Since the fight with Cotto and Clottey was signed, many jumped the gun stating Clottey would KO Cotto. But is that fair to say? Cotto took some hard uppercuts and right hands and Mosley couldn't seem to really phase Cotto much/
So how does someone like Clottey who hasn't KOd anyone in years going to have this overwhelming strenghth against Cotto being Cotto took shots from IMO a harder and more consistent puncher?
Discuss...
Since the fight with Cotto and Clottey was signed, many jumped the gun stating Clottey would KO Cotto. But is that fair to say? Cotto took some hard uppercuts and right hands and Mosley couldn't seem to really phase Cotto much/
So how does someone like Clottey who hasn't KOd anyone in years going to have this overwhelming strenghth against Cotto being Cotto took shots from IMO a harder and more consistent puncher?
Discuss...
He is not a harder puncher than Shane but he doesn't really have to be. Margarito is not a bigger puncher than Shane but he uses pressure and body work to break opponents down. The reason some people are saying lottey has a chance is because we don't really know how badly Cotto was affected by the Margarito fight and because Clottey is as tough as nails and keeps coming.
By your logic Maligannagie can KO JMM.
Shit doesnt work that way.
Clottey doesnt have the power, the volume punching nor the accuracy to KO Cotto.
You just cant simply choose a guy because he have a better defence and might have a better chin!!!!!!!!!!!!
thats the point in a nutshell. People seem to think Cotto can't take a punch. He's been hurt, but the guy has come back and won fights. Thats one of the reasons I became a fan of his. He's not an elusive Mayweather, but who is? Does that mean Cotto can't beat top guys? I think he's already proven that to be false. I think he'll prove it again against Clottey.
Mosley easily hits harder than Clottey, but he also hits harder than Margarito. Margarito's punch output and constant pressure made Cotto not want to continue and it helped that duke had some pop.
It's wierd though cuz Mosley landed almost as many punches as Margarito did. Pressure really is Cotto's worst nightmare.
Thats funny too cause thats Cotto's bread and butter. Theres many that thought Cotto's achillies heal was quick handed fighters, I believe pressure fighters are Cotto's biggest problems as well. You cam go back to Ndou back in his 140 lb days. He had all kinds of problems with him he put so much pressure on Cotto and although Cotto won the punches landed where very close. Which to me I see this fight being just like that fight, Clottey is a tight skinned muscular fighter just like Ndou both apply pressure but do not produce enough punches to win a UD against someone like Cotto. Clottey has a good chance don't it's a given for Cotto but I do think Cotto is in his prime and is a fighter who was bread to win these types of fights. Although I would have to say before the Margarito fight I also thought the same thing and we all know what happened there.
Mosley easily hits harder than Clottey, but he also hits harder than Margarito. Margarito's punch output and constant pressure made Cotto not want to continue and it helped that duke had some pop.
It's wierd though cuz Mosley landed almost as many punches as Margarito did. Pressure really is Cotto's worst nightmare.
His corner did not allow him to quit. Simple as that he had no interest after the sixth round when he saw Margarito still coming foward sort of what Cotto did. I'm not saying he did quit I said he wanted to quit. Cotto up until the 11th round caved in, it is as simple as that. To me people say Cotto got demolished by Margarito but look at Compubox Cotto landed over 288 punches about twice as much as Clottey did against Margarito just let look at Maragrito's face after that fight he could not see out of either eye almost. He kinda overlooked Clottey and didn't take him as serious he was the favorite to win not like against Cotto. The hunger he had against Cotto was totally different and can't be overlooked.
When the doctor asked him if he wanted to keep going he shook his head yes. I read an interview with one of Margarito's people (I think the guy that does translations with Margarito), they guy said Clottey saw them in the hospital after the fight. He said Clottey thought about quitting, but quickly said "No that's not how I end fights, because I am not that type of fighter." As far as I am concerned, he was in survival mode after 6 or 7 rounds, and out of his own mouth he said he would not quit, although it crossed his mind.
His corner did not allow him to quit. Simple as that he had no interest after the sixth round when he saw Margarito still coming foward sort of what Cotto did. I'm not saying he did quit I said he wanted to quit. Cotto up until the 11th round caved in, it is as simple as that. To me people say Cotto got demolished by Margarito but look at Compubox Cotto landed over 288 punches about twice as much as Clottey did against Margarito just let look at Maragrito's face after that fight he could not see out of either eye almost. He kinda overlooked Clottey and didn't take him as serious he was the favorite to win not like against Cotto. The hunger he had against Cotto was totally different and can't be overlooked.
