PBC needs to quit BS'ing and make its own belt now!

Im not a fan of PBC (in general) but I am a boxing fan and it painful to see boxing in such a bad state. For boxing to get out of this slump PBC needs to quit BS'ing and create its own belt. By doing so itll stick it to the other sanctioning belts and itll really hurt all the other promoters. Its obvious what Haymon is doing, hes a manager/advisor so hes looking out for his clients, getting them paid and getting them a "world title" but there is no supremacy or star power with all these different champs. Its also good for the boxer but not good for the sport. Look at 154 for example, drop all those belts and have those guys fight for 1 damn title. Haymon really just needs to disassociate himself from all other entities if he wants to become successful because in all reality doing business with the likes of Top Rank could be dangerous, TR is small but they could go head to head with PBC and win in most weight classes. Basically PBC needs to go Wal-Mart on everyone. Thoughts?

Comments (20)

Redd_Foxx

That's exactly what I want to see, more world champs and greater division between promotions. It's done wonders for the sport over the past couple decades.

9y ago

jas

Itll be adding 1 belt to 1 organization not boxing as a whole. No other fighters but signed PBC fighters fight for their belt and no PBC fighters could fight for the WBC, WBA, IBF, and WBO. They would all die out because the other pormoters stables are so small and eventually fighters in the other promotions will have no choice but to go PBC's route. A monopoly isnt neccesarily healthy for boxing I dont know why its being said it is

9y ago

Francis_M

Haymon might as well make a PBC belt and start his own league. We will see a lot of complaints about level of competition bla bla bla. PBC can then eatablish their champion and maybe do some super fights with other promoters. There will be controversy on who is the best in some divisions similar to UFC and Pride with MMA.

9y ago

Boxfan83

Not legal. The WBC, IBF, and WBA have laws in place that prevent other belt creations from happening. Then how did the IBO become relevant?

9y ago

jmrf4435

Not legal. The WBC, IBF, and WBA have laws in place that prevent other belt creations from happening.

9y ago

KillaCamNZ

Create fights people want to see. And if you don't, your brand will die. It isn't rocket science. Doesn't need a set of belts to save it. I am the ESPN champion of the world!

9y ago

Boxfan83

http://www2.cdn.sherdog.com/_images/pictures/20100619125853_100619_145510untitled2.JPG What kinda belt is that? It looks pretty nice lol

9y ago

Boxfan83

Not yet. I want the PBC to have more of the champions first before they do that. Make it so the PBC belt actually has the best fighter in the weight class. DeGale/Jack could get one. Thurman vs Brook could get the welterweight version. It wouldn't be hard for him to get 1 at 154 and 126. To risky man, what if Brook beats Thurman, then what? Messing with other promoters could get his fighters L's then a PBC title would mean crap if the better fighter is sitting outside PBC.

9y ago

Boxfan83

It's not even legal. How come when people who aren't particularly fans of Haymon/PBC suggest something it's illegal? UFC told Congress that their belts aren't really belts, they're awards. Belts have to be available for everyone to compete and win and rankings must be issued by an independent sanctioning body. Well then they should make awards too!

9y ago

Boxfan83

Yeah not sure how creating another belt solves the issue of too many belts. this would only add to the "paper champ" problem. If a top guy in a division is a PBC fighter and holds the PBC belt, the other belts would be held by lesser fighters, and vice versa. It would create "paper champs" in every division (although that may already be the case) Creating a belt only Haymon fighters can win just creates a bigger divide. Haymons top guys can't just keep fighting each other, they need to fight the top guys outside PBC also. With the size of PBC once you determine 1 champ within their organization, PBC is big enough to have good #1 contenders for days, the other promoters and sanctioning belts do not. Eventually the best outside of PBC will have to sign with PBC or find a new profession.

9y ago

Boxfan83

Yea lets add another belt to boxing 4 isnt enough... Smh Itll be adding 1 belt to 1 organization not boxing as a whole. No other fighters but signed PBC fighters fight for their belt and no PBC fighters could fight for the WBC, WBA, IBF, and WBO. They would all die out because the other pormoters stables are so small and eventually fighters in the other promotions will have no choice but to go PBC's route.

9y ago

Boxfan83

Creating their own belts isn't going to solve anything right now. What they need to keep doing is making Thurman vs Porter fights. Fights that are significant. Fights that matter and fights that will generate interest and good ratings. Too often the have a good fight that makes sense but there is no follow up. We should be heading into Thurman vs Garcia right now. Spence vs someone relevant and so on. Easier said then done, though, I understand that but my point is they've been dragging their feet more often than not. Dont get me wrong, Porter vs. Thurman was a great fight and I enjoyed it very much but lets be real, it shouldve been Danny Garcia vs Keith Thurman, Porter is a good fighter but if there were one belt, he would have to rank his way up to that winner. Hvaing all these champs Porter could come off a loss and get another title shot which is BS because lets say Porter beats Garcia, well guess what Thurman already beat Porter, then what?

9y ago

Holystroke3

9y ago

bballchump11

9y ago

jas

Yea lets add another belt to boxing 4 isnt enough... Smh

9y ago

bigdunny1

Haymon was clearly thinking about doing this in the early stages of PBC. Numerous media reported it. And the first few PBC events BLATANTLY refused to acknowledge the belts being on the line and there were even video's of PBC officials at the fights making the entourage of fighters stop putting the belts in the air. But after a few events PBC abandoned this and now mention titles being on the line but are very vague and at times refuse to mention the organization that the fighter holds the title in. Haymon is toeing the line of not trying to p iss them off because he still needs their rankings and belts. If PBC was doing better then it is I'm sure he would of ditched them and created his own belts by now. Is this best for boxing? Hell no, more belts and more layers to prevent boxing no thanks. At least now there is a chance that an organization applies pressure on a fighter to either vacate, or go to purse bid to, ect make a fight happen that politically otherwise wouldn't.

9y ago

titan_m

The last thing boxing needs is more titles/belts especially one that only a PBC fighter would be eligible to fight for. People say this one or that one is a paper champion because there are so many titles floating around now, we never get a true division champ, adding a PBC belt would only make it worse and even more watered down in my opinion.

9y ago

juandabomb

they already have one, the brooklyn belt that paulie won vs judah

9y ago

R_Walken

I think the belts we already in planning If they set it up right now, The number 1 company that it would be just another belt. No different then the 19 that already exist The way I see it their too guys are all or soon to be fighting it out in divisions they have a stronghold on so when a winner emerges they are legitimately the #1 guy in the division. In about a year or so they'll have the #1 guy at 126,147,154,168 with a top 2-3 guy in 135,140, 160,CW , HW once the dust settles then I see them bringing on the belts because they can make a claim that this is where the top fighters are.

9y ago

BreWall

That's sensible. It would minimize the excuse of not fighting each other in the same stable.

9y ago