beat everyone else. I know people will shout out now that Mayweather ducked him and her, but to them I'll say look at his track record. Been facing world champs in every weightclass in nearly every fight since he took his first title. Some of them were unexpected champions or too highly ranked, but hey.

I've been sayin' this from day 1....Shane and Floyd will fight for the p4p crown because Manny will get beat by Clottey......EVERY year at least 2 or 3 monkey wrenches get thrown in the game......I don't make my predictions based off NOBODY elses.....in fact I love going against the grain!!!....Sugar Shane will be p4p king by the end of this year!! :boxing::lol1: what kinda shit is that. So if Manny doesnt KO clottey, but mayweather and mosleyh go to 12 rounds, with mosley chasing floyd around the ring without any of them breaking a sweat they should be #1 P4P?I guess you were wrong about Floyd. May struggles with southpaws and fast fighters and fighters that throw punches from weird angles Apparently Manny struggles with short, straight punches from slow, average fighters. cause floyd isn't a tough WW? :lol1: Floyd has an easier fight. :lol1: This place has become a shadow of itself.

No you wouldnt win because your not really a boxer.. JK dude, I do love your analysis though, very good. I agree with you and the TS to pull this off Cotto has to mix effective aggression and also make Floyd come forward to take away what he does best. Something else, if Floyd finds out he aint superman and gets sent to the canvas I think he will have a hard time recovering. He lives and dies off of his confidence. Had Mosley only stepped back and fought with a bit of intelligence against Floyd once he had him hurt the boxing landscape would have been entirely different right now. But Mosley went stupid and gassed himself out hard, that was painful to watch.Yeah, if Mosley would trade his million dollar smile for 50 IQ points, the boxing landscape would be different. First of all, he would beat Cotto back in 07' or thereabouts and secondly he would keep his composure when he hurt Floyd and take a step back instead of leaning into an advancing, hurt fighter. It was a sad thing to see that Mosley's confidence was shattered a mere minute after landing the hurtful punch. After that he just stopped trying to win. His lack of ring intelligence made his fights with the likes of the Mayorgas of this world unecessary challenging and difficult, remarkably so :ugh: And by the way, I am actually a real boxer :boxing:

Floyd isn't very good on his front foot, so I would make him come after me by moving alot on my feet, mostly to my right. By doing this, I would force Floyd to reach with his awkward drop-jab, which is a dangerous punch because it can easily be countered, and it would force him to jump in with his trademark leaping left hook. In order to stop those hooks I would keep my chin down like Hopkins and would try to step forward at the same time as Floyd would put weight on his front foot, which he does just before unleashing those leaping hooks. That way I would mess up the timing and accuracy as well as smothering the power of the punch. At the same time my forehead would be a real danger for Floyd's face seeing as he jumps in with his chin rather high. Many will probably point out that Floyd has been coming forward successfully against the likes of Mosley, Judah and numerous others, but many fail to realize the difference between active aggression and passive aggression. Floyd uses, for the most part, passive aggression in order to force his opponent to play into his strengths; counterpunching and disrupting the rythm of his opponent so he can punch when his foe is off-balance. Even though Floyd might be coming forward, he wants you to fire first so he can counter you. If you go back to the Marquez-fight, you can see the difference in Floyd's strategy compared to Mosley/Ortiz. He was actually more defensive against Marquez. I believe that he knew that Marquez wouldn't fall into the trap, but instead would wait for Floyd to make his move before firing back counters. That would be playing into Marquez's strengths, so he cleverly avoided that by forcing Marquez to be the fan-pleasing fighter who had to make it a fight. So, if I were to fight Floyd, I would try to take away his strength (counterpunching and timing) by moving away from him and forcing him to always lead, I would try to eliminate the lead right hand by moving to the right and keeping my chin low so that if it did come, there would be a danger of heads clashing, and I would force him to lead with left jabs/left hooks, which can be countered by respectively straight rights and left hooks. I wouldn't try to make my punches too hard, but rather focus on keeping my chin in cover of my shoulder due to his ridiculous speed, and I would focus on his feet movement/balance, because it's really quite obvious what he's looking to do if you watch his stance/balance/feet movement. With a little holding, pushing and mauling thrown in, I'd expect to see Floyd a little bit out of his comfort zone after a while, and then we would see how great he really is. If this sounds a bit like Hopkins' style, it's because it's similar. Hopkins' style would be the perfect nightmare for Floyd's style. Cotto does some of the things I mentioned pretty good, but he fails in a few areas. First reason of his coming downfall will be his impatience; he'll open up too much, too soon. Secondly he moves without a plan. It seems like he just spends energy just to do it, for no reason whatsoever. Thirdly he will begin throwing combinations while under pressure, which means Floyd will counter him to death-while on the attack. Would I win? Who knows, with size and power advantage, there's no telling :boxing:

