Gennady Golovking

Saunders is an akward southpaw, Eubank jr adjusted and kicked his ass from 6 to 12. Saunders won't live forever of a SD win over a quite green Eubank. Eubank is ranked numer 4 by BOXREC while Saunders is number 6 rightfully based on activity. Yeah right. He was desperate & reckless in the last half knowing he'd lost! BJS won a tactically superior fight. He ran away with it in the first half & made Eubank look like a crude slugger. Superior boxing, Deal with it! Even CEJ said the better man won! Now he's about to lose to Golovkin too..

nobody's running off Golovkin. again, if he stays at 160 fine, if he moves up, again, better objective convos about p4p. how does K2 justify merit for getting all the belts from 160? That's like saying some hip hop kid wants to be first to buy all the versions of a new nike shoe. unifications don't mean jack unless each council has a known champion. that's the point of Lineal or Ring status. Golovkin was promoted WBA and got the WBC gift. Beat Lemeiux for the IBF. So getting the WBO shows he beat Saunders to fulfill the legacy? If Golovkin is as good as he says he is he will move up and defeat the next champion indisputably. That starts his greatness in the rut hole he is in now. Or else Lil'G is miles behind from Chavez Sr. Ward never moved up and people were/are calling him pound for pound number 1.

GGG has to stop this well they just dont want to fight me and are pricing themselves out speak that the GGG camp says. I know fighters are avoiding him but GGG has to step in and pressure his people to make these fights, even if he has to take a little bit of a paycut to pay these guys a little more. Its called paying it forward. He takes a paycut now to make these fights happen so he can make bigger money down the line with even bigger opponents. If his people start making fighters like BLS or Jacobs good offers and offer them there biggest payday and they still turn it down then his people need to put that out there and put them on blast. All im saying is GGG needs to force his people to put money on the table for these fighters to fight him. If they are offering these guys amounts where they can make the same money fighting a lesser opponent then of course they will turn it down. GGG is not on a Canelo or Cotto level where he gets all the money and then his opponents get scraps. IMO for a fight with Jacobs it should be around a 60-40 split with whatever money is on the table and the same with BJS. GGG expects it to be more like a 80-20 split with those guys which is not fair at all. Lmao, these dudes are asking for career high paydays though, many times wanting more than what GGG himself has made. Its not on him to dole out extra, its up to the opponents to grow some balls.

I agree all the way. As a fan, I want the best fights and those in each division to face the division's best. The guys refusing to face Golovkin are the culprits- not GGG who has been willing to fight any of them. So, Saunders, Jacobs, Canelo, Cotto, Martinez and all the rest are to blame. Chris Eubank, Jr. deserves praise but let's be honest. This is what any real fighter would do. Hats off to him since real fighters seem to be the minority these days. You're right, I feel the same way, I have nothing but respect for Eubank if he takes the fight, I just hope he does, Eubank Sr. has me worried a bit after that stuff he was saying the other day about Sky and wanting more money. I was under the impression they agreed to the terms then Sr was saying they want more money. To be fair though Jr just sat there quiet so it might just be Sr. yapping a bit just to hear his own voice.

I like this fight. From what I've seen of Eubank he can make a competitive fight with GGG.

Sorry I didn't read it all. Just keep it short, and I'm sure you agree that better frontiers are at 168. Read the whole post and you'll get your answer, it will take about 30 seconds of your life.

Saunders is more talented. Saunders has a better resume (CEJ, Lee) Saunders has a belt. Saunders is THE man in the UK right now not CEJ. I don't care if you had it a draw. Saunders was schooling Eubank for the first half. Clearly a level above if he can maintain that throughout a fight but he seems to coast the last few rounds like the Lee fight too. Saunders HAS actually shown he is on a different level if you watch the fight. CEJ never got the upper hand in any sustained period of the fight really whereas BJS did. CEJ is just more bullish & has better physicality than Saunders but overall I'd say Saunders is a better natural talent. Saunders is an akward southpaw, Eubank jr adjusted and kicked his ass from 6 to 12. Saunders won't live forever of a SD win over a quite green Eubank. Eubank is ranked numer 4 by BOXREC while Saunders is number 6 rightfully based on activity.

