see, I disagree with this and I think you will see why in the Pac fight. No one is just going to be letting loose & throwing mad combos against a prime or nice sized Mayweather. He's going to bring most guys punch output way down. However, even if you do get your punch output up, he's not just going to go into a shell. Its just going to leave more openings for him to counter
I agree with you.
All this bullshit about throwing lots of punches will win fights against defensive geniuses are getting tiresome.
How many punches did Winky throw against Bernard? And the whirlwind himself, Calzaghe, how much exactly did he land against the ancient Hopkins?
Great counter-punchers will always limit the punch output of any fighter, regardless of who it is. Flashy combos are thrown against lesser opposition or fighters without counter-punching skills/power.
Pac will find this out the hard way.
De La Hoya would give him lots of problems. With as many combos De La Hoya use to throw back then it would throw Mayweather off
Would be a close decision imo
see, I disagree with this and I think you will see why in the Pac fight. No one is just going to be letting loose & throwing mad combos against a prime or nice sized Mayweather. He's going to bring most guys punch output way down. However, even if you do get your punch output up, he's not just going to go into a shell. Its just going to leave more openings for him to counter
Floyd is not in his prime. However he has grown well into 147 so now he is big, strong and although not as fast as he used to be he is still faster and quicker than everyone else. Oscar in 1998 was as prime as you can get, he would be quite a challenge for Floyd especially with his jab but Floyd's ability to adjust and take away Oscar's best punches would have been the end for him Floyd 8-4, this time a legitimate 8-4 not the bullshit one they got.
Floyd beats a prime Oscar, Shane, Tito, and Forrest at WW if you ask me and Im not being a homer. I say that because a year or 2 ago I wouldnt have argued with anyone that picked against him but I said the whole time that you cant fully judge Floyd as a WW until he grows into the weight. People wanted to compare him to great at WW when he really was only coming into the ring at 146 pounds and looking less than he did at previous weights. Now with the 2 year layoff he has grown into his weight so I pick him over any of those guys.
I still dont think he's as big as others think but he can hold his own now where he physically wasnt capable before. This Floyd would easily have fought the Margarito & Cotto's of the world a couple of years back. To me that was the biggest thing. Floyd fans want to say different and talk about money but to me he just didnt think he was big enough. He thought he could beat all of those guys but there was some doubt and he thought he may lose to an inferior guy like Margarito strictly because he wasnt big enough and he wouldve killed himself if he had let that happened. Now thats a non question and Im telling you he wouldve been much less hesitant to fight those guys if he had the weight back then to compete like he wanted to.
The problem is that its still a trick question because guys like Oscar, Shane, Forrest, etc were in there prime or close to there prime at WW. They were in there late 20's. Floyd is now 33 when he fully developed into a good size WW so its not like he has the prime speed & athleticism that he wouldve had at this size in his late 20's
at first i was thinking del ha hoya but i think like alot of people i sometimes need to be reminded of just how good pbf is.
pbf by dec it might well be close but i think he squeaks it.
Mayweather by decision...I see him being more aggressive than he was back in 07 and the size difference would be much smaller. It would be a great fight though, but I see Floyd eeking out an 8-4/7-5 UD.
It would be like their real fight only Oscar would be faster, sharper and don't tire. De La Hoya by UD.
delahoya at that age couldn't even beat whitaker clearly.
It would be like their real fight only Oscar would be faster, sharper and don't tire. De La Hoya by UD.
DLH is not beating Floyd. Floyd is the best boxer in the last 25+ years. The fight would be a lot more competitive, but Floyd would win the championship rounds.