Simple as that. JMM coming from 135 or Cotto at 147.
Mayweather fans are now saying JMM is tougher fight rather than Cotto. Apparently Mosley stomped Margarito who beat Cotto, thus cotto = shit???
Cotto has never been #2 or 3 pound 4 pound in the world.
JMM does everything better than Cotto.
the only advantage Cotto has over JMM is size.
now when comparing who will be a tougher fight for Mayweather.
if you say cotto...Primarily based on size..
then you are wrong.
Because if that is the case.
Then the Oscar of 2007 was and is a tougher fight for Floyd than a Cotto fight ever will be. because that Oscar was bigger, stronger, and had more power than cotto... and Floyd still won that fight.
Size doesnt always wins fights.
Skills win fights
Brains wins fights
Experience wins fights
If sizes always wins fights we wouldn't have fighters winning titles in 3 4,5,and 6 weight classes
Skills have a bigger part to winning fights
than size does.
History proves that!
Juan M. Marquez is a better fighter than Cotto..
JMM is better in every boxing catergory than cotto.
JMM is smarter and has more experience than cotto
and the only thing cotto has on JMM is size and power.
but is size and power tHe primary weapon a fighter will have to have to beat floyd?
when has that ever worked against floyd?
Zab Judah showed you that a fighter who has some kind of skill set will give floyd trouble.
Carlos Baldomir showed you that you will need more than size to beat floyd
Deigo Corralles showed you that you will need more than power to beat floyd
Oscar De la hoya showed you that you will need more than size and power to beat floyd.
So with that said...
How is Cotto a tougher fight than JMM?
From a boxing stand point can someone explain
Castillo showed you that size and agressiveness can give Floyd a run for his money.
JMM wanted to beat Floyd at what he's good at. And Skills VS Skills, Floyd is much better than Marquez. Cotto could have made it physical against Floyd.
JMM's punching power at 144 is non existent and his speed isn't there either.
JMM at 144 is not the JMM who fought Pacquiao.
WHAT THE FUK ARE PEOPLE SMOKING
regardless of even weight and the fact that Marquez is a featherweight not a WW, his style was made for FMJ. Marquez is a counter puncher, he is not very good at attacking.
sheer stupidity, Cotto is a much harder style for Mayweather because he likes to attack.
Cotto has never been #2 or 3 pound 4 pound in the world.
JMM does everything better than Cotto.
the only advantage Cotto has over JMM is size.
now when comparing who will be a tougher fight for Mayweather.
if you say cotto...Primarily based on size..
then you are wrong.
Because if that is the case.
Then the Oscar of 2007 was and is a tougher fight for Floyd than a Cotto fight ever will be. because that Oscar was bigger, stronger, and had more power than cotto... and Floyd still won that fight.
Size doesnt always wins fights.
Skills win fights
Brains wins fights
Experience wins fights
If sizes always wins fights we wouldn't have fighters winning titles in 3 4,5,and 6 weight classes
Skills have a bigger part to winning fights
than size does.
History proves that!
Juan M. Marquez is a better fighter than Cotto..
JMM is better in every boxing catergory than cotto.
JMM is smarter and has more experience than cotto
and the only thing cotto has on JMM is size and power.
but is size and power tHe primary weapon a fighter will have to have to beat floyd?
when has that ever worked against floyd?
Zab Judah showed you that a fighter who has some kind of skill set will give floyd trouble.
Carlos Baldomir showed you that you will need more than size to beat floyd
Deigo Corralles showed you that you will need more than power to beat floyd
Oscar De la hoya showed you that you will need more than size and power to beat floyd.
So with that said...
How is Cotto a tougher fight than JMM?
From a boxing stand point can someone explain
WHAT THE FUK ARE PEOPLE SMOKING
regardless of even weight and the fact that Marquez is a featherweight not a WW, his style was made for FMJ. Marquez is a counter puncher, he is not very good at attacking.
sheer stupidity, Cotto is a much harder style for Mayweather because he likes to attack.
Wrong ivan calderon is not better than JMM...
