noob LOL?? Ok I'm sorry Gayweather.. I'll step only because I have other sh&t to do not because I'm ducking you. Ducking Mayweather LMAO, I am going to put it to you this way. Whoever in this world ducks Mayweather needs to join WWF or figure skating. Cause if you are afraid to get hit by Feather fisted Mayweather then you should not be in any sport that tolerates physical contact.
Yeah he's afraid of the knockout artist Mayweather?? You nailed it. I was surprised when Cotto took on the heavy hitting Malignaggi aka these days as Little Mac.
Did you wake up with a hard on thinking of Gayweather this morning. You had to post such a Retarted thread. WTF come on I like comedy but not this early in the morning. Let me know when you will be in Philly to do a standup show I bet you have some funny shit to say. I'll go
Cotto can stand infront of Gayweather for 12 f%4k 15 rounds with his hands tied behind his back and Still wouldn't get knocked out. The only way Cotto gets knocked out by Gayweather is if carried an aluminum bat with him to the ring and the odds of him knocking Cotto out would still favor Cotto. I take that back Cotto would lose by TKO or GTFU. All the running Mayweather would do will probably force Cotto to quit. Can you imagine the amount of running Mayweather would do if he fought Cotto.
**** Pac yall act like he is unbeatable..WTF Let me ask you Cotto, Margarito, Mosley, Clottey. Do you believe anyone of these guys would have lost to Dela Hoya or Hatton?? LMAO All would have knocked out both guys badly. So now Pac beats those two guys and now he's so fast that Cotto won't be able to hit him. LOL, I guess Marquez must be superior to Cotto in speed to right. Best of my knowledge Marquez won one if not both fights and he wobbled Pacman several times. When Cotto lands that first Left hook believe me your beloved Pacman will be running around looking for direction from a outgunned trainer. Come November 14th all Pac fans will be finally put to rest, sad thing is I have always liked Paquiao and everything he is about and have no disrespect towards him. Atleast he is willing to fight Cotto, it's not like Mayweather would ever do such a thing. Or at least Cotto hasn't achieved the same level of success of let's say a Baldomir. LOL, I'm drunk and don't give a ****...SOUTHERN COMFORT!!
Cotto got the home-town decision but Clottey landed more and forced the action.
Clottey didn't even look like he had been in a fight..LOL
Clottey won that fight.
**** how they looked at the end of the fight, boxing is judged on a round by round basis. At the end of the fight I had Cotto winning 6 rounds and Clottey winning 5 with one round tied. Cotto 1,3,4,6,11,12 and Clottey 2,5,7,8,9 and the 10 round tied and of course Cotto got 2 point difference for the knock down. I can see how people can say Clottey won because at the end of the fight He looked the victor but thats not how boxing is scored. Honestly If boxing was scored by opinions then Clottey clearly wins on the basis that Clottey could have fought 3 more rounds while Cotto was done by the 10th. eople forget how tough of a fight Clottey was for Margo. As far as the subject at hand Mosley had a ruptured ear drum and that was confirmed. Not to say that it's not usual for that sort of thing to happen. Cotto had his ear drum ruptured by the power punching Corley when they fought.
uh huh.....
and maidana hit ortiz with right hands not left hooks , cotto's bread and butter.
so what's your point?
ortiz beats cotto. not many people would think so but i do.
You guys are getting all hyped up with what PATRICK is saying come on.
Mosely doesn't want to fight Pac badly because he thinks he can win or lose. It's quite simple he want to fight Pac because he stands to make his highest pay day. I don't fault Mosely for that he himself deserves a big fight but so does Cotto who has put in his work against some of the toughest fighters in his weight divison. To me whoever gets the fight they deserve it. Pac does stand to make more against Cotto simply because Cotto has a much stronger following then Mosely. Mosley has never been a big draw for some reason even in his days when he was beating Oscar. Overrated? I would never say that about Shane he has fought a lot of though fighters and I do agree with him when he says he shouldn't have to take on the PW or the Clottey's. People have to understand he has put in his time. I would not agree with Oscar when he says that Mosley is the most feared fighter though. Mosley should fight Berto, then take either the winner or loser of Pac-Cotto or Money-Marquez.
