When I started to think about it, the 40 mil offer is better then 50/50 for PAc.
Here is why.
Lets say the ppv makes 1.8 mil buys at 65-70 $.
Thats 63 mil when you split it 50/50.
When Pac carries a PPV they get around a 1.3 mil ppv buys at most and 100% of the revenues is kept within TR and yet Pac gets less then 30 mil all and all.
Now if you split the it 50/50 with GB and MAyweather it would equal as them getting 900k of the ppv buys.
If Pac gets his usual ppv share from TR, how the fukk will get anything close to 40 mil?
From 900k?
The highest PAc has gotten from a ppv share is something around 20-25 mil and even some of it gets scammed out of his hands by Bob Arum and Michael Koncz.
the 40 mil could be a way to cut Bob Arum out of the juicy Pie.
Ofc Bob gets some from Pac's flat rate but still, nothing close to the ppv.
It would be a big fukk you to Bob and PAc gets more money than he has gotten in his entire career.
(Don't move this tread banstick plz.
It's impossible to discuss this on the super tread)
i'm telling you people right now.....
Think it through..
PAcman has a contract with TR right?
If Pac makes less than 30 mil in his biggest PPV (JMM 3, 1.4 mil) and TR keeps 100% of the ppv within Top Rank.....
How the faaaakk.... Will he make soooo much more with Floyd if Floyds Go 50/50 with Top Rank and it reaches it's projected 1.8 mil ppv?
The fight would have to get close 2.8 mil for PAc to get close to the share he got in JMM 3 fight...
That will never ever ever ever ever happen.
Not even close.
The Live gate will never reach over 20 mil since Pacs live gate with Marquez was 11 mil $.
Both JMM and Pac has a huge ethnic following but yet they didn't break the 20 mil $ Record Floyd-ODLH broke.
How could Pac vs Floyd ever exceed 20 mil live gate?
Than split the lvie gate into 50/50, now you have 10 mil each.....
Will PAc make more money from the live gate than he did with JMM?
How fakking hard is this to understand?
Floyd refuse to point out the beef with Arum due to legal implications.
Floyd is also extremely verbally clumsy making it easy for haters to use anything he says against him.
Objectively neither party will make will not earn much with 50/50.
Only way it's viable is if one party takes the lion share.
Pac has never been close to making 40 mil in his career, yet he will magically gets a new contract that would earn him more from a ppv projected to make 1.8 mil, plit it into 50/50 (which would equal a 900k ppv) will earn him muuuuch more than what he earned in JMM3 from a ppv that made 1.4 mil.
GTFO!
I really can't believe you people!!!
Floyd says 50/50 OK but I want blood tests
Pacquiao agrees to the blood tests, now Floyd says 50/50 is no go. And has offered 70/30, 60/40, and now a flat rate of 40 million which will be a lot less than $50m.
If any of you think that $40m is a good deal, then why hasn't Floyd snapped up the $45m offered to him.
Since the two years since Floyd and Pacquiao agreed to a 50/50 split, Pacquiao has doubled Floyd's PPV buys in that period and has sold more PPV buys in a single fight than Floyd has.
This has nothing to do with money, or Floyd being greedy or a diva, it only comes down to one thing. Floyd does not want to fight Pacquiao.
11/12/11 vs marquez pacqiao made-$6,000,000
05/07/11 vs mosley pacqiao made-$6,000,000
11/14/09 vs cotto pacqiao made-$7,400,000
05/02/09 vs hatton pacqiao made-$7,400,000
12/06/08 vs delahoya pacquiao made-$6,600,000
06/28/08 vs diaz pacqiao made-$3,000,000
03/15/08 vs marquez he made-$3,000,000
10/06/07 vs MAB he made-$2,000,000
11/18/06 vs morales he made-$3,000,000
01/21/06 vs morales he made-$2,000,000
Total:$46,400,000 for pacquiao (his fights against clottey and margarita were outside NSAC's jurisdiction,,, but shouldnt have done more then 7.9 million$
09/17/11 vs ortiz mayweather made $25,000,000
05/01/10 vs mosley mayweather made $22,500,000
09/19/09 vs marquez mayweather made $10,000,000
12/08/07 vs hatton mayweather made $11,000,000
05/05/07 vs delahoya mayweather made $10,000.000
11/04/06 vs baldo mayweather made $8,000,001
04/08/06 vs zab mayweather made $5,000,000
40 million would be more then pacquiaos makin currently
you're a tool if you believe that's all pac made.
here's an article from the flomos favorite boxing blogger Ben Thompson. he estimates PAC earned 25M from the 3rd JMM fight.
http://fighthype.com/pages/content11641.html
i wouldn't even give the boring boxer 40 if i were pac. most of pbf's fights are rip offs. pbf is not even half the star pac is. check the videos on my sig.
pac is in the league of tyson, srl, duran, ali, etc. mayweather doesn't belong there. majority of fans watch his fights to see him lose. on tyson's fights, et al, fans just want to see fights. real fights. not boring fights.
this is what happens when a small minority of fans overrate a boring boxer. the overrating was exacerbated by cock roach's chasing. freddy needs to stop going after the diva. it's not worth it.
