Arum: If not Cotto or Mayweather, then it's Pacquiao-Bradley, Marquez-Peterson

Bradley vs Pacquiao is a great fight

If no Mayweather-Pacquiao, than I don't have an issue with Pacquiao-Bradley and Mayweather-Cotto at 154. I want Peterson to rematch Khan though. Marquez could fight other people. I don't mind Marquez-Peterson, but I think Khan deserves the rematch. It's damn funny that Manny has basically been forced to fight Bradley.

All he has to do is go to youtube and type in timothy bradley vs lamont peterson. If anyone can look at that fight and tell me that bradley has no boxing skill than they are an idiot.

only logical choice is Bradley, a sure firefight that would entertain the fans. Pac, do the right thing here :rofl: did you ever watch Bradley fight?

Um isn't floyd gonna make more money regardless or am i wrong. lets say it's 50/50 Mayweather 50% vs Pac 50% -27.5 % Arum- 10% golden boy -10% Konz/ariza Man it looks like Pacquiao aint gonna be left with nothing he has to pay arum about 30% 10 percent managers and golden boy he not gonna be left with nothing and Mayweather doesn't want to do business with a crook like Arum he still owes Mayweather millions. It really would be better for Pac to leave arum and make 40 mill he's not gonna make that with arum. Ima show you a trick Arum and don king have been using for years to steal fighters money even though they have a guaranteed purse. I dont understand why pac won't get his whole purse up front he doesn't deserrve this Arum's not the one in there putting his life on the line it's a shame man. You know how Arum always says pac has a 20 million dollar guarantee but with nevada it might say his purse is 6 million well arum always gives Pac that before the fight the 6 million and he will get the rest if the fight reaches the numbers Arum wanta so it comes out of his purse 20-6 = 14 so now he owes Pac 14mill but the PPV numbers and gate and all the other revenue comes in sometimes 3months to a year and a half after the fight so how is he gonna keep up with the revenue. All of it is under Top Rank Arum is keeping all of the backend money and when Pac comes in mad like i need some money he gives Pac advances that he has to pay back with interest it's like he isn't even paying him he ends up oweing Arum money. Vision quest said Pac didn't get paid for the Clottey fight but wasn't his guarantee like 20 mill. 20-6mill now 14mill but the Clootey fight didn't do the PPV numbers so he did'nt get the other 14 mill he kept the 6mill arum gets 27 or 27.5% of that 6 million so lets say it's now around 4.5 million don't eel like doing the exact math but thats close enough. Then 10% to his manger 10% to Golden Boy 40% taxes he might be left with 1 million then he gets advances that he pay's back with interest Arum is doing him dirty thats what Arum and Don king do but when fighters realized they got jerked and you try to sue all they do his counter sue and it stays in court for years all the legal fees it's not worth it the fighters money isn't long enough to mess with these promoters it's probably been 10 years plus and floyd still hasn't got his money from Arum and with Arum being a former lawyer there's nothing you can do. This is what Arum will do to pac for a Mayweather fight Guaranteed 50 mill but give him 10 mill up front before the fight now it's 40 million guarantee Arum get's 27 % taxes 40% GB 10% manger 10% Freddie Roach 10% Back end money Arum is gonna keep most of that and gives him some advances he has to pay back like he always does he might even try to dabble into Mayweathers back end money as well and if he really wanted to there is nothing Mayweather would really be able to do about it. With Arum Pac will walk away with 20-25 mill tops and that's if Arum decides not to screw him real bad. right now After taxes and all that he only makes a couple million a fight. He should leave Arum and take the 40 million he's not gonna make that with Arum. No matter which way you look at it he's not going to make more money than Mayweather because Mayweather doesn't have to deal with Arum. I don't blame Mayweather for not wanting Arum to try to steal his backend money i mean Aum is a crook and that's that. Pac better leave arum and take the 40 mill, Mayweather is gonna make that regardless he made that with Ortiz. To all fighters get all of your purse up front not some ima give you some of it but you get the rest if this happens, you open yourself up to getting jerked. Gosh, with your article you leave me in the dust. Everything you write is a waste of time and space. It's a collection of all the rumours and wild speculation over the past couple of years. Don't know how the hell you had the stamina to write it. There was never any 10% to Golden Balls, it was published as being a "tiny" cut, of at most around 3%, a G(depending on the opponent) which I'm sure Arum got back(plus a lot more) in his "undisclosed' agreement with Oscar after Oscar asked him for forgiveness. Koncz most likely gets a yearly salary and Ariza probably a set fee. The Golden Balls cut was agreed during mediation of a suit they filed against Top Rank for more transparency in non- Golden Balls fights. It saved them both a lot of unneccessary legal fees and was worth it to Arum anyway. Oscar actually didn't have a legal leg to stand on. As for Arum owing Mayweather millions, yes Mayweather sometimes says so, but if that were true, he could have taken it to court and Am would have settled. To Arum this occasional slander is a mere fleabite and he takes noo notice.

