All khan was doing was being the opportunist a d looking for a big fight to finally cash out that fragile chin.
Khan can make good money for easier fights, this is about taking a huge risk to advance himself in the sport, I just wish more fighters were as old school as that and wanted to test themselves. Khan annoyed me the way he waited around in hopes of landing Floyd or Manny, he could've had a few good fights since he started that stuff but I have nothing but respect for him doing this because I don't see it as a money grab.
Say what you want about Amir Khan , I know a lot of people don't like him but he has balls like no other. You have punks calling for catchweights to fight guys in their own divisions and Khan is going to skip jr middleweight and go straight to Caneloweight even though hes not even a big welterweight. Canelo is a real clown for this though, it doesn't take balls on his part.
But it's well noted by Khan himself that Haymon is still is his advisor which would entitle Haymon to his 15% of Khan's earnings for the fight.
This would look rather clear to a judge.
15% for an advisor? Does he really get that much? If so, that seems insane.
Frampton is getting made to look a b**ch
A whinny little b**ch
Quigg looks focused and ready to go while framptom is spitting the dummy out
It doesn't help that Barry mcguigan has been blowing so much smoke up carls azz he thinks he's gods gift to boxing
Quigg by ko in later rounds :boxing:
A-side, what a couple of jackasses, they both sound like ass holes, ones no better than the other.
Wow, talk about an overreaction. It was a stupid comment from an uneducated man. The response is ridiculous.
It really is crazy, all these people feel like they are in some type of position to judge him now, I'm sure every one of them have done or said something they regret but they want Pacquiao crucified for his beliefs. If you don't agree with him fine, but its getting ridiculous now. It's a shame you cant have your own opinion anymore unless it goes along with politically correct opinion and if you don't agree, shut up or you'll be an outcast. Telling people how to think and feel is acceptable now, don't be yourself, you must follow the crowd that cries the loudest.
Kovalev, he's in Wards head, Ward doesn't believe he won that fight and its in there even if he won't admit it, when they announced the winner he had a shocked look on his face, it was pretty clear he knew he didn't deserve that decision.
I think the shoulder injury changed Ward's outlook, one more and it could be curtains. He was staring retirement in the face during that time.
Probably why he's so focused on money right now.
Focused on losing money maybe, he wont fight because he decided to sue his promoter but blames his promoter for whats going on, he must be crazy. He thinks hes a PPV fighter because he won a few fights at the top level but nobody wants to see his fights on PPV and on top of that he wont leave Oakland anyway.
I used to be a fan but the guy just gets on my nerves now, if your a fighter then fight stop with all the ***** lawsuits and acting like hes owed something every time he opens his mouth to do an interview. The ego on some of these guys is unbelievable.
people who know boxing know that Hopkins is a true legend and is tough to beat,
He is a tough fight for anybody, true, but far from unbeatable, he doesn't always win like the thread title says. I don't know why people take being a fan to these crazy levels and say wild things that they know aren't true. They can still be fans without lying to themselves, Hopkins is a great fighter with plenty of accomplishments so there is no need to exaggerate it.
Low numbers but it looks like PPV numbers in general are taking a hit. Mayweather and Pacquiao's last fights couldn't hit a million, Cotto-Martinez relatively bombed and now the supposed next boxing star racked up some mediocre numbers. Guess people are tired of spending money on something you can get for free online (like I do).
Youre probably right but I think there are still people who don't mind buying the PPV fights as long as they are worthy of PPV, we just don't see it much anymore.
When you put garbage fights on PPV nobody wants to buy them and for good reason. Im not saying Canelo-Lara was a garbage fight but it shouldn't have been a PPV.
Im not the type to care about PPV buys and stuff like that but I do like hearing the bad PPVs and the terrible matchups had low ratings, its the only way they will stop doing it, as long as people watch and pay for it we will continue to get **** fights.
Andre Ward got paid $2million to fight Edwin Rodriguez (Rodriguez got $1million I think)
Stevenson got like $1million to fight Fonfara (I think)
Danny Garcia is probably getting 500,000+ to fight a plumber
There's a trend here
Yeah and as long as the TV networks keep allowing these fights on the air and paying for them its never going to stop. Im no network executive and I obviously don't know all of the details but I would think if they only accepted decent fights when they are dishing out huge purses maybe we wouldn't get so many terrible matchups.
Promoters and advisors are going to jump all over a high paying fight against a lesser opponent every time rather than the tougher fight if they have the option, its the safe bet for their investment and they don't give a **** about putting on the best fights, only making money. Networks have to stop being willing to pay so much for garbage fights so these guys realize if they want a tune up fight they have to take tune up money, not every fight is worth millions.
