And floyd is so good that yall clowns have to pick something going oh remember when so and so did this or that to floyd he landed that 1 punch in 1 round lol well all of those fighters lost to floyd. Zab was about to get stopped floyd was beating his body up zab actually has better defense than Pacquiao and extremley fast hands and more boxing skills he just doesn't have the intangibles, the ring smart's the heart , the chin etc. Pacquiao is squared up, so you can go to the body on him zab is angled from a southpaw stance so you have to be more patient for your openings anyway all those fighters lost to floyd. You remember when marquez laded that one punch on Floyd but even though Marquez is an all time great boxer Floyd made him look like he's never boxed before and when Pacquiao fought him at the same weight Pacquiao got his ass whipped lol
And that dude saying Pacquiao is an alltime great no he's not stop it man, that dude has only fought one guy that can counter punch his whole carrer and that's marquez, and he really lost those fights to marquez. Marquez doesn't have good defense his feet are slow and his hands speed is okay, Marquez is just smart and great at counter puching his good at knwing his distance little things like that fans don't know nothing about. There is a reason Pacquiao really only fights flat footed come forward brawlers, with no defense at catchweights.
Thats not Floyd fault that he's better than everybody in this era , but it's not hard to see that floyd has the skills to be great in any era, and i'm not just saying that other older all time great fighter's have said it. Evander holyfield etc have said it, i mean it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out. And Stop it with the Floyd Sr was anywhere near Floyd jr. as far as skills go Floyd was sparring alot of great fighters when he was like 17 giving them the business, didn't chavez loose to frankie randell floyd was schooling him in at 17 in sparring, and whitaker. Floyd always had the skills and thats for any era miss me with that bs of leornard knocking him out dominating him nobody is saying Floyd can never loose but nobody is knocking him out or dominating him from any era.
Mayweather by decision too smart. Nobody is knocking out Mayweather trains too hard too much of a complete fighter too smart, you combine the skills with the crazy work ethic Mayweather is tough for anybody to deal with in any era. Even though it doesn't happen alot ive seen Mayweather take some shots that would fold other fighters and he's able to take them because he's in great shape and a physical freak, he trains like a fighter that doesn't really have skills and is fighting for his life like he's a poor man or something. Mayweather is just as strong mentally as he is physically strong, because you have to be mentally tough to deal with the stuff he deals with he's not just fighting against the fighter he's fighting against the media and most of the fans too, Mayweather is a special fighter.
How many fights has jesse vargas had 18 or 19 all of them have not been on PPv but i saw a fight with some where it was a good amount of people there and he promoted fights for a couple of his other fighters as well overseas that guy quali i think that's his last name so he's making money off promoting or he wouldn't even be doing it and it's going to be better now that he has dirrel and gamboa.
26 mill-40% taxes-27.5% Arum-10%konz-Roach- Ariza Pac walks away with 8-10 million like most of his fights Arum keeps the rest Arum gets Pac twice 27.5% and the rest of the money cause he's the promoter. If the fight does bad Pac will only get his purse that's it just like the clottey fight Where vision quest said he didn't get paid Arum lying once again.
im forreal somebody tell me what punch is Ray leonarrd going to hit floyd with over and over to knock him out tell me how he's going to hit him over and over and over to stop him. I remember after zab got knocked out by kotza Zu or however you spell his name floyd was laughing at zab saying zab don't have no chin saying how do you get knocked out by one punch. Floyd can take a punch man in the second round mosley hit floyd as hard as he could twice and still couldn't stop him, so 1 punch from leonard is not gonna stop floyd, so in order to stop him he's gonna have to hit floyd with big shots over and over and over. Floyd is not going to stand in front of him tell me how leonard is going to knock him out it's not going to happen man. Mayweather senior was standing in front of leonard giving him problems and he wasn't jumping back or moving or nothing and he didn't really throw any right hands and his defense is nowhere near floyd, floyd switches to a high guard if he needs to Sr didn't do that at all i don't care what nobdy says Ray leonard is not knocking Jr. out and he will have major problems i think jr. beats him by decision.
dude what and i'm not even joking i'm dead serious who is that larry yx or whatever i don't post on here that much u can check my past comments if you can do that i just signed up to make my comments on boxing and give my opinion thats it.