I ain't going to read it all that... The fact that greats moved up because of competition and they felt fighting bigger men meant something is all I need to know why I love the sport vs a division everyone, including industry writers, have criticized. styles make fights. not reporting on which fighters don't want to fight because of low balled offers is boring drama You read it, you just don't have a decent response. Styles make fights? What's that have to do with anything we're talking about? You're just losing credibility by the post. Have a good day.

nobody's running off Golovkin. again, if he stays at 160 fine, if he moves up, again, better objective convos about p4p. how does K2 justify merit for getting all the belts from 160? That's like saying some hip hop kid wants to be first to buy all the versions of a new nike shoe. unifications don't mean jack unless each council has a known champion. that's the point of Lineal or Ring status. Golovkin was promoted WBA and got the WBC gift. Beat Lemeiux for the IBF. So getting the WBO shows he beat Saunders to fulfill the legacy? If Golovkin is as good as he says he is he will move up and defeat the next champion indisputably. That starts his greatness in the rut hole he is in now. Or else Lil'G is miles behind from Chavez Sr. Huh? Unifying the middleweight division is like a kid wanting to buy new Nike shoes? You think his legacy will be better defined by people having conversations about his mythical P4P status than if he unified the division and possibly breaks the title defense record at middleweight? Are you just ****ing with me or trolling me or some ****? In a few years nobody will remember who you or anybody else considered the P4P best of 2016 but they will remember a record breaking unified middleweight champion, I cant even believe I'm having this conversation to be honest. It doesn't matter how he gets the belts, I'd rather see him collect them all in the ring and I'm sure he'd rather that as well but if the guys refuse to fight him it cant be helped. You think he should let guys who refuse to fight him dictate what he does with his career? Maybe if these guys would fight him he would've already unified and he'd be closer to moving up by now. Out of curiosity who is he going to fight at 168 that will make him the P4P king and strengthen his legacy like you say? Lets be serious, there's nobody that does that at 168 right now anyway. If he collects a belt or two there he'd be a two division champion, impressive yes but its been done a million times now by a lot of fighters, its not a great accomplishment. It would be if he was unified champ in two divisions but in order to do that he needs to unify middleweight first. Last time it was Sugar Ray now its Chavez, we're talking about Golovkin so what's your point? Who said Golovkin was greater than Chavez? There's not too many fighters I'd place above Chavez and definitely none that are still active, If we're measuring the caliber of current fighters by stacking up against Chavez, they all lose.

He needs to move up after this fight

you make it sound like every Lil'G fan wants him to stay at 160. Dude's 34. Like I said, could care less if he stays, but if he moves up, better for him and more stabilized and objective convos about boxing's "Best." What I'm saying is a top guy shouldn't be ran out of a division he's obviously still comfortable at and wants to unify because the majority of the division refuses to fight him, its as simple as that. Fans complain about too many belts per division and there's never a true champion because of it but we have a guy now that is one title away from unifying middleweight and we have guys pissed off about it calling him coward and **** saying he needs to move up. on top of all that he's a hand full of fights away from breaking Hopkins title defense record as well, that's impressive on its own but no no he should move up right?

There are challenges north of every division but its only GGG you want to move up, why do you want the top guy ran out of a division by guys that refuse to fight him? To me that's insane, you should be coming down on the guys that wont fight the best in their division not a guy that wants to unify the middleweight division, you've got it backwards. What do Sugar Rays have to do with the middleweights today avoiding Golovkin? It is quite obvious why. They want this playground cleared for Mayweather return. Even in his advanced age Mayweather stands a chance to outpoint some weak titlist and claim one more division. This is what they crave... But it is not happening while Golovkin stands in the way. So they parroting this "dare to be great and move up" mantra. But their motives are quite transparent...

They'll realize that more obvious challenges are moving north. But what would Sugar Ray Leonard or Robinson know about that... just sayin. There are challenges north of every division but its only GGG you want to move up, why do you want the top guy ran out of a division by guys that refuse to fight him? To me that's insane, you should be coming down on the guys that wont fight the best in their division not a guy that wants to unify the middleweight division, you've got it backwards. What do Sugar Rays have to do with the middleweights today avoiding Golovkin?

well for however long Lil'G stays at 160 people will stop to care and move on the next, and many will start to realize what others were saying all along. What exactly will they realize? That nobody in the division wants to fight Golovkin out of fear of losing? Somehow you think that makes him look bad? If anybody wants any success at middleweight they have to fight GGG, that's a fact. Him having a whole division running doesn't make him look bad man and I cant see how anybody would think it does, but you expect him to skip the division and run from a bunch of guys that wont fight him?

