Have white American fans sold out to eastern European fighters because they are white

The only "minority" boxers I see getting that much hate are the Black ones. Truth be told much of the hate toward Black fighters comes from other so-called minorities.That's very true and I agree. Moreover, it's very sad at the same time, since these groups should all be standing up and fighting the legacies of prejudice, discrimination, persecution, injustice and inequality and not being pitted against one another over some boxing political agenda.

Who aren't necessarily all that good... But still better than anything America has to offer? Do you think the US made a conscious decision to be relegated to welterweights and ****? Nah they got outclassed everywhere elseThe point I am making is there are a lot boxers who are on par or as just as good as any boxing fan favorite out there but they get no shine or love from boxing fans because they were not born from their particular nationality or ethnic group. It's almost like they want to see them fail. I don't recall this much hatred and hostility towards African American boxers since the days of Jack Johnson; The first Black heavyweight champion of the world, which I find to be very shameful and despicable. It's like boxing has become the new modern day racism of 2016. I am speaking more in terms of the minority boxers; Who seems to be the most envied, hated and reviled by all boxing fans but loved by the casuals because casuals aren't biased. They notice good boxing talent when they see it and tend to judge it on its merits as opposed to some political agenda.

Yes, indeed and that is why the sport is on the verge of extinction and virtual oblivion because America is the Mecca of boxing. So it doesn't matter how many imported non-Americans fighters are competing on U.S. television; Like HBO. They will never catch on with the mainstream, crossover casual viewer or even gain a foothold in this sport, no matter how much they are pushed by the American premium networks because they are not American heavyweights. This is the major reason why boxing has left such a huge power vacuum among so many hardcore fans and are subsequently breaking off into Balkans, while choosing their favorite nationalities and ethnicity, who aren't necessarily all that good but because they belong to their own particular ethnic group. Therefore, pure boxing talent is no longer an objective sport but rather a subjective one because of the reasons I mentioned above. Who aren't necessarily all that good... But still better than anything America has to offer? Do you think the US made a conscious decision to be relegated to welterweights and ****? Nah they got outclassed everywhere else

Does this same set of rules apply to other areas of life? Like if a white American guy decided to have children with a Russian woman instead of with Laquisha the booty-clapper, would you consider that selling out? I'm just trying to understand what this thread even means

This is a cop out. Bradley Wilder Thurman Andrade Charlos JRock Trout Warren Rusell Davis Easter Imam Crawford Spence Hurd Jacobs Brant Hart Porter Broner Peterson Ward Williams Jr Jennings Washington Cunningham Michael Hunter Herring And you can't like one of these guys. I like several of those guys. Learn reading comprehension, please.

Yes, indeed and that is why the sport is on the verge of extinction and virtual oblivion because America is the Mecca of boxing. So it doesn't matter how many imported non-Americans fighters are competing on U.S. television; Like HBO. They will never catch on with the mainstream, crossover casual viewer or even gain a foothold in this sport, no matter how much they are pushed by the American premium networks because they are not American heavyweights. This is the major reason why boxing has left such a huge power vacuum among so many hardcore fans and are subsequently breaking off into Balkans, while choosing their favorite nationalities and ethnicity, who aren't necessarily all that good but because they belong to their own particular ethnic group. Therefore, pure boxing talent is no longer an objective sport but rather a subjective one because of the reasons I mentioned above.

Not the Brits. They support theirs be that Black as Bruno or White as Hatton. thats because unlike america we actually have white fighters who are good Groves, Fury, Froch, Frampton, etc etc

If this was true the klitschkos would've been ppv god's in the US.

Yes, you have to support your own fighters, it's a normal thing to do. But you don't have to support your every fighter blindly, only because he's sharing the same nationality with you. I wouldn't support Povetkin for a lot of reasons and I despise this guy. I'd probably support Crawford over Postol because I like Crawford more. Even if I like Provodnikov, I can't deny the fact that he's a C class fighter and terrible as a boxer, so I wouldn't start praising him like he's elite or something like that. Yes, I support my fighters but the fact that they share the same geographic location or the same nationality with me isn't enough for me to support them. I support only these fighters who represents my nationality (ethnicity,etc.) the right way. I wouldn't never support some clown like Povetkin, because it would be better to not have any fighters at all than fighters like him. At the same time, if some fighter is a foreigner and comes from different country that doesn't mean you can't support him or appreciate his talent. I was a Mayweather fan when he was active. We were growing up watching Tyson and Roy Jones Jr., appreciating and respecting their talent. Damn, some people were calling their pitbulls after Tyson. So you want your fighter to be appreciated and respected all over the world by foreign fans but you don't want other fighters to be treated the same? Now when ex-Soviet bloc allowed to participate in pro boxing, you don't want to share the success with them. The fact is - If it wasn't for American fans, these fighters like Lomachenko or Kovalev wouldn't be around. Because American promoters rely on American audience and States don't have noticeable percentage of ex-Soviet bloc emmigrants who would support their fighters in States, for example they don't get same kind of support that Hispanic fighters getting from Hispanic fans in America, and that support is big enough for Canelo to stay relevant. Boxers like Lomachenko or Kovalev don't have any big American fan base to rely on. Even Provodnikov said in one of his interviews that promoters dislike foreign non-English speaking fighters from Eurasia, these guys guys barely speak English and they barely can sell any ppv because they don't have the audience that would relate to them. Considering all of that, it's supposed to be obvious that ex-Soviet bloc fighters is the weakest group in whole pro boxing and American fighters has a lot of advantages. But we're seeing the tendecy that's like a contradiction to these facts - there's more and more fighters coming from less populated Eastern bloc, becoming the champions in a foreign country where they have all kinds of disadvantages. I have to say it again - If it wasn't for American fans, Lomachenko or Kovalev wouldn't be in pro boxing in the first place. Majority of great prospects from Russia are difficult to promote for American audience so 90% of great amateur fighters who would be competitive in pro boxing not getting any offers from American promoters anyway, simply because they're foreigners who can't speak English. Kovalev almost left pro boxing at some point because his career was going nowhere and nobody was interested in it. Even if you have to support your own fighters that represents your country in a good way, that doesn't mean you can't like foreign fighters. A great talent is appreciated all over the world

