Will this shut up all the Pac haters? We know Floyd is above the rest and to all the opponents Pac fought before. So by beating him will make all these Pac haters agruments like he only fights those old, shot, weight drained, coming off from big losses, etc. invalid. That is why most of them it seems they don't want this fight to happen!
At least, Pacman fought those fighters (Cotto, Clottey, Margarito) caused Floyd untimely retirement pretending they didn't exist in his 5 years at welterweight.
Oh so the only credit is fighting Arum's guys?
Making demands that are outside the rules of the sport are ridiculous. Especially when the first time he does it is against someone who's a real threat to him.
Roach has a history of steroids? Didn't know that, can you back it up?
Fighting Margarito in a catchweight is stupid, much like fighting Marquez in a catchweight where floyd didn't even bother to make the catchweight.
Floyd cherrypicked his way up in weightclasses, so did Pacman.
Bruseles? Gatti? Mitchell?
What about Hatton and Tszyu who were the best around that time?
Judah? Baldomir? What about Margarito, Cotto and Williams who were the best around that time?
Hatton? Marquez? When it comes to fighting the best, Floyd has avoided that like the plague. He is cherrypicking who to fight and when, to his own advantage and to his own rules.
It doesn't look better for pacman though, so piece of the same fabric those two.
At least, Pacman fought those fighters (Cotto, Clottey, Margarito) caused Floyd untimely retirement pretending they didn't exist in his 5 years at welterweight.
If he agrees to FULL RANDOM TESTING 0 days, a legitimate weight and a proper split, then went on to beat Mayweather he would get full credit. Manny will get full credit if he wins the fight fair and square, any manipulation of weight drug testing ring size gloves and all that **** just cloud his W's...if he fights straight up he will get 110% credit if he wins fair.
You sound terrified, bro. You okay?
for real, is that Floyd Sr. posting under a pseudonym? He sounds scared ****less lmao! :lol1:
lol! I was thinking along the same lines as you guys!
I'm surprised he didn't ask for blood testing between rounds, like Manny said he would do just to get this fight on!
Will this shut up all the Pac haters? We know Floyd is above the rest and to all the opponents Pac fought before. So by beating him will make all these Pac haters agruments like he only fights those old, shot, weight drained, coming off from big losses, etc. invalid. That is why most of them it seems they don't want this fight to happen!
They could always say that Pac fought a past-prime Floyd. You should know by now that haters just gotta hate and NOTHING pac would do can change that. They're the evil version of nike.
instead of "Just do it"
its "Just hate him"
i doubt he can, but he will get 110% credit from me. It would be a great fight, a pick 'em fight.
It's not about fans not doubting, it's about Floyd doubting.
Which is why he's hiding right now.
In fairness to Floyd Pretty Boy Mayweather Jr.,
I would want him and Pacman, to settle the issue inside the Ring!
Regardless who win the bout, I hope both fans of Pacman and Floyd should have that attitude that Boxing badly needs and that is Sportsmanship!
Congratulate and hug each other!
floyd didnt ask anything. JMM proposed the weight.. if floyd cheated JMM then pac cheated torrecampo when he came in over weight and got ko.
floyd and zab were already signed to fight before zab fought Baldo.
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pac loses the fight trying to make weight while floyd didn't and never intent to lose the extra weight even after signing the contracted weight thats why they didnt divulged the contracted weight during their press conference and floyd also didn't divulged his true weight at fight night..
"http://espn.go.com/sports/boxing/blog/_/name/rafael_dan/id/4499379".....YOU FAILED MISERABLY...now, regarding zab judah can you show me a link of what you are talking about or else its another lies from you....i can name more fighters that floyd fought coming from a lose like judah.. they are corley, toney duran,angelo nunez and other.....now, who lost /failed between us?? its you isn't it coz you peddled lies. so, next time before you argue make sure you are arguing with facts to avoid getting owned.
martinez doesnt need to bow. floyd would fight him at 154 unlike pacroid. its amazing how your pactards waste your time making up stuff that isnt even factual.