Roach won't have any problems sending Pac in the ring against Floyd. Why would he? The manner of the outcome of a fight between Floyd and Pac will be down to how much of a beating Pac can withstand, because maintaining a high punch output will be his only chance of winning the fight. I will be more than a little surprised if Manny is able to throw much more than Mosley and De La Hoya was able to. And if he does, he's gonna need a world-class chin.

Most likely the fear of ridiculing. Most people doesn't really fear losing, but they fear losing the status in the eyes of others. Or fear the possibility of being embarrased in front of other people.

For me, David Haye underperformed on saturday, and I was wondering about his knee-tactics, so I would be interested in a rematch to see what happens if Haye goes into attack mode. I think the fight was incredibly boring, but the competitors were competitive in my eyes. At least until the later rounds were Haye seemed more frustrated than anything else. I was expecting Klitschko to out-punch Haye once Haye had let off his steam, but Wladimir remains a cautious and scared little big man. Seeing as Haye is the only man able to avoid being dominated by Wlad, and actually being a danger to him, I can't see any other fighter I'd rather see in there with Wlad. Haye should keep away from Vitali though, because a higher punch frequency will see Haye on his ass.

It could be, but highly unlikely due to the fact that Mosley has fought numerous times since the 'roid issue blew wide open. People speculated about the same after his poor showing against Cotto and Mayorga. Yes, I'm saying Shane fought a bad fight against Cotto. He looked gassed after 5 rounds there too. Shane being smaller against Floyd is directly related to training focus/methods. He needed strength against Margarito, speed against Floyd. In his mind, at least...

Impossible to say, but Wayne McCullough is up there.

He performed as expected; unable to adjust, relax, think and set traps. Exactly as we saw against Forrest, Winky, Mayorga, Cotto. Mosley has a game plan coming in, and does his best to follow it for a round or two. If it works, he'll keep doing it. If it doesn't, he'll keep trying to land one hail mosley.

Pillow fight? Calzaghe. Genuine boxing fight under genuine boxing rules with a genuine referee? Floyd by 1st round DQ.

Geez I don't know what to say to that. You just one narrow minded guy lol keep on hugging Floyd Mayweather's balls ever so tightly :luvbed: You won't see me defending Floyd's demand. This discussion is about the effects of blood testing, not whether or not Floyd should be in position to demand them.