Bradley looks like that because of his diet he doesn't eat alot of processed food he has a vegan diet plus he trains hard and your body will look like that.
Sr has one type of defense he only uses the shoulder roll and not effective at that . Jr doesn't if a guy has great speed and is a right handed fighter he uses both a high guard and the shoulder roll but the most important thing is jr. knows when to use them to take away an opponents strength's.
Jr. is not gonna just stand their like sr. did and get hit him the same punch over and over the right hand and not make any adjustments.
Sr hardley threw any right hands he could have hit leonard alot he's a sucker for a right hand, sr doesn't jab to the body well.
Sr didn't counter off the shoulder roll, Sr. doesn't seem to be a great inside fighter, doesn't make adjustments, not smarter has only one type of defense i could go on and on.
Sr isn't better at anything than jr they are different fighter's just because you do something similar doesn't mean much.
Sr is not walking an opponent down Jr can do that if needed. It just depends on what the other fighter's strenght's are. Once jr knows a fighter's strengths he has a gameplan that will help him win the fight, every fighter he faces is different and have different strengths and weaknesses so that why jr doesn't fight the same way ever fight. It's called versatility Sr. doesn't have that like jr.
Jr is 1000x better than Sr. that's why he doesn't need him in his corner to train him to win fights. He's better at everything and Jr has one of the highest ring iq's of all time he's brillant in the ring at being able to think quick under pressure he might see something and set a plan of attack off of what he saw in an instant making adjustments on the fly.
You can't do anything more than a couple of times vs a brillant thinking fighter they will see it as a habit and capitalize on it most fighter's don't have that gift. Two of the smartest that i can think of off the top of my head are Jr. and Donaire very smart fighter's. What do you think Mayweather was talking about when in the face off vs ortiz he kept on saying " You make any mistakes you have to pay" over and over it's a gift of seeing something as a habit and making the opponent pay for it alot of fighter's don't have that.
Don't compare jr.and Sr. Jr is lightyears better. Jr. won a title without a trainer Jr. doesn't even really need a trainer thats how well he understands boxing. It was vs baldamoir i think i mean Baldamoir or however you spell it isn't the greatest but the guy was good enough to be champion in that division but Jr. beat him with no trainer,i think roger was in jail jr. really trains himself anyway.Jr is gifted and a great fighter.
As reported by the NSAC i think Pacquiao's biggest purse is 7.4 million the purse he is guaranteed 25 million for the whole fight understand , so it's like Arum giving Pacquiao a flat fee of 25 million out of all the revenue and Arum keeps the rest of it. Well of the 7.4 million purse Arum takes 27.5 percent of that.
Mayweather's purse vs Mosley was 22.5 million then you got PPV, sponsors, closed circuit like movie theaters, bars, tv, rights, international tv rights, Gate, hot dogs, tshirts, all merchandise etc . Mayweather pays GB a flat fee of about 2 mill and he has to pay for contacts ,advertising, which is around 10 mill after Taxes and Mayweather pays everybody he will get 40 million but for the Cotto fight after expenses and taxes he will still make 60-70 million.
Pacquiao on the other hand gets 25 mill for the whole fight then you got 40% taxes i don't feel like doing the exact math but now you are around 14 million 27.5 percent for Arum now you down to about 10 million, Michael Konz 10% Now you at 9 million,Ariza a couple million now you at 7 and Freddie Roach now you at about 5 million after all is said and done.
Pacquiao is just a fighter so he gets a fighters pay. Mayweather is his own boss so he gets paid both a boxer and promoter. That's why his purses are so much bigger than Pacs understand. 22.5 million to 7.4 million to start off.
For those who don't get it Arum is really just giving Pac a flat fee of 25 mllion when you add up everything then after taxes and all that like Arums cut konz, freed roach, ariza he walks away with around 5million.
Mayweather doesn't need Pac to make huge pay days with the cotto fight After all his expenses he will see 60-70 million for this fight his purse to sart off will be about 25 million. After all is said and done he will see about 60- 70 million.
Pacquiao didn't want to take the 40million so he can go back to making about 5 million a fight.
