personally speaking, iv,e watched most if not all of manny,s fights and i see absolutely no change in him since roach took charge, his punch output,defence,footwork,stamima etc have basically remained unchanged. i read some articles were roach stated that he gave manny a right hand!!? "in what fight?? iv,e failed to spot were suddenly manny,s gotten this right hand and it,s much more evident now than from his previous fights, and furthermore, freddie said that the pacquaio that was fighting marquez in 2012 was a completely different pacquaio that fought him in 2008, and would totally overpower marquez and knock him out!!! marquez actually done better this time round and i had marquez winning that fight, which blew everything that freddie had said out of the water. finally, i know you don,t need the credentials of an ATG to be a top trainer, but freddie,s got a record which boasts 13 loses on his own record as a fighter, and why did he not teach himself some of the tricks then, which he,s seemingly trying to teach to his fighters now!! was freddie a slow learner?
Body shots. Still don't think that will work, but something along the line of what JLC was doing.
oh really? bullrushing and hitting floyds arms and shoulders for 12 rounds beats him? oh really!! it did,nt work 1st and it sure did,nt work the second time straight after......any other idea,s?
@el puas..... you telling yourself jokes? khan will beat floyd..hahahaha. are you not embarassed coming on here and saying that? it makes you look very silly. in fact i think you need to apologise and pretend you were drunk when you threaded.
if you had marquez winning this fight, you are a damn retard
absolute dipsht of the highest order
@check the punch stats. marquez outlanded pac in both fights, so in all it was pac that got the gift in both fights. many people think pac should have 5 loses.
Who's celebrity is Pacquiao's new hairdo looks alike?
he looks like benny out of pop group ABBA, singalong......money money money, pac,s hairdoo is funny, he looks just like a nerd, ah ha, ha ha ha ha, floyds got all the money.lol.
Are his fights really not televised at all in the UK? That would be amazing to me. He's an exciting fighter with a solid resume, a world title, and a big mouth. How is he not anywhere near as popular as Calzaghe?
hes not as popular as calzaghe was cuz joe was well liked and froch was calling him out on a regular basis after he beat robin reid by ko, reid took calzaghe to a S.D,yeah it was a few years earlier but was still a great win for froch...i still think calzaghe knew froch was too strong for him.
He is the only trainer in the history of boxing who won BWAA Best Trainer of the Year five times. If he is not the greatest, he is one of the greatest.
roach feeds the BWAA with a lot of bullsh@t on a daily basis keeping them sweet so of course they feel obliged to sway their vote. hes more a fitness trainer, pacs been with him 7/8 years and still pacs defence is pathetic, but his stamina has gotten unbelievably better. if roach is so good, why does he have 13 losses on his own boxing record?
He is very cool. I said Pacquiao is a 1 dimensional fighter and he simply agreed with me! He also gave me a can of soda.
floyd got a call pac was to sing in the mall with roach, ariza and arum as the backing vocalists, on hearing floyd arrived, team pac left by a back door. the mall manager then announced to the very small crowd....... pacman has now left the building.
I told him he should fight Manny Pacquiao.
He then shouted to me in a very enraged manner, " you need to take OSTs before you say anything like that to me!!!!!" and then he whispered something to some large Black dude next to him.
Then I got shot at.
I did the Neo to avoid the bullets, only to rise up to see Floyds kids running to a security guard shack. When I turned to my left,
I seen a woman being carted to an ambulance.
As Floyd was fleeing the scene, he was being chased by two security guards. One was demanding to see id and the other was holding his face.
Looks like he was poked in the eye or something.
@yeah did you know pac was in skating with ariza, and both were wearing mini skirts, fishnets. arum and roach were dancing on ice wearing leopard skin leotards, it was a social bonding day out by team wakapacman. lol
pick up the phone floyd???? have you been in hibernation??? floyd called pacman out a few weeks ago!!! there,s been no response from cowboy arum or joke roach.....hahahahahahahahahahaha PICK UP THE PHONE MANNY, FLOYDIE IS LOOKING for yaaaaa.
Strange. He won't agree to any cut-off dates, yet he's just given himself an over a year long cut-off-period from urine as well as blood tests. Very strange indeed.
Why did you need the cut-off period, Floyd? What where you up to? How is this helping the mission you claim that you're on - to clean up the sport of boxing?
To quote Victor Conte, a guy that Flomos like to quote:
"Floyd Mayweather is highly suspicious."
and, not a direct quote but none the less:
"Conte also said that even with the random testing that Mayweather and Mosley went through, both could have used drugs up until the testing started and still have reaped the benefits throughout the testing period and during the fight. He went on to detail how anabolic steroids or EPO both could easily have been used without risk of being caught."
Final words: I'm excited for the Ortiz-fight, but the testing BS is just that - BS. Floyd could've been juicing his ass of for over a year now, he obviously has no problem with that.