Pacman doesn't completely refuse random blood testing. He did blood testing for Hatton, Morales,Delahoya etc. He even offered wants blood testing right after the fight in the locker room. He doesn't want blood test close to the fight because he has lost once from morales fight 1, where the Nevada athletic committee lost his blood test, and had to blood test him a day before the actual fight with morales. Plus the fact that he wasn't able to use his gloves because morales insisted they both use the winnings pillow gloves not the cletto reyes punchers gloves, and the bloody cut made him lose the fight. We all know the next two fights with morales was a breeze. So knowing that experience in the past that it happened to him before he doesn't want that to happen again. Its a stigma that can effect his mental frame of mind going into a big fight. Especially a big fight like Pac vs. MayweatherIt's not uncommon, or surprising, for a fighter to look around for excuses in order to justify in his mind why he lost a fight. Pacquiao may have manifested himself a physical and mental problem in regard to giving blood due to his loss against Morales. It isn't real, in the same way that red gloves hurts you easier than yellow ones. He believes he is weakened by it. Wether it is physical or mental. It is enough to be unconfident going into a big fight. Do you want an 80% pac going into a fight with mayweather? Don't you want Pacman and Mayweather fighting in their best form? If Pac is not in his 100% mindset going into the fight don't you think its not what we fans would want?Impossible scenario, though. One of these fighters will go into the fight less than 100% mentally, regardless of testing or not. It might be the guy who was hurt bad in the last fight, or it might the guy who read an unfavourable analysis by Steve Kim. Impossible to know before-hand who's gonna have the edge in mental sharpness, but one will always have it. Right now it's Floyd. Have you guys ever taken blood before? Some military men squirm just getting blood, like little kids. And if you watch 24/7 mosely mayweather when mosely was taken blood. There were 3 vials full of blood not the droplet or the teaspoon that they where talking about. Getting blood can pop a vain. And you all know boxer needs their arms to work perfectly. Especially in training. How can you train if your arm is sore from the injection that happened. Getting a blood test will stiffen your muscles. So how can pac train? when a guy like him relies on speed to win fights? Have you tried bending your arm back in forth after a blood test your muscles in your arms are stiff and swollen.I have taken blood numerous times, including the full stuff recently with 3 vials full of blood. It doesn't matter physically, you don't notice it. And even if it hypothetically did, it would affect the other fighter exactly the same since both fighters would be subjected to the exact same test. The stuff you say about the arm being stiff and swollen is irrelevant, really. Your arm will be stiff and swollen after a training session, so it's not like stiff muscles will be something new to a fighter. People are saying mosely wasn't affected with the blood testing during the mayweather fight. How can people say that when he surely gassed out and lost the fight?? Just on the 5th round alone his mouth was already open (watch it again if you don't believe me). Could be from being old or too much blood testing 8 times to be exact. ( we all know Mosely looked good against margarito. He had power stamina endurance. His mouth wasn't open for the whole 12 rounds. ) Well, Mayweather was also affected. He would never have been hurt by those punches if it wasn't for the blood testing!! See? Ridiculous argument. Mosley was breathing with his mouth open against Cotto in the 5th round too. Mosley is tight and spends alot of energy bouncing up and down and moving his hands in circles without actually doing anything. He got tighter against Mayweather because every time he launched forward to punch, a hard counter-punch was coming back at him. So he got more cautious and more tense. And wore himself out being scared of counter punches. Which leads you to think at 37 y.o. fighting margario, he could have been aided with peds to be that good after all, we have reason to believe he was on one before. He is an admitted user. So if comparing mosely performance in both margarito mayweather fight. You can truly see that Mosely was a different fighter that night against mayweather, wether it is the blood testing, his age, or no peds to help him. He really looked gassed out after the 4th round. Thus showed that he really has no business in the ring @ 38.He looked that way against Cotto too. Nothing was different about Mosley against Floyd. Mosley looked good against a slow fighter who can't counter punch. Mosley looked shit against a Cotto who counter-punched him. Guess what? Mosley looked shit against the best counter-puncher in the sport. Weird, huh? Just to add again. If someone told you you had Aids how would you feel without any proof? Multiply that to a thousand people telling you you have aids even without proof how would you feel? Your being crucifed without any proof. Best bet is to protect yourself right? People have no right to give false accusation it hurts any person mentally.You're twisting this to the opposite. If you know you don't have aids, you won't bother about it. Most likely you will take a test to prove people wrong. Manny won't. Some people have fobias with needles, blood, spiders etc.. So you can't say just because your not, there is no one who is mentally affected by that. These are just my thoughts that people should also understand about this issues.Most people would put away their fobia for 20+ million $. Manny won't. :lol1:

Just want to add. Lets say a surgeon had a shaky hands would you want to get operated by him. If you are a pianist and your arms are swollen and aching would you like to perform in front of a big stage? If your in a gun shooting tournament and your arm is swollen will you want to go there and still hope you can do your best? etc.. My point is your saying that having an injection won't really bother boxer is a false assessment. Having a swollen aching arm will defintely hamper training and performance for a big fight. A professional would always want his gear working in order wether in practice or in a stage or in a surgical room. It is like a soldier with a malfunctioning gun. Would you carry a gun in battlefield knowing it will miss fire? Ofcourse not you need the best weapom to keep you alive and have the confidence to win. Comprende hehe:lol1: We're talking about 12 days before the fight here, not the same day. Pacquiao's reasoning is bullshit. Floyd cleaning up the sport is bullshit. The reason is mindgames, nothing else. And possibly a little concern that Pac might be juicing.