And Ivan calderon didnt challenge Mayweather to a fight..
JMM is a great fighter who is better than cotto period.
He brings more to the table from a fighting standpoint. than cotto could ever bring.
I Just need to rub this in some more..
I'm an admitted Cotto hater myself, but JMM would need to beat someone at least on Collazo's caliber for me to believe that he could even come close to being competitive with the top five of the division. I do think a lot of people are underrating him too.
the only people saying cotto is a tougher fight..are saying that based on primarily size....
and i would have to guess they would have thought
John Ruiz would have been a tougher fight for Roy Jones than Tarver.
and i would have to guess they would have thought
Ricky Hatton would have been a tougher fight for Pacquiao than JMM
and i would have to guess they would have thought Carlos Baldomir
would have been a tougher fight for Floyd than Zab Judah
And they are saying than Miguel Cotto is a tougher fight for floyd than JMM for the same reasons..
figures...
I just need for somebody to explain to me how stylistically Cotto is a tougher fight for Mayweather rather than JMM...
when stylistically JMM does everything better than Cotto!
:fing02: Last night proved my point..
:fing26: I would to say, **** YOU to all my haters...
And I am glad I am finally proven right..!!
Is that a joke dude? If you really think jmm is harder for floyd then cotto is then you need your head examined.
Cotto has never been #2 or 3 pound 4 pound in the world.
JMM does everything better than Cotto.
the only advantage Cotto has over JMM is size.
now when comparing who will be a tougher fight for Mayweather.
if you say cotto...Primarily based on size..
then you are wrong.
Because if that is the case.
Then the Oscar of 2007 was and is a tougher fight for Floyd than a Cotto fight ever will be. because that Oscar was bigger, stronger, and had more power than cotto... and Floyd still won that fight.
Size doesnt always wins fights.
Skills win fights
Brains wins fights
Experience wins fights
If sizes always wins fights we wouldn't have fighters winning titles in 3 4,5,and 6 weight classes
Skills have a bigger part to winning fights
than size does.
History proves that!
Juan M. Marquez is a better fighter than Cotto..
JMM is better in every boxing catergory than cotto.
JMM is smarter and has more experience than cotto
and the only thing cotto has on JMM is size and power.
but is size and power tHe primary weapon a fighter will have to have to beat floyd?
when has that ever worked against floyd?
Zab Judah showed you that a fighter who has some kind of skill set will give floyd trouble.
Carlos Baldomir showed you that you will need more than size to beat floyd
Deigo Corralles showed you that you will need more than power to beat floyd
Oscar De la hoya showed you that you will need more than size and power to beat floyd.
So with that said...
How is Cotto a tougher fight than JMM?
From a boxing stand point can someone explain
.
:fing26: I would to say, **** YOU to all my haters...
And I am glad I am finally proven right..!!
Horus im a mayweather fan but your bordering on ridiculas,please explain how jmm does everthing better than cotto when they fight nothing alike?????
Jmm is a far superior boxer than cotto BUT cotto is a tougher fight because cotto struggles against bigger men,he has never had trouble with samller men that he can bully and basically walk through punches,which he will be able to do with mayweather,you saying he has a weak chin,my god i really dont know where to sart with you,his chin was weak at 140,at 147 its been tested against the biggest power punchers in the division and he has not been knocked down...
Cotto hits harder than Jmm,mayweather will be pot shotting cotto and cotto has a big punchers chance of hurting floyd where as marquez does not,marquez and mayweather have the same counter punching styles.......
Cotto also swithes to southpaw during fights sometimes which mayweather has struggled with in the past...
Be a fan but be realistic if marquez was a harder fight floyd would not have fought him after 2 years off,ther demand for cotto-mayeathers is huge even after the margarito,man you really are embarassing yourself and mayweather fans....