Pac's people have got to send Pac the memo that his fans DO NOT want COTTO I'm sure if Pac had a brain, he would not choose an opponent that even his die hard fanbase would not be excited for and possibly boycott Its not enough just being Manny Pacquiao anymore, and with the recent bad peformances and lousy fights given by Pacquiao, he should know what the deal is. only logical choice is Bradley, a sure firefight that would entertain the fans. Pac, do the right thing here

flomos are slow...pac's offer to take a smaller purse is already off the table. pac also said in another interview that he never said he's willing to take a smaller share so don't put words into his mouth. Well if that's actually the case, then that should settle THAT. Anyway, the words I saw printed (whether true or not) were "A lesser share: not "THE lesser share" which certain posters are flogging to death. Could easily be assumed that MannyP was expecting, say 60%and would now take less than that.

The boxing judges will try to screw up Bradley just like they did to Marquez against Pac. They don't want to screw up Pac/Mayweather fight. I say fukk it..its not gonna get made anyways due to that Jewish geezer. By "Jewish geezer" do you mean Al Haymon?

Wrong. The question you need to ask yourself is, how does Pac agree to fight for 6 to 7 million but turns down 40 million? Answer: Pac doesn't, Bob Arum does, who has been holding the fight up from day 1. Who the hell knows that Pacquiao fights for $6-7 mill. the guy in in Forbes as the 6th highest paid athlete. And think for a minute, if it were true that Arum turned down a $40 mill purse in favour of , say $7 mill ( by contract it could only be Arum, MannyP has no say in making money deals with opponents) Pacquiao could have a very good reason to have his contract with Top Rank voided. It's likely that $40 mill is a good deal less than he actually grosses from a fight. I believe, also, that Mayweather's "offer" was purely to try to make mischief between Pacquiao and Arum. All his escapades and pre-MannyP fight announcements are sheer mischief making. THINK!

Wooooooow I cant believe this ****. Im never buying a top rank ppv again, **** it. **** Bob Arum **** Top Rank **** Any stupid person who road along with their bull for the past 4 years. They just raped boxing of millions of dollars..every Manny event made multi millions because they implanted the idea into peoples heads that manny was better than floyd and he was the hero coming to get the bad guy. But really He just has his GED and hes getting ripped off by his promoter and his manager. These Nove,ber negotiations are more suspect then the timeline....... we will not see this fight until 2013 and thats only if there isnt some other option out there for Manny to fight or if Tim Bradley hasnt already ripped Manny a new ***.

i wonder how much manny makes with a bradley fight? A lot more than what your ancestors made since the begining and including the food stamps that you get nowadays. :nono:

I also think Bradley is a good fight for Pacquiao. Would be a very solid win for him.

How can it be 50/50 when Pac agreed to take the lesser share? Mayweather says a lot more than his prayers and why the hell should casual comments from only Pacquiao be expected to be cast in stone. Nothing is valid in boxing except by "signed, sealed, and delivered" contract.....and not always even then. AND...he didn't say "THE lesser share" he said "A lesser share". Which you probably know anyway but prefer to ignore.