60 million vs 5 million come on man!!!!!!
Pacquiao needs to leave Arum and become his own boss now!!!!!!!
Vision Quest told him he didn't even get paid for the clottey fight lol.
Leave Arum and become your own boss and make 40, 50, 60 million or stay with Arum and make 5 mill a fight. Pretty tough decision smh
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These dumbasses don't understand Mayweather will make more money fighting Cotto than 50/50 with Pac because of Arum.If Arum was out of the picture then Mayweather would make more fighting Pac
Thats why Mayweather was trying to get Pacquaio to leave Arum and offer him 40 million thats more than he's ever made. Pacquiao doesn't realize he won't see 40 million on the Mayweather fight with Arum involved.
That bs konz and them are talking about is a bs offer to try to look good in the media but even the media are some dumbasses on this they are trying to do Mayweather like they do Pac i will try to explain this so you can understand i know it's hard for you people smh.
Mayweather would be be splitting money with Arum not Pac, Pacquiao is just gonna get a flat fee from Arum like he does now, Pacquaio really is getting a flat fee dumbasses just cant see. His biggest purse was 7.4 million but he was guaranteed 25 million, the 5 million is what his fight guarantee is thats what he is getting paid for the whole fight understand.
Ima just say 7 million so people can understand, your purse and what you are guaranteed for the fight is different. So if you are guaranteed 25 million but i gave you your fight purse already which was 7 million how much more money do i owe you. I owe you 18million more dollars 25 mill -7million purse i already gave you=18million. All together his guarantee is 25 million when all the ppv and everything thing comes, gate and all that Arum gives him his 25 million and takes the rest. Thats just a flat fee Arum really just gives him a flat fee but gives it to him at 2 different times the 7 mill purse right after the fight
and the other 18 million when all the revenue comes in to equal 25 million that he was guaranteed for the fight. He's really not getting any PPV from Arum but he's too stupid to realize it. The fight might might cross over 100 million Arum gives him 25mill all together and keeps 75 million. Stupid Mothereffers. After all of Pacquiao expenses and taxes all all that he will end up with 5-8 million a fight after Pac pays his people and taxes. Pac talking about no PPV the mothereffer isn't getting ppv now but he's to dumb to realize it he getting a flat fee of 20 or 25 mill. Arum is doing no different than what Mayweather wanted to do but Mayweather just offered more money. Pacquiao is an idiot.
Mayweather would have to get his purse lets say for the richest fight in boxing history he could get a purse of 40 million but Arum said you are guaranteed 50 million it would be a flat fee like he does Pacquiao give Pacquiao his flat fee and Arum would keep the other 200 million thats if the fight grosses 300 million Arum ain't slick if you're not a dumbass after taxes and expenses now this is 50/50 dealing with Arum Mayweather would walk away with 45-50 million Mayweather basically makes that now and he will make more than that vs Cotto. Pacquiao will walk away with about 18 million now this is for richest fight in boxing history.
Arum not in the picture if the fight grosses 300 mill after all expenses and Mayweather would probably make 115 miilion Pacquiao would probably make about 20 million this is after taxes and paying people etc.
It's not that big of a difference for Pac with Arum or without Arum for the Mayweather fight but for other fight's it would make a huge difference for him .
Right now Pacquiao is gonna go back to making 5-8 mill a fight whil Arum makes 50-75 million off Pac every fight.
Mayweather will go back to making between 40-70 million a fight even after taxes and expenses.
Pac didn't want to accept the offer ok go back to Arum and keep getting raped.
That's like if you are an everyday working person and you made i don't know $9/hr and your boss came up to you and said hey i have a position available and i thought you would be the perfect person for the job it pays $36/hr that's 4 times the money you are currently making or have ever made in your life and you tell your boss no i don't want the position i want to keep making $9/hr that $36/hr won't help me with my bills that much but i think that $9/hr will smh
If you can't out box Marquez 3 times not once or twice but 3 times if you cant do that than you can't beat Mayweather im sorry.