I get your point but I ask, when did the bold look to set their dates, change the entire testing procedure, wait 3 years to actually undergo random drug testing, especially after his refusal was on the spotlight, again I ask when did that happen? It hasn't, so where the fuck people get this idea that Pacquiao is being singled out more than the rest for no apparent reason? There is so much material with Manny.
I think you may have missed my point though, It seemed to me TS is just upset when its Pacquiao that is accused but for people who are on this site a lot its obvious that everybody is getting accused around here, so you cant be sour when your favorite fighter is accused with no solid evidence but at the same time be ok with it when its happening to a fighter you don't like.
TS seems mad but is it about fighters getting accused of using steroids with no proof or is it just a "leave Pacquiao alone" thing?
Its true there is no proof Pacquiao was on anything but same goes for Marquez, Hopkins, Mayweather, Matthysse, Garcia, Porter and the list goes on and on but no mention of any of those guys.
If you've been around here so long you should know its common knowledge that people on this forum have been accusing every fighter of being dirty for years now and don't give them credit for their victories and talk about them like they are garbage, meanwhile some retired fighters who were actually caught using HGH or steroids are highly praised.
There is no point in arguing over it though because you have fans of different fighters who label you with some childish name if you say something positive about a fighter they hate or if you say something negative about a fighter they love, its almost impossible to have an actual conversation without it some idiots chiming in with the insults and childish **** because that's all they really know.
I was upset about the Canelo Khan fight...this fight is the same thing. Some of you fans can try and explain as much as you want. This fight is bull****. If Canelo had an advantage then GGG has a monstrous advantage.
Canelo 5'8" 155 (his own weight class haha)
Khan 5'8" 147
GGG 5'11" 160
Brook 5'9" 147
Am I missing something?
Props to Brook for having balls. But I hate Some fans that talk about Canelo coming up, etc. so why doesn't GGG go up to find better fights? It's the same **** and if you choose to not see it that's very much your choice. At this point they're both protecting that 0. Also, I respect Canelo's upcoming fight a lot more than GGG. Brook is gonna get smashed violently.
Feel free to talk ****. Not worries about that. I'm a GGG fan. Dude to me is P4P #1. But this fight is a sham. Discuss.
How many people do you see defending it? I haven't seen many, I'm a big Golovkin fan but this fight is bull**** and nobody that **** on Canelo/Khan (which was also ****) can legitimately defend this garbage. I won't even be watching it and I lost respect for Golovkin for making the fight, its a shame really. Canelo's next fight is trash too, he's going for the easy belt but its sad to say its better than Golovkin's choice.
An honest person won't defend this fight, I'm a big fan of Golovkin and I criticized Canelo big time for fighting Khan and I feel the same way about GGG fighting Brook. It's a terrible fight and I lost a lot of respect for Golovkin today for agreeing to this. You can't **** on Canelo for fighting a welterweight but think its ok for Golovkin to do the same, its not ok.
I'm a Golovkin fan that **** on Canelo for fighting a welterweight and I'm ****ting on Golovkin for the same thing, its a terrible fight and I don't like it but before Golovkin/Brook was made I've had discussions on here with guys that were defending Canelo saying Khan was a good fight but I've yet to see those posters come out and defend Golovkin for fighting a welterweight. I'd respect their opinions more if they were consistent as well, I mean if you feel it's ok for Canelo it should be ok for Golovkin.
Not everything is about race, its sad when you can't root for a fighter without being called a racist for rooting for the "wrong one". Different people like different styles of fighters and most don't care what color they are or what country they're from. From my experience, it's the people who bring race into everything who are usually the racists.
What a joke, a fight that should have already happened is verbally agreed to for a year and a half from now. It means absolutely nothing, anything can happen in that span of time, they're hoping GGG will have moved up by then so they don't have to fight him at all and GGG is an ******* too if he's happy to go along with this bull**** with a smile on his face.
Its a good fight that needed to be made and I'm glad it was but I don't think it will be as entertaining as everybody would like. I just think their styles together will make for an ugly fight. Oh, and I don't think it should be a PPV.
Gilberto Ramirez - Arthur Abraham
Mikkel Kessler - Labrado Andrade
Lucian Bute - Glen Johnson
Denis Lebedev - James Toney
Donnie Nietes - Juan Alejo
I was going to post Kessler vs Andrade too, Kessler put a severe beating on him but Andrade took every bit of it, I don't know how he did it.
The last thing boxing needs is more titles/belts especially one that only a PBC fighter would be eligible to fight for. People say this one or that one is a paper champion because there are so many titles floating around now, we never get a true division champ, adding a PBC belt would only make it worse and even more watered down in my opinion.
well for however long Lil'G stays at 160 people will stop to care and move on the next, and many will start to realize what others were saying all along.