What is wrong with excepting 40 mill guaranteed , how does it effect you and why do you argue about it or take sides , its a business offer and a dam good one seeing its nearly double what Pac has ever made before , but if he dont want it he can negotiate and place a counter offer , but Arum is quick to say NO we are gone ,,, Arum never wanted the fight anyway and Bradley was the first guy mentioned , funny how its looking like Bradley now , just like , if we cant get Floyd we will take Clottey , if we cant get Floyd we will take Margo , these are Bobs first utterings on the each so called negotiation , Bob always gets what he wants and the Pac retards swallow it all . We really have no idea what Pacquiao makes, regardless of reports, except rumour and speculation. As for his refusing $40 mill, that indicates to me that he likely earns a good deal more than that when he fights. Don't forget, his residual returns from all over the world come in for years after the fight, and Arum made his legal reputation as a tax lawyer......... My last comment is itself speculation, but far more likely that the wild statements made by the looney crazies every day.

Leonard didn't say that Where did you get the "Leonard" from.? It wasnt the original word, which was "Schaefer".

To be fair I think a lot of people would be real exicted for a Pac vs Bradley matchup! The only other legit fight in my eyes for Pac other than Floyd. He would be fighting what a lot of people have been asking him to do! A young undefeated black fighter in his prime! Fvck a Cotto fight!

Um isn't floyd gonna make more money regardless or am i wrong. lets say it's 50/50 Mayweather 50% vs Pac 50% -27.5 % Arum- 10% golden boy -10% Konz/ariza Man it looks like Pacquiao aint gonna be left with nothing he has to pay arum about 30% 10 percent managers and golden boy he not gonna be left with nothing and Mayweather doesn't want to do business with a crook like Arum he still owes Mayweather millions. It really would be better for Pac to leave arum and make 40 mill he's not gonna make that with arum. Ima show you a trick Arum and don king have been using for years to steal fighters money even though they have a guaranteed purse. I dont understand why pac won't get his whole purse up front he doesn't deserrve this Arum's not the one in there putting his life on the line it's a shame man. You know how Arum always says pac has a 20 million dollar guarantee but with nevada it might say his purse is 6 million well arum always gives Pac that before the fight the 6 million and he will get the rest if the fight reaches the numbers Arum wanta so it comes out of his purse 20-6 = 14 so now he owes Pac 14mill but the PPV numbers and gate and all the other revenue comes in sometimes 3months to a year and a half after the fight so how is he gonna keep up with the revenue. All of it is under Top Rank Arum is keeping all of the backend money and when Pac comes in mad like i need some money he gives Pac advances that he has to pay back with interest it's like he isn't even paying him he ends up oweing Arum money. Vision quest said Pac didn't get paid for the Clottey fight but wasn't his guarantee like 20 mill. 20-6mill now 14mill but the Clootey fight didn't do the PPV numbers so he did'nt get the other 14 mill he kept the 6mill arum gets 27 or 27.5% of that 6 million so lets say it's now around 4.5 million don't eel like doing the exact math but thats close enough. Then 10% to his manger 10% to Golden Boy 40% taxes he might be left with 1 million then he gets advances that he pay's back with interest Arum is doing him dirty thats what Arum and Don king do but when fighters realized they got jerked and you try to sue all they do his counter sue and it stays in court for years all the legal fees it's not worth it the fighters money isn't long enough to mess with these promoters it's probably been 10 years plus and floyd still hasn't got his money from Arum and with Arum being a former lawyer there's nothing you can do. This is what Arum will do to pac for a Mayweather fight Guaranteed 50 mill but give him 10 mill up front before the fight now it's 40 million guarantee Arum get's 27 % taxes 40% GB 10% manger 10% Freddie Roach 10% Back end money Arum is gonna keep most of that and gives him some advances he has to pay back like he always does he might even try to dabble into Mayweathers back end money as well and if he really wanted to there is nothing Mayweather would really be able to do about it. With Arum Pac will walk away with 20-25 mill tops and that's if Arum decides not to screw him real bad. right now After taxes and all that he only makes a couple million a fight. He should leave Arum and take the 40 million he's not gonna make that with Arum. No matter which way you look at it he's not going to make more money than Mayweather because Mayweather doesn't have to deal with Arum. I don't blame Mayweather for not wanting Arum to try to steal his backend money i mean Aum is a crook and that's that. Pac better leave arum and take the 40 mill, Mayweather is gonna make that regardless he made that with Ortiz. To all fighters get all of your purse up front not some ima give you some of it but you get the rest if this happens, you open yourself up to getting jerked.