His corner did not allow him to quit. Simple as that he had no interest after the sixth round when he saw Margarito still coming foward sort of what Cotto did. I'm not saying he did quit I said he wanted to quit. Cotto up until the 11th round caved in, it is as simple as that. To me people say Cotto got demolished by Margarito but look at Compubox Cotto landed over 288 punches about twice as much as Clottey did against Margarito just let look at Maragrito's face after that fight he could not see out of either eye almost. He kinda overlooked Clottey and didn't take him as serious he was the favorite to win not like against Cotto. The hunger he had against Cotto was totally different and can't be overlooked.
Mosley easily hits harder than Clottey, but he also hits harder than Margarito. Margarito's punch output and constant pressure made Cotto not want to continue and it helped that duke had some pop.
It's wierd though cuz Mosley landed almost as many punches as Margarito did. Pressure really is Cotto's worst nightmare.
Thats funny too cause thats Cotto's bread and butter. Theres many that thought Cotto's achillies heal was quick handed fighters, I believe pressure fighters are Cotto's biggest problems as well. You cam go back to Ndou back in his 140 lb days. He had all kinds of problems with him he put so much pressure on Cotto and although Cotto won the punches landed where very close. Which to me I see this fight being just like that fight, Clottey is a tight skinned muscular fighter just like Ndou both apply pressure but do not produce enough punches to win a UD against someone like Cotto. Clottey has a good chance don't it's a given for Cotto but I do think Cotto is in his prime and is a fighter who was bread to win these types of fights. Although I would have to say before the Margarito fight I also thought the same thing and we all know what happened there.
Both quitters with no heart, so yes, I agree.
And your favorite fighters are Floyd and Mike Tyson??? LMAO WTF do you know that school boards all over the great US have had discussions about changing the word Heartless and Chicken to Mayweather. Look it up CNN posted this on there website like a few weeks ago.
You have to be retarted if anyone thinks Clottey hits harder then either SSM or Cotto. Clottley hasn't stopped anyone since 2004 and he only has 2 KO's in his career the rest of his 20 are by TKO which to me seems to say that he accumulates his punches then finishes his opponents. People are being fooled because of his fight with Margarito. He stood his ground but after 6 rounds he basically quit. His hands where not found to be broken, he later admitted that he bend his thumb nail back. Seriously Thumb nail WTF?? People question wether Cotto has heart because he went 11 rounds with Margarito (a focused and motivated Maragrito) but they fail to mention that although Clottey was doing well the first six rounds he wanted to quit around the seventh. Watch the fight he had no intention of fighting after that and even his corner asked him if he wanted to go on. Which he kept replying my hand is paining me. Watched the fight last night and believe me he quit. Cotto won more rounds then Clottey and put up the better effort so lay off of the Cotto quit shit and for you Mexicans that say a true warrior would never quit like Mexicans I got two names for you Morales and Vazquez.
if u saw some of floyds few harder fights u would know he isnt heartless. get in a ring and then tell me a world champion caliber boxer is a chicken.. punk..
I have served my time in the ring you bitch ass.. 10 years fighting in the backyards of Camden, New Jersey 08102 read a little bit of our history before you call someone a punk. I have sparred with Prince Badi and Omar Shieka. So No I didn't make it pro but I'll call it like I see it, I ain't never backed from a fight and although I like both Floyd and Mike. Floyd is a ducking son of a bitch period. I tell you what I love boxing and have followed it for a long time but for someone to call Cotto Heartless when your favorite fighters quit before they even fight now thats heartless. I don't care what you say even if you are Floyds mother or father he is scarred to fight the bigger WW period. Cotto, Margarito, PW even Shane Mosley. Mark my words he will never fight either of those guys say what you want. Don't you guys find it funny he is always making excuses, you don't get tired of defending that. Shit I rather get my shit rocked and be respected then run and hide and be laughed at by real fighters. Oh and to #1 assassin I beat the Queer out of you.