Between the first and 2nd fights he waited what 4years to fight him again and they said Pac improved and all this in stuff before the fight. 2nd fight comes and Marquez schools him so in 4 years time you couldn't figure out how to beat a counterpuncher in 4 whole years you couldn't figure that out not only that but a counterpuncher who you are faster and stronger than and you still cant outbox him? Then how long was it between the 2nd and 3rd fight another 4 years maybe so you got 4 more years so in 8 years total you couldn't figure out how to beat a slower weaker older counterpuncher but you improved? So if you are Pac you are younger, stronger, bigger, punch harder and in 8 yrs you cant beat the guy convincingly anyway an you think he will beat Mayweather LOL. Oh and on top of all that Marquez defense and footwork isn't great it's not horrible but it's not great but somehow Pac is suppose to scholl Mayweather man stop it. Yall don't even believe the stuff you type.
Keep talking because you know Arum will never let the fight happen Pac is happy to fight Bradley and maybe a couple more fighter's who cant couner or box well and retire. That's good enough for Pacquiao fans because if the fight ever happens alot of Pacquiao fans won't watch because the they know Pac is gonna get schooled!!!!
Oh and his edge went with the ped's and roids hards to swing wild from round 1-12 when you don't have ped's in you.
Man stop it all the stuff Pacquiao has done outside the ring but we don't care about that it's what happens inside the ring and if they were to fight Mayweather will school Pac period it's just based off skills boxing ability fundamentals boxing iq everything Mayweather is just better.
Mayweather knows Pac has no chance at all without Ped's so when they both take the test you will see that it won't even be close Mayweather knows he's a great fighter naturally when Pac doesn't have Ped's in him you are gonna see that they should have never even put Pacquiao's name in the same breathe as Mayweather as far as greatness goes Mayweather wants to show the whole world that he's light years ahead of Pacquiao. If Pacquiao fight's natural Mayweather might stop him in the later rounds Pacquiao is gonna get countered so much it's rediculous. Pac is not gonna be able to let his hands go with all these punches because of what's coming back super fast counters to the face. This fight wont be close Mayweather dominates. This is not a personality contest this is boxing and even though Mayweather seems like an a hole in the ring he schools Pac period.
As reported by the NSAC i think Pacquiao's biggest purse is 7.4 million the purse he is guaranteed 25 million for the whole fight understand , so it's like Arum giving Pacquiao a flat fee of 25 million out of all the revenue and Arum keeps the rest of it. Well of the 7.4 million purse Arum takes 27.5 percent of that.
Mayweather's purse vs Mosley was 22.5 million then you got PPV, sponsors, closed circuit like movie theaters, bars, tv, rights, international tv rights, Gate, hot dogs, tshirts, all merchandise etc . Mayweather pays GB a flat fee of about 2 mill and he has to pay for contacts ,advertising, which is around 10 mill after Taxes and Mayweather pays everybody he will get 40 million but for the Cotto fight after expenses and taxes he will still make 60-70 million.
Pacquiao on the other hand gets 25 mill for the whole fight then you got 40% taxes i don't feel like doing the exact math but now you are around 14 million 27.5 percent for Arum now you down to about 10 million, Michael Konz 10% Now you at 9 million,Ariza a couple million now you at 7 and Freddie Roach now you at about 5 million after all is said and done.
Pacquiao is just a fighter so he gets a fighters pay. Mayweather is his own boss so he gets paid both a boxer and promoter. That's why his purses are so much bigger than Pacs understand. 22.5 million to 7.4 million to start off.
For those who don't get it Arum is really just giving Pac a flat fee of 25 mllion when you add up everything then after taxes and all that like Arums cut konz, freed roach, ariza he walks away with around 5million.
Mayweather doesn't need Pac to make huge pay days with the cotto fight After all his expenses he will see 60-70 million for this fight his purse to sart off will be about 25 million. After all is said and done he will see about 60- 70 million.
Pacquiao didn't want to take the 40million so he can go back to making about 5 million a fight.
60 million vs 5 million come on man!!!!!!
Pacquiao needs to leave Arum and become his own boss now!!!!!!!
Vision Quest told him he didn't even get paid for the clottey fight lol.
Leave Arum and become your own boss and make 40, 50, 60 million or stay with Arum and make 5 mill a fight. Pretty tough decision smh
Aw the Pactard above me is mad lol i forgot to add Phillipine taxes i just counted the U.S. taxes. Yes he has to pay 2 taxes. He getting raped by Arum but the reason he probably won't leave Arum is because he's too dumb to operate his own promotional company just stick with Arum and keep getting raped.