the facts are that paulie was never considered, neither was matthew. floyd doesnt fight atcatch weights or dudes coming off losses. pac openly ducked floyd, shane and martinez. pac doesnt want to take test without cut offs.
these are all facts.
lies!.......floyd fight the worst catchweight in boxing history by asking jmm a lightweight to fight at 144 lbs then got cheated by floyd coming at 2 lbs heavier...floyd fought zab judah back in 2008 who just came from a lost to baldomir.
martinez doesnt need to bow. floyd would fight him at 154 unlike pacroid. its amazing how your pactards waste your time making up stuff that isnt even factual.
the facts are that paulie was never considered, neither was matthew. floyd openly ducked floyd, shane and martinez. pac doesnt want to take test without cut offs.
these are all facts.
Sure, it's also true that boxing events are happening all over the place without this OST, right? Don't kid yourself kid. It is absolutely unnecessary. Floyd can fight without it just like he did in his previous 40 fights.
BTW, Martinez will bow down because he needs mega bucks. But don't kid yourself again, kid. Martinez will never register in Floyd's radar screen. Not even a blip. :dance::dance:
no you didnt you clown. he wants 7 days. as recent as the marg fight. did you not watch koncz expose him? funny how yall have selective memory
Oh okay. No problemo. Tell your hero to fight Martinez, then. Martinez is willing to bow down to Lil Floyd. Haha. You are stuck with the Pacman aren't you kids? Malignaggi will always be there for Floyd in case he wants none of Martinez also. :dance:
Will this shut up all the Pac haters? We know Floyd is above the rest and to all the opponents Pac fought before. So by beating him will make all these Pac haters agruments like he only fights those old, shot, weight drained, coming off from big losses, etc. invalid. That is why most of them it seems they don't want this fight to happen!
IF if was a fifth we'd all be drunk
Pac already stated that he will take the test up to the day of the fight and even after the sixth round. You don't believe him? I might not believe him either. But there's a simple way to find out. That is for Floyd to step up and say once again, "NO TEST, NO FIGHT!" Haha.. Freddie Roach would surely be the first to open his big mouth and say, "Sure, we'll take it!"
So until Floyd opens his mouth and calls out Pac, this forum will never cease speculating and playing blame game. But who cares? I've gotten over this fight long time ago. If it happens, it happens. If it won't, it won't.
does that mean if floyd beats pac, he also has a strong arguement for top5?
Depends on what he did after. To have a great resume and be undefeated...well, that would be unprecedented.
You sound terrified, bro. You okay?
Only person we all have proof of actually being scared is Manny himself,he is the only person who refuses anything, i'm merely a fan, i'm ready to pay my money and see the fight, Manny won't test because of any and everything up toand including his own admission of being "Scared" of needles. Only person that we know is scared is the guy that admitted he was scared who is Manny thus far. That's the truth.
If he agrees to FULL RANDOM TESTING 0 days, a legitimate weight and a proper split, then went on to beat Mayweather he would get full credit. Manny will get full credit if he wins the fight fair and square, any manipulation of weight drug testing ring size gloves and all that **** just cloud his W's...if he fights straight up he will get 110% credit if he wins fair.
he already agreed to fraud flawed ost..and will fight at 147lbs and the split is not even a problem coz they had already settled that one....saying pac manipulating of weight,drugtesting,ringsize and gloves is unfair coz pac is ready to adhere to all nsac rules.
weight=147lbs(unless floyd honors the contracted weight then he wont be paying $10million penalty per lbs in excess of the agreed weight.)
ringsize =this is non issue coz pac wanted "standard" 20x20 ring while floyd is the one who wanted bigger ring. ("http://leg.state.nv.us/NAC/NAC-467.html#NAC467Sec442..)
gloves =another non issue coz in almost all states 8 oz. gloves are used up to 147 lbs....Floyd has exclusively used 8 oz. gloves in all fights up to 147 lbs., even requesting 8 oz. gloves vs. De La Hoya at 154..("http://www.license.state.tx.us/sports/sportsrules.htm#61106)