So you want your fighters to be appreciated all over the world, but you don't want the same for foreign fighters. I was a Mayweather fan when he was active, and I know a lot of Mayweather fans over here. We were raised watching Tyson or Roy Jones Jr. fights, damn, some people over here were calling their pitbulls after Tyson and we were appreciating and respecting some of these US fighters, trying to learn something from them. Damn, I'd probably even support Crawford over Postol, just because I like him more. Now when ex-Soviet bloc allowed to participate in pro boxing, and we have our own talents in pro boxing, you don't understand how your people can root for them only because they're foreigners? So it doesn't matter how good they are, **** them because they don't share the same nationality with you? You know what, after this thread I've started thinking about stop being a fan of ALL Western fighters, **** it, both sides can play that game Also, when American fighters (Jones and Mayweather) get treated extremely well in foreign countries (ex. Russia) people seem to love that, but now people want foreign fighters to be treated like crap in the USA? Why is that? Are these fighters saying bad things about America or the American public? I need someone to please explain. I don't usually like to get into these debates, but this is getting ridiculous. I agree with every word

Its simple Because white europeans are the closest boxers to whom they resemble physically People have a natural tendency to support athletes/fighters who look like them

Garbage, Algieri, Seanie and Paulie have been embraced by black boxing community. Cowboy Karl gets some of loudest cheers you'll hear by black crowds. No lie. .everyone loves malignaggi He is a straight shooter n people relate to him...white black what ever...plus he is an overachiever Algieri too....he has a lot of heart

Us Brits support Brits. You Americans don't support your American fighters. Instead you bash them and support eastern euro fighters. I just can't work out why and this is the conclusion I came to. If things were as you say, what's the problem? why would I support some fighter just because he's from my country? I mean, I do, but what's the problem if someone else chooses something different? if a fighter is a cunt, he's a cunt, no matter what country he lives in. So he can be criticized no matter what's your nationality. There's so much pro-black bullshiet here also, so what's the problem in not liking Mayweather for example when he hugs 70+ times per fight or pretends to be cleaning up the sport while conducting strange practices of IV's, TUEs, blood transfusions for "cosmetic reasons" and so on.

:tool:..... r u gonna cry?

I'm of Spanish/Hungarian heritage. I was born and raised in Australia and my favourite current boxers are GGG, Kovalev, Parker, Joshua, Thurman, Spence, Loma and Usyk. 4 Europeans 1 African American 1 African Brit 1 half African American/Euro 1 Samoan Kiwi I don't get the whole racist fans thing.. Guess it's more of a US thing?

He's on ppv you bigot. Stop lying. That means Hbo is off the hook for his purse dumbsh1t. Do you know a thing about this sport?

I am an old white American boxing fan who has loved boxing forever. I could care less what country a boxer is from. I like who I like. I could also care less what race a boxer is and many black fighters such as Hearns, Hagler, Napoles and Trinidad have been all time favorites of mine. I love Kovalev, Loma, Postol and GGG because of their fighting skills and personality. I would love them just as much if they were black. I love Rigo, Spence, Thurman, Brook, Axman, Joshua and Andrate because of their fighting skills and personality and they are black. I can only speak for myself and not other white American boxing fans. I think it's possible some black American posters dislike the best Eastern European boxers because they aren't black.

Go burn a cross you racist loser. do you think calling someone a racist every time your stupid point gets shot down makes it more valid? You don't know what you're talking about, ever. Go away cry baby. :bottle: racist:bottle:

Us Brits support Brits. You Americans don't support your American fighters. Instead you bash them and support eastern euro fighters. I just can't work out why and this is the conclusion I came to. you're speaking in absolutes, that's the approach the simple would take. NSB is no microcosm for how we americans feel about our boxing, don't mistake that for a second. the guys you're speaking of are all skilled, experienced and hungry with a fan pleasing style. i know you saw all these paq fans jump ship quick after jmm but don't fret, we're way more involved and educated in our boxing, as a majority, than just being blinded by pasty skin. ... that mf'er loma keeps a tan tho, doesn't he?!

He's going HBO ppv you racist failure It's going on ppv because HBO didn't want to pay for it you idiot. Go away. There's too many of you complete retards who have ruined this place.