I wonder if you still feel this way today.
was cotto a threat to clottey, mosley or margarito..when the going got tough cotto got on his bike in the case of margarito he ran out of ring:peeright:
cotto is no more a threat to floyd then oscar was at 154.
horus these guys have seen all of floyds fights and are convinced it will take a bigger fighter then floyd to beat him. they are really clueless since floyd spars qwith 154-168 fighters in sparring rotating them in for a full 15 rounds.:lew:
cotto gasses within 6, so he is no threat to floyd at all. clottey and shane got robbed because they fought him in new york, if they had fought in vegas you would have a different outcome.
cotto is so overrated and margo showed he was not an leite level fighter that could ever handle a fighter like floyd.
Brandish, why is that now people are finally realizing what most of us have been saying all along...?:wtf:
WHY?
I said this many many many times before and I will say it again..
Whats change in cotto style since 2006? When he wasnt ready for Mayweather and people were calling him green?
he still
Swings wide,
Waste Punches,
has a weak chin
Cant stop straight right hands or uppercuts,
and is under progressing in the lateral movement department.
and this is when he said he was still green....????
what did he improve??? to say
"Cotto is the toughest fight for floyd stylistically" ...what did he improve..?
Cotto has always had a good jab, cotto has always had good speed....Cotto is a good fighter...real good...he is a good body puncher and works hard..
so that hasnt change...
so what change so much that he is now ready to beat a fighter like mayweather...?
I have been saying this for years...:fing02:
Cotto does nothing in terms of boxing better than Juan M. Marquez. to say he will be a tougher fight for floyd than JMM.. just based on Size and Power
Just like Ricky Hatton did nothing in terms of boxing better than Juan M. Marquez to say he will be a tougher fight for Pacquiao than JMM just based on Size and Power
Just like John Ruiz did nothing in terms of boxing better than Tarver to say
he will be a tougher fight for Roy Jones just based on Size and Power
When will you guys learn size doesnt always win fights...
Skills win fights. brains win fights, experience wins fights...
and JMM beats cotto in all of those departments.
SO can someone explain how stylistically cotto is a tougher fight for Floyd than JMM?
and to think I argued this back in july...
How many lineal championships have cotto won?
how many ring belts have cotto won?
how many divisions has cotto been in?
Who has won the most vacant titles in the modern era of boxing?
need i continue?
Horus im a mayweather fan but your bordering on ridiculas,please explain how jmm does everthing better than cotto when they fight nothing alike?????
Jmm is a far superior boxer than cotto BUT cotto is a tougher fight because cotto struggles against bigger men,he has never had trouble with samller men that he can bully and basically walk through punches,which he will be able to do with mayweather,you saying he has a weak chin,my god i really dont know where to sart with you,his chin was weak at 140,at 147 its been tested against the biggest power punchers in the division and he has not been knocked down...
Cotto hits harder than Jmm,mayweather will be pot shotting cotto and cotto has a big punchers chance of hurting floyd where as marquez does not,marquez and mayweather have the same counter punching styles.......
Cotto also swithes to southpaw during fights sometimes which mayweather has struggled with in the past...
Be a fan but be realistic if marquez was a harder fight floyd would not have fought him after 2 years off,ther demand for cotto-mayeathers is huge even after the margarito,man you really are embarassing yourself and mayweather fans....
If Cotto had gotten to WW first and beat baldo and judah and it was Mayweather asking for a fight.
1. What would you say??
2. Do you give more credit to Floyd for beating De La Hoya to SD or Cotto for beating Mosley to UD?
3. Take in consideration that Mosley beat De La Hoya twice.
108-pound champion Ivan Calderon had a burner of a quote: "After I win my fight at the Garden on Saturday night, I'm going for Floyd Mayweather Jr. next, since he only wants to fight guys smaller than him."
Ivan Calderon called him out. Most likely Mayweather would fight him
Cotto would be the biggest test for Floyd and let's compare there wins:
Floyd at 140 POUNDS:
Corley
Gatti
Brussels.
Miguel at 140 POUNDS:
Malignaggi
Branco
Torres
Corley
Pinto
N'dou
Sosa
Maussa
Floyd at 147 POUNDS:
Judah
Baldomir
Hatton
Mitchell
Miguel at 147 POUNDS:
Urkal
Mosely
Judah
Quintana
Clottey
Margarito