What exactly will they realize? That nobody in the division wants to fight Golovkin out of fear of losing? Somehow you think that makes him look bad? If anybody wants any success at middleweight they have to fight GGG, that's a fact. Him having a whole division running doesn't make him look bad man and I cant see how anybody would think it does, but you expect him to skip the division and run from a bunch of guys that wont fight him?
They'll realize that more obvious challenges are moving north. But what would Sugar Ray Leonard or Robinson know about that... just sayin.
There are challenges north of every division but its only GGG you want to move up, why do you want the top guy ran out of a division by guys that refuse to fight him? To me that's insane, you should be coming down on the guys that wont fight the best in their division not a guy that wants to unify the middleweight division, you've got it backwards. What do Sugar Rays have to do with the middleweights today avoiding Golovkin?
GGG has to stop this well they just dont want to fight me and are pricing themselves out speak that the GGG camp says.
I know fighters are avoiding him but GGG has to step in and pressure his people to make these fights, even if he has to take a little bit of a paycut to pay these guys a little more. Its called paying it forward. He takes a paycut now to make these fights happen so he can make bigger money down the line with even bigger opponents.
If his people start making fighters like BLS or Jacobs good offers and offer them there biggest payday and they still turn it down then his people need to put that out there and put them on blast.
All im saying is GGG needs to force his people to put money on the table for these fighters to fight him. If they are offering these guys amounts where they can make the same money fighting a lesser opponent then of course they will turn it down. GGG is not on a Canelo or Cotto level where he gets all the money and then his opponents get scraps.
IMO for a fight with Jacobs it should be around a 60-40 split with whatever money is on the table and the same with BJS. GGG expects it to be more like a 80-20 split with those guys which is not fair at all.
I understand what you're saying I just don't agree with it, fights are only worth so much and its unreasonable to pay more for a fight than its worth for the people putting up the money. I haven't heard Jacobs or Saunders say anything about percentage splits for what's being offered for the fight, only Jacobs saying he doesn't want the fight right now and Saunders asking for millions, unless I missed something, which is definitely possible. I'm a fan of GGG, Jacobs and Saunders but I don't think GGG is wrong in this situation.
If you feel GGG is not on Cotto or Canelo's level you cant expect the guys he fights to drag in money as if they were fighting Cotto or Canelo either, that's why I say a fight is only worth what its worth. GGG only makes a couple million give or take himself per fight if I remember correctly so its unrealistic for guys he fights to make the money they expect to get to fight him, if they actually even want to fight him. It seems they want to be set up for life financially to even take the chance of stepping in with him, that's on them, but if they want to move up in the world and are confident in their abilty they should want to be the man to beat GGG, that would boost them quite high in the boxing world. Let's not forget neither one of them are superstars or crossover type stars themselves so once again,a fight is only worth what it's worth.
I love watching GGG fight. I think the guy is a tremendous fighter and I know he's the real deal.
I'm also tired of the competition level this guy is fighting. I know guys are ducking him and avoiding to fight him but GGG needs to start taking some blame. He can't keep saying these guys are pricing themselves out or avoiding him. He needs to start making offers that these fighters can't resist and I'm not talking about crazy amounts of money but amounts where if it is turned down make that stuff public.
As much as I love the guys fighting style, I want to see him in there with better comp. or I hate to say it but move up. There are a few fights at middleweight that would make him good money but also be able to make his opponent good money too. Fights with BJS and Jacobs is very sellable. I could careless about Canelo because dude wants nothing to do with GGG.
The Eubanks fight to me is an ok fight. It's better than what he's been in lately, so it's s decent fight but nothing spectacular. GGG should be able to handle him like past oppenents.
You cant blame GGG if the middleweights won't fight him though, I always hear people say he should move up and that's fine if that's their opinion but I don't like to see a guy get forced out of a division because the rest of the guys wont fight him. People say GGG needs to leave the division because he cant get great fights, I say they need to fight GGG or be held accountable for it instead of blaming him. The guys refusing to fight the best in their divisions should be getting **** on for this not the guy on top trying to fight them all and being turned down.
Sorry I didn't read it all. Just keep it short, and I'm sure you agree that better frontiers are at 168.
Read the whole post and you'll get your answer, it will take about 30 seconds of your life.
you make it sound like every Lil'G fan wants him to stay at 160. Dude's 34. Like I said, could care less if he stays, but if he moves up, better for him and more stabilized and objective convos about boxing's "Best."
What I'm saying is a top guy shouldn't be ran out of a division he's obviously still comfortable at and wants to unify because the majority of the division refuses to fight him, its as simple as that. Fans complain about too many belts per division and there's never a true champion because of it but we have a guy now that is one title away from unifying middleweight and we have guys pissed off about it calling him coward and **** saying he needs to move up. on top of all that he's a hand full of fights away from breaking Hopkins title defense record as well, that's impressive on its own but no no he should move up right?