GGG has to stop this well they just dont want to fight me and are pricing themselves out speak that the GGG camp says. I know fighters are avoiding him but GGG has to step in and pressure his people to make these fights, even if he has to take a little bit of a paycut to pay these guys a little more. Its called paying it forward. He takes a paycut now to make these fights happen so he can make bigger money down the line with even bigger opponents. If his people start making fighters like BLS or Jacobs good offers and offer them there biggest payday and they still turn it down then his people need to put that out there and put them on blast. All im saying is GGG needs to force his people to put money on the table for these fighters to fight him. If they are offering these guys amounts where they can make the same money fighting a lesser opponent then of course they will turn it down. GGG is not on a Canelo or Cotto level where he gets all the money and then his opponents get scraps. IMO for a fight with Jacobs it should be around a 60-40 split with whatever money is on the table and the same with BJS. GGG expects it to be more like a 80-20 split with those guys which is not fair at all. I understand what you're saying I just don't agree with it, fights are only worth so much and its unreasonable to pay more for a fight than its worth for the people putting up the money. I haven't heard Jacobs or Saunders say anything about percentage splits for what's being offered for the fight, only Jacobs saying he doesn't want the fight right now and Saunders asking for millions, unless I missed something, which is definitely possible. I'm a fan of GGG, Jacobs and Saunders but I don't think GGG is wrong in this situation. If you feel GGG is not on Cotto or Canelo's level you cant expect the guys he fights to drag in money as if they were fighting Cotto or Canelo either, that's why I say a fight is only worth what its worth. GGG only makes a couple million give or take himself per fight if I remember correctly so its unrealistic for guys he fights to make the money they expect to get to fight him, if they actually even want to fight him. It seems they want to be set up for life financially to even take the chance of stepping in with him, that's on them, but if they want to move up in the world and are confident in their abilty they should want to be the man to beat GGG, that would boost them quite high in the boxing world. Let's not forget neither one of them are superstars or crossover type stars themselves so once again,a fight is only worth what it's worth.

You cant blame GGG if the middleweights won't fight him though, I always hear people say he should move up and that's fine if that's their opinion but I don't like to see a guy get forced out of a division because the rest of the guys wont fight him. People say GGG needs to leave the division because he cant get great fights, I say they need to fight GGG or be held accountable for it instead of blaming him. The guys refusing to fight the best in their divisions should be getting **** on for this not the guy on top trying to fight them all and being turned down. If a girl is raped this people would ask how the girl was dressed instead of blaming the rapist... that's how they are.

I love watching GGG fight. I think the guy is a tremendous fighter and I know he's the real deal. I'm also tired of the competition level this guy is fighting. I know guys are ducking him and avoiding to fight him but GGG needs to start taking some blame. He can't keep saying these guys are pricing themselves out or avoiding him. He needs to start making offers that these fighters can't resist and I'm not talking about crazy amounts of money but amounts where if it is turned down make that stuff public. As much as I love the guys fighting style, I want to see him in there with better comp. or I hate to say it but move up. There are a few fights at middleweight that would make him good money but also be able to make his opponent good money too. Fights with BJS and Jacobs is very sellable. I could careless about Canelo because dude wants nothing to do with GGG. The Eubanks fight to me is an ok fight. It's better than what he's been in lately, so it's s decent fight but nothing spectacular. GGG should be able to handle him like past oppenents. You cant blame GGG if the middleweights won't fight him though, I always hear people say he should move up and that's fine if that's their opinion but I don't like to see a guy get forced out of a division because the rest of the guys wont fight him. People say GGG needs to leave the division because he cant get great fights, I say they need to fight GGG or be held accountable for it instead of blaming him. The guys refusing to fight the best in their divisions should be getting **** on for this not the guy on top trying to fight them all and being turned down.

I think this will be a fun fight. Eubank has cajones

In Eubank's last fight, he showboated, but still got tagged by his overmatched opponent. He can't clown around against Golovkin like that.

I'd like to see GGG and bus but dude keeps expecting 20m to face him.