It's suspicious but not surprising im mean that what Top Rank fighters do they cheat from peds the loaded gloves to stacking their handwraps which is illegal it's just like having a cast in your gloves. They work for a crook in Arum and they cheat most of the time that's just what they do. Look up over the years all of these fighters that have got caught cheating were tied to Top Rank. Nonito hans were stacked last night when he shows his hand bleeding some body pull that video up on youtube of Pacquiao stacking his hand wraps before the margarito fight. I mean these dudes don't care who life they could end with all this cheating and you know Arum doesn't care he's getting paid and that's all he cares about by any means neccessary whether he has to fix a fight pay off judges pay off wbc Arum doesn't care and he's connected so i mean they're not too much you can do, if people would stop paying for these PPV and watch on a stream or go to a sports bar and watch it it might get their attention but if not you will never see the best fight's or a fair one dealing with Top Rank.
1. Bradley doesn't have defense
2. he comes forward against southpaws without moving his head
3. Bradley has good speed and is very tough that's about it his hands are not faster than manny's
4. Bradley doesn't have the power to knock out Pacquiao
5. all bradley is gonna do is try to rough him up the first couple of rounds until he gets hit just like hatton tried to then Pac will flurry and hit him with eveything cause bradley doesn't move his head well.
6. Bradley doesn't have the boxing skills of a Marquez or Mayweather where he can fight going backwards while still counter punching his opponent
7. He's gonna come to fight that's why Arum picked the fight come to fight means just trying to bully fighting without using your brain, no defense, no setting up your punches, not knowing when to tie up and clinch,non of that he thinks his heart will win him the fight his heart is gonna get him a great ass whooping.
8. look at bradley in the casamayor fight and devon alexander fight both southpaws man you think that's gonna work against Pacquiao lol this fight is one of the biggest mismatches ever.
9. Where is his Jab, right hand, countershotsfeints footwork against south paws real skills he doesn't have it he can't let his hands go cause he's worried about Pac's power he knows he doesn't have the power to KO Pacquiao or the boxing skills
10. Pacquiao by brutal ko or stoppage on cuts about between rounds 8-11.
ok ill bite. 1.8 mill/2 = 900k. 900k for hbo and 900k to floyd and pac (with an even split) so 450k to floyd and 450k to pac. 450k x $60 (ppv price)= $27 million now add in the gate, guarantees, sponsors and yes, they stand to make over 40 mill.
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Nope try again i don't feel like doing the exact math but Bob Arum gets 27.5% of Pacs purse right off the bat so im going to do some deductions you said 450k x 60 = 27 mill - 27.5 percent for Arum - 10% for konz - 10-15% for GBP- a couple mill for freddie roach - 40% taxes he's not gonna be left with hardly nothing. And all that backend money comes in 3 months- 1 year and half after the fight so how is pacquiao going to keep up with it he really cant that's how Arum takes almost all of his back end money if Pacquiao needs some more money Arum gives him advances that he has to pay back with interest but what Pacquiao doesn't know is that's his money to begin with he's making Pac pay him back money that belongs to Pac in the first place i mean it's crazy. Arum might go here is 500,000 he has to pay it back with interest then pac goes throught it then he comes back and goes i need more money ok here is 700,000 now you owe me 1.2 mill and some change because of interest but that's pac's money he doesn't know it so it gives Arum an excuse to say ill take it out of your next fight but it's all Pac money anyway
Vision Quest told Pacquiao he didn't even get Paid for the clottey fight but i think his guarantee was like 20 mill but you see how pacs purse's with TR are always 6 mill with 20 mill guaranteed or 5 mill with i don't know another number say 15 mill guaranteed well he gets the 6 mill before the fight but you don't get the other 14mill unless the fight reaches certain PPV numbers and overall revenue that Arum wants that's what people don't know. So alot of times he just gets the smaller amount Arum probably lies to him about PPV numbers and overall revenue so he can keep it for himself then when pac gets like 6 mill then 27.5 percent to arum then taxes, then konz, them gbp, he's broke really compared to what he should be making. That's how promoters like ARUM AND DON KING HAVE BEEN ROBBING FIGHTERS EVEN WITH A GUARANTEED PURSE THEY HAVE BEEN DOING IT FOR YEARS.