You guy are just Picking Cotto based of Size thats it.!!!
what does cotto do better than JMM?
but this is boxing.
Skills pays the bills...
and skills has a bigger part in winning fight than size.
Boxing history proves this..!
Love your avatar, but if you want to ask me who's the tougher fight Cotto. You can argue all you want that JMM is better then Cotto in every aspect which I don't agree with but there are certain factors. Like Mayweather is much stronger at 140 against JMM then he will be at 147 against Cotto. Just because ring has JMM ranked at #2 doesn't mean shit. Cotto has one lost in his career and JMM has i believe 3 or 4 so he has lost as does know how to lose. I believe that if JMM ever fought Pac at 140 then he will be knocked out. Some fighters carry there power with them and some don't. JMM was having a lot of problems dealing with Juan Diaz power when they met and honestly if you think that he can beat Cotto then you just don't know much about boxing. Again looking at it as an outsider JMM is respected but he will lose, there isn't many giving him a live shot, take JMM and replace him with Cotto and what you have is a live horse. Although an underdog a live one at that. No disrespect to Marquez whatsoever.
Cotto needs to put on pressure, pressure and more pressure. Make each punch count and keep puching foward. I think many of the Cotto fans will be delighted to see the old Cotto in this one. I for one have come to like both sides of Cotto, first the pressuring machine and now the boxer puncher. Against Manny he needs to be in a tight guard and commit to the body lay down on his punches and Manny will fold like Judah. Cotto is a very strong puncher while Manny does get hit a lot. Many people tend to forget that Manny was not kow as a very good boxer for most his career, he took a lot of punishment in his career and has had some epic fights in the past. He has some miles on him just like Cotto. People tend to forget that because of his recent success against the likes of Diaz, De La Hoya and Hatton. Cotto will eventually wear down the smaller Pac and win by TKO in the later rounds.
He is better because he got knocked out by Margarito, while JMM knocked out a better fighter in Diaz, duh!
Diaz is not better then Margo! Diaz is overrated all he knows how to do is bury his head and throw a thousand punches. He shit for power and has no where near the chin that Margo has. JMM beating Diaz does not mean he is better then Cotto if the two ever meet at a chatch weight of 145 like whatr Pac is attempting to do it will be lights out for Marquez. Sorry I like JMM a lot and have a ton of respect for his resume but he can not beat Cotto if they fought. I'm not saying he isn't a better fighter. Just saying he could not beat Cotto at any catchweight. Cotto is just to big for JMM I don't care what there ht and reach is. When you have been fighting guys 160 for a long time as oppose to someone fighting people around 125-130 then believe me it makes a difference. Your body becomes accustomed to being held, leaned on, pushed and punched by bigger guys. Someone like JMM will not be able to stand toe to toe with Cotto. At the same point neither will Pac. Pac will have to utilize alot of the ring and use alot of angles to trouble Miguel. No way in this life will Pac or JMM rock Cotto let alone Knock him out. People are putting to much into Pacs last two fights against two shell shocked fighters. Cotto is far from shell shocked as mentioned by Freddie Roach. Come November 14th many people will be shocked at what will happen to Pac. You mention this fight two years ago and many would have laughed at the possibility of matching Pac versus someone of Cotto's size. Since then Pac has beaten two shell shocked fighters and now he is unbeatable. The same was said about Margo's chin and we all know what happened there. By the way it's amazing how many people are saying the Margo fight has made Cotto a shot fighter when he has won two fights since his return and Margo lost in a horrible fashion. I wonder who felt the worst affects of that fight Cotto 2-0 and Margo 0-1 since there war. HMMM???