This whole fight was some more Freemason Bullshit look at how Shane and Mayweather shake hands before the interview they did with Max kellerman where they sat down at a table look at how Ellerbe Mayweathers manager shakes the blood collectors hand on 24/7 look at how tha ref Kenny Bayliss shakes Shane Mosley and his trainer and second man's hand before the fight compared to how Mayweather and his manager shakes his hand and the difference between how their cutman shakes the ref's hand and check out how Mayweather let's his Masters know he is about their business look at his hands right up until he shakes hands with the ref what would he represent if he flipped that sign up also where was Bernard Hopkins he is such a boxing puritan he could not show up for this bullshit much like Mosley's father Jack Mosley it don't take a genius to figure it out Merchant pretty much let you know what time it was in his own way when he said you have been fighting professionally for eighteen years why are you too tight in a fight like this what this whole thing has showed me is that Shane could whip Mayweather on any given day and he like Mayweather and no telling who else needs to come to the ring in Lawn jockey uniforms on because they both have sold out much like delahoya and others You believe Jay-Z rules the world too, don't you?

see, I disagree with this and I think you will see why in the Pac fight. No one is just going to be letting loose & throwing mad combos against a prime or nice sized Mayweather. He's going to bring most guys punch output way down. However, even if you do get your punch output up, he's not just going to go into a shell. Its just going to leave more openings for him to counter I agree with you. All this bullshit about throwing lots of punches will win fights against defensive geniuses are getting tiresome. How many punches did Winky throw against Bernard? And the whirlwind himself, Calzaghe, how much exactly did he land against the ancient Hopkins? Great counter-punchers will always limit the punch output of any fighter, regardless of who it is. Flashy combos are thrown against lesser opposition or fighters without counter-punching skills/power. Pac will find this out the hard way.

Any of you guys actually box? Tua inside 15 seconds, easily.

he's not gonna catch floyd that fast. i think he'll eventually catch him with something but i doubt it 15 seconds. It would be Tua-Ruiz all over again, only much more brutal.

Tyson, easy. It would be murder. Liston too slow and too poor defensively.

I think Haye would win for two reasons; 1. Hopkins wanted to fight Adamek. 2. Adamek leans in and looks down under heavy fire. Due to Haye's speed and reflexes, I think he would set Adamek up for right uppercuts. Either way I doubt the fight would last 12 rounds due to the explosive fireworks of a fight it would be.

Leonard by UD. Size, speed, power and activity advantages makes it a clear, but hard fought decision.

Your not geting it. Wlad could of fought Haye in May/June in England but refused. Because the fight is now set for jul it means Haye has to fight his Mandatory in March or lose his belt. So? Either fight to keep it or throw it in the junk and still fight Wlad. The belt doesn't matter.

He's been saying it for the past 3 years lol. I know. It doesn't matter. He can't be unified without beating both the Klitschko's, so it doesn't matter. Unless he wants to fight Vitali 8 weeks after fighting Wlad.

Let's just say for a minute that Wlad fights two fights in 9 weeks. Then what? And if he hammers them both inside 3 rounds, then what? Who is Chisora? It's unlikely that anything else than a steelhammering will happen. I like this attitude from Wlad. More champions and fighters should fight more often.

It does to Haye he wants a UNIFICTAION fight against Wlad. Bollocks, as Haye would have said it himself. Haye is an attention-whore. He wants fame and money. The belt is an excuse. Not being in fighting shape in two months when you are supposed to have a deadline for a fight is no excuse, it's retarded.

Foreman always believed Roy would be a tremendous heavyweight, from the mid-90's onwards. I dare not feck with George.

Haye should turn up on fight night in Chisora's place. Regarding your sig; I've met Daniel Peret, or Peretyatko as his actual name is, several times when he fought in the amateurs. During the national team camps he was always there, but I can't remember if he represented Norway himself. He always sparred with the young heavy's though. Yup, he is rubbish. Very. How someone would lose to him as a serious pro boxer is beyond me. :lol1:

Yes, they will. And he is. Fighting once a decade doesn't make you a better fighter. Ask Hoya. Floyd has slowed down enough to make you notice, not so much speed and reflex-wise, but feet and activity-wise. Past his absolute prime? Yes, sir. Far past it? No, sir. Far enough that it can change the outcome of the fight? Who knows? I doubt it because the clash of styles is so severe that I doubt it really matters if one or the other is 3% off their primes.