Then the fighter goes im geeting robbed blind then they wan't to sue but all Arum will do is counter sue and it will stay in the courts for years and with all the millions you would spend on legal fees it's not worth it ask Mayweather it beren 10 plus years and he still hasn't gotten those millions from Arum.
I don't feel like schooling y'all anymore on the business of boxing bottom line is Pacquiao won't make close to 40 million with Arum so his best bet is to leave Arum and take the 40 million and be able to keep most of it.
Damn yall are dumb if Pacquiao was smart he would get his whole guarantee of his purse up front floyd gets his whole purse up fron't before the fight. You don't get part of your purse then your promoter say ill give you the other half when this happens or later that's how his dumb ass keeps getting ripped off.
Then this dumb mofo above me talking about Arum has respect for the law man it's dumb people like you that allow arum to get away with the bs he does if he respects the law so much why was top rank offices raided by the FBI for fixing fights the effing government don't just raid your place of business for something petty. Arum is a crook and does grimey stuff all the time he can tell people like you anything and you will believe tha's why his excuses change all the time about the why the fight can't happen because he's seen that he can lie and tell you anything and get away with it.
WHy the hell would mayweather accept 45 mill when he made 40 mill with ortiz so the richest fight in boxing history he can make between 80-100 mill he doesn't have to give Arum 27.5% of his purse and worry about Arum robbing him. Pac on the other hand is not going to see 40 million dealing with Arum you would think his dumb ass would be tired of getting ripped off and leave.
Arum said even if Mayweather agreed to 50/50 that they still aren't fighting him on May 5th and i cant get the link for that if you want it's excuse after excuse they don't want it they know Pac is gonna get his ass whipped if he can't outbox Marquez there's no way in hell that they will be able to deal with Mayweather know what the hell you're talking about before you post !!!!!!!
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BECAUSE HE HAS POWER
and Clueless Boxing Fans Think Power Is EVERYTHING...
Bradley would have DESTROYED Maidana YEARS AGO but Maidana NEVER wanted to fight Bradley
LOL exactly that's it in a nutshell. People that don't know boxing think anybody that can punch is great smh.
They overrate Maidana like they use to overrate Gatti, May gatti rest in peace but you get the point. Look at Gatti man he can bleed to death and take a ton of punches to the face and can punch he's great man he has hall of fame boxing skills smh if you think power is everything you don't know boxing go watch MMA or something.
Look everybody knows Arum is scared to put Chavez jr. in there with Martinez wether they want to admit it or not.
Martinez beats the dog ish out of Chavez Jr. so let Arum keeping making up his excuses none of his fighters will fight a threat unless it's under top rank and the bigger star has advantages like catch weights or loaded gloves etc.
Arum can make up all the excuses and lies he wants i don't watch Top Rank fights anymore. The last time Arum let one of his fighters fight Martinez you saw what happened Kelley Pavlik hasn't been the same since He destroyed Pavlik now Pavlik is a drunk Arum is not gonna let Martinez keep destroying all of his fighters lol.
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Pacquiao might have really told Arum he was retiring next year, so Arum has to have a new PPV star once Pac is done.
Remember Arum tried to get Ariza fired i was thinking maybe Arum doesn't want Pac on the juice for the fight and he wants Bradley to win and they can market bradley as the guy who beat Pacquiao. Since Arum is only gonna get a couple more fights out of Pac.
Pac wasn't on the juice vs Marquez probably because they figured since marquez is moving up in weight and he looked bad against mayweather that plus marquez isn't some 1 punch knockout guy so they figured they didn't need it and he looked human Marquez put on a clinic
Arum probably figures if he fights like that vs Bradley pac has a chance of loosing which he doesn't mind because Pac only has a couple more fights but if they juice then Bradley doesn't stand a chance. Thats one of the few reason i think of when he is trying to get Ariza fired he doesn't want Ariza to juice Pac this time because he May actually want him to loose cause Pac might have manned up and said 2 or 3 more fights and im done forreal and we know how Arum operates arum was probably like ok while thinking of a way for Pac to loose Arum is like nobody tells me when they are retiring i own you ima teach this effer a lesson im mean i don't know that's what i think is going on could be wrong.