I can see that most of you responded without actually reading it or you just cant understand anything. Im not telling Cotto to throw the fight. Im not even saying that he will lose. I could see him knocking Pac the **** Out. I could also see the exact opposite happening. Im just saying that it is bad for boxing if Pac loses this fight. If the biggest or 2nd biggest star in your sport loses then you want it to be against someone who is on top of his game, not against a guy who has looked very subpar lately. Its not like boxing is the NFL. It only gets hype every once in awhile and we just got alot of hype when Pac killed Hatton. If he lost to guys like Floyd, Mosley, or JMM then it wouldnt be bad because all those guys are beasting right now but Cotto seems to be going the opposite way. Basically Im saying that I think its pretty clear that right now Pac is the better fighter and if he loses then it will most likely be because Cotto is just too big & strong for him, not so much better
How in the **** can anyone keep reading this garbage when you say a fighter beat another fighter by knocking him out in 5 rounds and say he looked bad doing it. That may me stop reading this shit, honestly Cotto landed 118/237 50% compared to 30/197 for Jennings. I know Jennings is no Great fighter but he held a record of 34-1. Shit what did he need to knock him out in the first round. Are you kdding me, stop making stupid ass threads like this and you won't get ripped a new asshole. By the way do you see Cotto's fan base now. If that ain't proof to you that he is still loved and admired then you are not right mentally. Look here whoever wins this fight is deserving and will be one of the sports biggest draw.
PS: Many hits harder than Margarito. Bear this in mind.
WTF!! you sure as hell haven't watched enough boxing. Pac couldn't knock out JMM what makes you think he hits harder then Margarito? The problem is you have only watched Pac against the three of those guys mentioned above. Note they all had something in common. Dela Hoya (shot past prime) Berrera (past his prime) and finally Hatton (past his prime also chinny) If all three fought Cotto similar results. Please don't think pac has enough power to knock Cotto out. Shit even ROach has gone on record to say anyone who thinks Pac will just go in there and knock Cotto out isn't very bright. He said this will be the hardest fight Pac has had. Thats why he has gone on record to say he wants Cotto down to 143 the lower the better (WT drained).
I was a huge margarito fan, but that was no fluke Margarito alsmost got killed.
How so? The number one WW in the world is Sugar Shane all the credible lists say it, and Mosley beat the man who beat the man. If Cotto fights Shane and beats him then he is number one, until then he is second, and should really be third after Clottey.
You ever stop to think that as many people have said Cotto might not be the same after Margarito, that maybe in all likely hood it was Margarito that is never going to be the same after Cotto. After the fight even his trainer Capetillo said Margarito wasn't the same against Mosely his timing was off and his reaction time was bad. Just stop and think about it. Cotto took alot of those monster shots from Mosley and didn't blink while Margo didn't take them well at all. It took Margarito the same amount of time to get back into the ring as Cotto. It wasn't because he was still riding his victory there where talks of him looking slugish in his training camp from day one.
Well could you imagine Cotto running scarred from Floud, and getting walked down and TKOed sweet. I am all for it.
LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!! I can't even remember the last time Money knocked anybody out?! Honestly he hasn't had a KO in years!! I mean if he couldn't KO Marquez who is a much smaller and older Cotto I just don't see how the F#?k you can seriously sit back look at your keyboard and have the balls to let your fingers type that stupid ass conclusion..I respect that Floyd might pitch a shut out but KO. Shit he hit Mosley with 200 punches and could barely mark his old ass grille. I do remember when Cotto and Mosley fought much, much closer fight but Mosley's face look lhad a serious swelling to the right side of his face. I get it that Money is better then Cotto but to say he is gonna walk him down and KO is absolutely ridiculous! He has never and will never take any chances that can get him doing that little chicken dance he did last week.
LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!! I can't even remember the last time Money knocked anybody out?! Honestly he hasn't had a KO in years!! I mean if he couldn't KO Marquez who is a much smaller and older Cotto I just don't see how the F#?k you can seriously sit back look at your keyboard and have the balls to let your fingers type that stupid ass conclusion..I respect that Floyd might pitch a shut out but KO. Shit he hit Mosley with 200 punches and could barely mark his old ass grille. I do remember when Cotto and Mosley fought much, much closer fight but Mosley's face look lhad a serious swelling to the right side of his face. I get it that Money is better then Cotto but to say he is gonna walk him down and KO is absolutely ridiculous! He has never and will never take any chances that can get him doing that little chicken dance he did last week.