:bigeyes:
What they should do is 60/40 to the winner n man up and fight, cause lets be honest if you make over $50million u arent really losing. Hell i would fight mike tyson with no gloves on 4 $50million (first thing i would say after coming out of the coma is has my cheque cleared)
It's a good first offer, especially if that offer doesn't involve whatever Top rank/ Arum , if it's a restrictly Paq offer then it's not bad for a first offer.
If the 40 mills is strictly straight to PAC and Floyd will deal with Arum and the rest, I think PAC should take it :lol1:. But we all know that's not what it is. Who give a sh!t if they only sell 500k PPV, just give his 50/50 and it's on. Floyd can take his half and PAC can take his half. Whatever PAC does to his half is his business. Even if he decide to give it all to Arum who care, just make it fair and split it evenly.
LOL at yall even THINKING you have a clue how much the fighters REALLY make at the end of it all.
Floyd told Pac he did not deserve 50-50 and turned it down. Why would he then follow that with an offer that (as you claim) is better than 50-50? that would be retarded
this would be one of the biggest fights in history. at least for this generation. pac could very well make over 40 mil, and dont act like you know he wouldnt
The problem the logic the ts uses is that it works under the assumption that floyd makes more than 50mil fighting anyone else besides pacquiao.
Pac-floyd is the biggest ppv fight in history and expected to easily smash the current record of 2.3mil. 2.3mil ppv buys at 60 a pop is already 138mil in revenue. Cut that in half and its already far more than the measly 40mil floyd offered. And remember this fight is expected to do at least 2.5mil and the extra 5bucks per buy for high def is gonna drive the revenur even higher.
So no matter how you look at it the 40mil offer is a slap to pac's face. 50/50 is at least a 10million difference. How much pac wants to give to arum or anyone else after the fact is his business and noone elses.
No wonder so many people get scammed every day and swindled out their money.
There are just so many gullible people in the world that if the right person says something the will believe with it, and then convince themselves that it must be true with warped logic.
I wonder what the next thing Floyd will take of the table, no Cleto Reyes gloves allowed or 154lbs the fight has to be at.
Then we will hear, Floyd is using Grant so why can't Manny and Manny fought a 154lbs title.
Some of you are jokes.
I really hope you don't believe some of the stuff you type, to think that someone can be so easily manipulated.
Guess you can't understand what a contract means.
And 50/50 was the first offer.
Maybe Floyd took that off the table too, because that could make the fight more likely.
Sorry i dont discuss boxing with retards!!! :drive:
Again 40M is a good first offer for Paq alone, If this was a direct offer at Paq and he get 40M without Arum taking anything away from him then that isnt bad, If the offer includes his regular settling of Arum (27.5%) then nope..
Guess you can't understand what a contract means.
And 50/50 was the first offer.
Maybe Floyd took that off the table too, because that could make the fight more likely.
Again 40M is a good first offer for Paq alone, If this was a direct offer at Paq and he get 40M without Arum taking anything away from him then that isnt bad, If the offer includes his regular settling of Arum (27.5%) then nope..
If the $40m is such a good offer then why isn't Floyd bitting Uncle Bob's hand off at the $45m offer?
$40m equates to something like a 70/30 split of what the projections say how well this fight will do, and it could even exceed that.
Floyd knows it, Pacquiao knows it and Arum knows it too. This offer from Floyd is to do one thing and one thing only.
TO STOP THE FIGHT FROM HAPPENING
50/50 was agreed before, but now that Manny has agreed to all of Floyd's testing demands, Floyd can't use the take the test excuse so he needs a new one.
Floyd's ducking behavior is embarrassing but some of you guys are far worse for eating up all the BS he dishes out.
It's a good first offer, especially if that offer doesn't involve whatever Top rank/ Arum , if it's a restrictly Paq offer then it's not bad for a first offer.
What first offer.. There should only be one offer...50/50..
It's a good first offer, especially if that offer doesn't involve whatever Top rank/ Arum , if it's a restrictly Paq offer then it's not bad for a first offer.