Um isn't floyd gonna make more money regardless or am i wrong.
lets say it's 50/50
Mayweather 50% vs Pac 50% -27.5 % Arum- 10% golden boy -10% Konz/ariza
Man it looks like Pacquiao aint gonna be left with nothing he has to pay arum about 30% 10 percent managers and golden boy he not gonna be left with nothing and Mayweather doesn't want to do business with a crook like Arum he still owes Mayweather millions. It really would be better for Pac to leave arum and make 40 mill he's not gonna make that with arum.
Ima show you a trick Arum and don king have been using for years to steal fighters money even though they have a guaranteed purse.
I dont understand why pac won't get his whole purse up front he doesn't deserrve this Arum's not the one in there putting his life on the line it's a shame man.
You know how Arum always says pac has a 20 million dollar guarantee but with nevada it might say his purse is 6 million well arum always gives Pac that before the fight the 6 million and he will get the rest if the fight reaches the numbers Arum wanta so it comes out of his purse 20-6 = 14 so now he owes Pac 14mill but the PPV numbers and gate and all the other revenue comes in sometimes 3months to a year and a half after the fight so how is he gonna keep up with the revenue. All of it is under Top Rank Arum is keeping all of the backend money and when Pac comes in mad like i need some money he gives Pac advances that he has to pay back with interest it's like he isn't even paying him he ends up oweing Arum money. Vision quest said Pac didn't get paid for the Clottey fight but wasn't his guarantee like 20 mill. 20-6mill now 14mill but the Clootey fight didn't do the PPV numbers so he did'nt get the other 14 mill he kept the 6mill arum gets 27 or 27.5% of that 6 million so lets say it's now around 4.5 million don't eel like doing the exact math but thats close enough. Then 10% to his manger 10% to Golden Boy 40% taxes he might be left with 1 million then he gets advances that he pay's back with interest Arum is doing him dirty thats what Arum and Don king do but when fighters realized they got jerked and you try to sue all they do his counter sue and it stays in court for years all the legal fees it's not worth it the fighters money isn't long enough to mess with these promoters it's probably been 10 years plus and floyd still hasn't got his money from Arum and with Arum being a former lawyer there's nothing you can do.
This is what Arum will do to pac for a Mayweather fight
Guaranteed 50 mill but give him 10 mill up front before the fight now it's 40 million guarantee Arum get's 27 % taxes 40% GB 10% manger 10% Freddie Roach 10% Back end money Arum is gonna keep most of that and gives him some advances he has to pay back like he always does he might even try to dabble into Mayweathers back end money as well and if he really wanted to there is nothing Mayweather would really be able to do about it. With Arum Pac will walk away with 20-25 mill tops and that's if Arum decides not to screw him real bad. right now After taxes and all that he only makes a couple million a fight. He should leave Arum and take the 40 million he's not gonna make that with Arum. No matter which way you look at it he's not going to make more money than Mayweather because Mayweather doesn't have to deal with Arum. I don't blame Mayweather for not wanting Arum to try to steal his backend money i mean Aum is a crook and that's that. Pac better leave arum and take the 40 mill, Mayweather is gonna make that regardless he made that with Ortiz. To all fighters get all of your purse up front not some ima give you some of it but you get the rest if this happens, you open yourself up to getting jerked.
I think you're right i think Arum wants bradley to win. Why do you think Arum was trying to get Ariza fired. I believe it's because Arum wants Pacquiao to fight clean and you saw how he looked vs Marquez, if he fights clean or without all that stuff Arum gives him then Arum believes bradley would probably win bradley will be a challenge regardless but if Pac is fighting clean Bradley probably wins. I think Arum really wants to cash Pac out. You can bet at all those casino's somebody bet 150,000 at one have one of your fmoney friends go to another bet 200,000 have another friend go to another etc, but we will have to wait and see what happens but i honestly believe Arum wants to cash Pac out!!!!!!!!!