ARUM: IF NOT COTTO OR MAYWEATHER, THEN IT'S PACQUIAO-BRADLEY, MARQUEZ-PETERSON by Lem Satterfield Jan 26th, 2012 Having all but dismissed May as a month during which Floyd Mayweather Jr., could face Manny Pacquiao, Top Rank CEO Bob Arum told ******.com that he is considering a four-man tournament scenario should he fail to complete a proposed rematch between WBO welterweight beltholder Pacquiao and WBA junior middleweight beltholder Miguel Cotto for June 9 in Las Vegas. The tournament would also hinge on whether or not Arum could secure a November match between Mayweather and Pacquiao. If not, then Arum would match Pacquiao against WBO junior welterweight titleholder Tim Bradley, and RING lightweight champ Juan Manuel Marquez against IBF/WBA junior welterweight titleholder Lamont Peterson "somewhere around the same time" this spring, Arum said on Thursday. The Pacquiao-Bradley, Marquez-Peterson winners would be matched in November if Mayweather is not available in the event that Pacquao defeats Bradley. Bradley, Cotto, Marquez and Peterson were all being considered, along with WBC welterweight beltholder Mayweather, as potential opponents for WBO welterweight titleholder Pacquiao, although Cotto emerged as the frontrunner heading into this past week. But the negotiations appear to have stalled over the issue of weight: Pacquiao doesn't want to fight above the 147-pound welterweight limit, and Cotto does not want to drop to it. Cotto's advisor, Gaby Penagaricano, could not immediatley be reached, although he has also acknowledged that Cotto has had talks with the Mayweather camp about a potential fight. In addition, Mayweather is slated to begin an 87-day jail sentence staring on June 1, and has targeted May 5 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas for his next bout. But Arum and Pacquiao's promoter, Michael Koncz, have dismissed that date for Mayweather-Pacquiao, citing their camp's desire to construct a 40,000-seat, temporary outdoor venue near the Las Vegas Strip in late May or early-June to maximize revenue. "We could have a tournament. Let's say that if Mayweather doesn't ever come to the table, which is a possibility," said Arum. "Then let's say that Manny fights Bradley because Cotto has a problem with the weight, then Marquez fights Peterson, and the winner of that fights fights the winner of Pacquiao-Bradley -- if that's the fight that we make." Leonard Ellerbe, CEO of Mayweather Promotions, could not be reached. But the notion of a tournament absent a Mayweather-Pacquiao fight wrankled Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer, who handles Mayweather. "I could give a s--t about Arum's bulls--t tournament. It just goes to show you that he's already saying what he's going to do in November. He had no intentions of doing a Pacquiao fight with Mayweather. I hope that the public realizes that this guy did not want the fight. He's already talking about a tournament. So let him do and do his bulls--t tournament," said Schaefer. "The fact is that at least he realizes that he's having two semi-main events with the winners fighting each other. We believe that the time for doing tuneups and lead-ins, that that time has come and gone. We believe in only promoting main events. Every one of our fights is a final. There is no semi-main event, as he is suggesting here with this tournament. But I couldn't really care. Let him go and do that. "We knew all along and we have been saying that he has had zero - -and you can print ZERO in capital letters -- intentions of ever making a Mayweahter-Pacquiao fight. Otherwise, he would have called and he knows exactly who is putting the fights together. But he's had no intentions of sitting down with me and getting the fight done because he knows that his bulls--t won't fly withg me and that I see right through him." The rest is at Ring TV. Includes a interview with Arum :lol1: :lol1:

Don't want to see a Pac-Cotto rematch. I prefer this one, hopefully its all in one card.

Pacquiao will need 6months to heal from the Bradley headbuts. Mayweather vs Pacquiao 2013!!