;10678726']Hell no. Please tell me why you think he deserves to be in the HoF?
He has a chance to be the first PR fighter to win a belt in 4 different divisons not to mention, his two loses where to two very good fighters PAC and Margs with one being tainted. Loaded gloves or not that first lost will always be tainted. For all those who disagree or don't like Cotto for whatever reason all I have to say is look deeply into his record and you will see the level of opposition win loss ratio and then you will have a change of heart.
Actually it was 3.9 million viewers not 1.9, 1.9 was the ones who watched the re-aired broadcast on Sunday. I don't give two shits if it wasn't pay per view. No one watched anything on HBO more in the whole damn year. In two days it totaled 5.8 million viewers lol but it ain't PPV??
And plus barring the size do people forget that JMM is a better fighter than Cotto is?
R u ****ing serious LOL.. Love Marquez but he has quite a few losses and if you want to go off of resumes I think Cotto's is as good as anybody's. So he had a draw with Manny doesn't make him a btter fighter. Cotto has more power, faster handspeed, better footwork, to me just a better fighter. Marquez one of the greats at his wieght has no bussiness at WW. So the fight with Mayweather should not even be consider anything to base your opinion on. Shit Cotto would trash Marquez at 147 if they met. Of course Marquez would handle Cotto at his weight cause Cotto would Die if he tried to get that low, shit he was heavier then that when he was 10
sorry man..but floyd-cotto wouldnt even be close right now..cotto is done at the elite level..he should fight spinks,angulo,etc,etc..floyd would most likely stop cotto
Let's be realistic who the **** has Mayweather stopped in the last 5 years???? OH wait no body. Shit I think Foreman and Paulie have more knock outs then Floyd in the last 5 years. That man would surprise himself if he knocked a man like Cotto out..He sure as hell ain't gonna stop him by punching him to death with his what 20 punches per round LMAO get off your high horse. Floyd might beat him 10 rounds to 2 but he's not a KO puncher or a bruising puncher to say the least
this...
come on man...yuri foreman? :nonono:
Has cotto EVER won a linear title?
he has always won the vacant title with the exception of yuri foreman.
and again ill say...yuri foreman????? :nonono:
Tell you what..you want to question his resume? when you compare his to your boy Floyd's it's not even close..Cotto has one of the best if not the best resume in the game of boxing today. Mayweather is undeafted I give you that, but if Cotto would have took the same whack ass route that Mayweather took. He probably would be undefeated too. Cotto fought everyone that he has had to with no restrictions, he bent down to Manny's demands and would do the same if he fought Floyd and at the end of the fight would not complain. I do believe he needs a couple more quality wins but all in all he is a HOF fighter. He has had a huge following from his arrival in the sport and that goes along way to making him a HOF fighter
Let's be realistic name the **** has Mayweather stopped in the last 5 years???? OH wait no body. Shit I think Foreman and Paulie have more knock outs then Floyd in the last 5 years. That man would surprise himself if he knocked a man like Cotto out..He sure as hell ain't gonna stop him by punching him to death with his what 20 punches per round LMAO get off your high horse. Floyd might beat him 10 rounds to 2 but he's not a KO puncher or a bruising puncher to say the least
I like Cotto but he did not look good in his last fight until the last round. Before that he seemed almost to be running from Mayorga, getting hurt and not being able to hurt him. I don't think 154 is a good weight for Cotto.
What fight where you watching?? He stood in the box all day with Mayorga and spanked that ass..Cotto will never come out of a fight without any abrasions or unmarked, as he does not have his defensive style but running he did not do against Mayorga. Then again judging by your screen name I can only imagine who your favorite fighters are.