He stood his ground but after 6 rounds he basically quit. His hands where not found to be broken, he later admitted that he bend his thumb nail back. Seriously Thumb nail WTF?? People question wether Cotto has heart because he went 11 rounds with Margarito (a focused and motivated Maragrito) but they fail to mention that although Clottey was doing well the first six rounds he wanted to quit around the seventh. Watch the fight he had no intention of fighting after that and even his corner asked him if he wanted to go on. Which he kept replying my hand is paining me. Watched the fight last night and believe me he quit. Cotto won more rounds then Clottey and put up the better effort so lay off of the Cotto quit shit and for you Mexicans that say a true warrior would never quit like Mexicans I got two names for you Morales and Vazquez.
People say it was a bruised knuckle, it seems to be a different story with every post. You keep saying he wanted to quit, but for the later rounds he was still there landing punches, although he didn't throw anywhere near as many as Margarito. If he quit, explain to me why he finished the fight?
Mosley is a bigger puncher for sure. Clottey is a good hitter but I wonder how much of it is cosmetic. His punches are pretty quick and precise and they look nice to the eye, but he hasn't scored a notable knockout in forever. His last two versus fights were somewhat disappointing (Flores, Alvarez) because, even though he largely, dominated he didn't get rid of smaller, vulnerable opponents. Clottey likes to let his opponent hang around for whatever reason.
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cotto has few ko and only most his KO record is TKO,like a clottey.
What are you talking about? A TKO is a TKO and winning a cuts against Zab doesn't constitute as a legit KO in the sense of the fighter physically not being able to continue.
Cotto has TKO'd 3 of his last 6 fights (including Zab)
Clottey doesn't have one punch KO power. Mosley is a bigger puncher quite easily. That's not really the issue though. It's all about the styles as they say. Cotto punches harder than Clottey too, but there is no way that Cotto will ever KO or stop Clottey.
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cotto has few ko and only most his KO record is TKO,like a clottey.
Not at all considering the difference in opposition. Clottey has 20 KOs in 38 bouts. Of those 20 KO's, 15 of them came against opponents with less than 2 victories on their records (12 came against opponents with 0 wins).
In the Margarito fight. Cotto took the second knee without even being punched.
That's not called being mentally weak more than choosing not to take anymore punishment than needed. Its only guys like you who ridicule Cotto for that while the rest of the Boxing world commends him for fighting as long as he did. You may find shame in that, but the majority of people don't.
Again, I don't make the comparison in punching power between Clottey and Mosley being the deciding factor in the fight. The point is that it seems like people believe Cotto will be a sitting duck for Clotteys "accumilation" of punches (which is almost an oxy moron being Clottey doesn't throw at a high volume when his opponent is on the offensive). But Cotto hasn't gotten to where he is by being pampered through his fights, he knows how to battle adversity.
I respect both fighters, but I just think Cotto is better than just letting himself be hit all night which people here believe will happen to him. I don't see that happening.
You have to be retarted if anyone thinks Clottey hits harder then either SSM or Cotto. Clottley hasn't stopped anyone since 2004 and he only has 2 KO's in his career the rest of his 20 are by TKO which to me seems to say that he accumulates his punches then finishes his opponents. People are being fooled because of his fight with Margarito. He stood his ground but after 6 rounds he basically quit. His hands where not found to be broken, he later admitted that he bend his thumb nail back. Seriously Thumb nail WTF?? People question wether Cotto has heart because he went 11 rounds with Margarito (a focused and motivated Maragrito) but they fail to mention that although Clottey was doing well the first six rounds he wanted to quit around the seventh. Watch the fight he had no intention of fighting after that and even his corner asked him if he wanted to go on. Which he kept replying my hand is paining me. Watched the fight last night and believe me he quit. Cotto won more rounds then Clottey and put up the better effort so lay off of the Cotto quit shit and for you Mexicans that say a true warrior would never quit like Mexicans I got two names for you Morales and Vazquez.
Clottey KOing Cotto has nothing to do with KO power. People are predicting Cotto getting KO'd because he is mentally weak and could quit at any moment.
Margarito sodomized Cotto on that faithful day on the 26 July 2008. In essence, Cotto is like a rape victim and is still traumatized by what happened to him and could result in him quitting.
This is my unbiased view
How can you prove Cotto is mentally weak? What signs show you that?
While I agree that Clottey is hungry and ready to fight, I also think people are overlooking Cotto's agenda too. It seems as if people are dismissing Cotto simply because he lost 1 fight and in the fashion it happened in. Prior to Cotto's fight with Margarito, many on here didn't even put Cotto and Clottey in the same league and though I think its right that Cotto and Clottey do fight, based on their performances even in the last 2 years, though I think Clottey will give a good fight, Cotto to me is still the better fighter all around and will prove it on Saturday.
Mosley is the bigger puncher but that doesn't mean Clottey can't knock Cotto out, I don't think Margarito is a bigger puncher than Mosley but he knocked Cotto out. (Suspicions about plaster aside).