@hi there mr roach, good to talk to you...question, why at the start of talks between pacman floyd did you say we,ll take any test, then wait until floyd accepted all your demands then you back-tracked and said pacmans scared of needles hes superstitious etc......should you not have walked at the start of talks if pacman didnt want to test. lmfao.
Pac and May fight will never materialize because uncle and father are shook..
Roger says, Ortiz is better than Pac. So If pac is easy picking why go for lesser pay in Ortiz when you can get 50million to fight pac and get easy money. Contradicting again lol.
Then he says Floyd needs more tuneups after Ortiz fight before facing Pac. Duh? He just said Ortiz is better than Pac??
This family is a walking contradiction. There definitely shook when they hear the name Pacquiao.
On whether he believes Victor Ortiz is a more talented fighter than Manny Pacquiao:
“I think the guy’s got better talent. This guy Victor Ortiz has better talent than Pacquiao. Pacquiao ain’t nothing but wild, anyway! Pacquiao ain’t got no skills, period! That ain’t why he’s winning. That ain’t why he’s winning! He ain’t winning on no skills, that’s for sure.”
On whether he believes Floyd would be ready to fight Pacquiao in his next fight if he beats Victor Ortiz:
“Well I wouldn’t think he would fight Pacquiao right after fighting Victor Ortiz. I mean it would be crazy for Floyd to go in the ring with Pacquiao after fighting Victor Ortiz! Floyd needs fights. He needs to be active. Don’t get me wrong, Floyd is the greatest fighter out there, period. Right now in today’s boxing Floyd is the greatest fighter out there. But at the same time I don’t think that Floyd can do this. Floyd needs tune-ups like anybody else. It ain’t no different than any other fighter if you are going to compete with a guy who has been active all the time.”
Link: http://www.**********boxingradio.com/wordpress/2011/06/roger-mayweather-%E2%80%9Cit-would-be-crazy-for-floyd-to-go-in-the-ring-with-pacquiao-after-fighting-victor-ortiz%E2%80%9D/
@roger is trying to sucker pacman into a false sense of security!! may snr has just said today floyd will fight pac next provided he takes the test.....lets see if pac really said he,d take the test?? as you pac fans have stated.
you guys that say pac beats shane most know more than freddie roach. shane bent over backwards and done summersaults to secure a fight with pac and roach and decides on clotty lol why why why. when was last time pac fought a guy with shanes speed???marquez? hell no, shanes much quicker and stronger...... shane wins by ko. guaranteed.
manny pacduckio is p4p 1 catchweight king, fights hand picked fighters. wouldnt fight shane mosley, roach said shane your too good hahaha. floyd offered to pay marquez 1mill to step aside, manny quickly signed to fight cotto after weeks of uncertainty in negotiations hahaha........ floyd asked manny to step up to the plate, hell no manny wanted cotto as cotto looked pathetic since margorito and was thier for the taken. hahahahahahaha, p4p no1? by beating which no. 1,2 or 3 in the world?
even ray leonard acknowledged floyd was the best skilled wise fighter he,d seen. that says it all for me. those who blindly disagree are floyd haters, pacman lovers or simply know nothing about the sport of boxing.
1. Manny has agreed to FULL RANDOM BLOOD & URINE rite?
2. 50/50 60/40 55/45 split mite be a road block, but Manny The (I'll fight
Floyd for free, I fight for pride not money) Pacquiao won't hold out over money. He just wants to fight, rite?
We all know the details, we've all seen/read comments.
If the fight we ALL want to see is not in May 2011, for ONLY 2 of 3 reasons. We ALL have to admit, WE SUPPORT BULLSHYT FIGHTERS!
If the fight is not made in May 2011 over Money, Drug testing (FULL RANDOM, BLOOD & URINE) Manny is Full Of Shyt.
If it's not made for any other reason than, Floyd or Roger doing time. Floyd is Full Of Shyt.
Agree or not?
ask your friend pacduckiao, when floyd offered to pay marquez 1 million bucks to step aside and asked your friend why he wouldnt step up to the plate when floyd challenged him to do so, well documented on live t.v.hahahahahahahaha. and he ducked shane too, ask roach. hahahahahahaha. pac fans get the facts right please it makes you look silly.
did manny not duck a 3rd fight with marquez, did manny not duck a fight with shane mosley. did floyd not offer to pay marquez 1mill dollars to step aside and asked manny to step up to the plate? only silence eminated from manny roach and arum. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, WHOS THE DADDY? FLOYDS THE DADDY, EASY FIGHT.
@ cixthree, you failed to mention that floyd offered to pay marquez 1 mill to step aside to get the fight with pac, but pac wouldnt accept it. it was on both sky sports news and espn.....well documented.
yeah pacman ducked floyd. also floyd offered to pay marquez 1 million to step aside and asked pacman to step up to the plate, he refused the bait and quickly signed to fight cotto.
floyd is such a big earner now 1 or 2 fights a year are maximum, any more fights he just gets hammered for taxes......floyd snr and roger have said this publicly. so stop this nonsence about part time fighter. floyds just got too big for his own good. end of.