The name of the game is hit and not be hit.
Resume aside, if we were to look at just the skill and technique throughout the history of boxing would Floyd be viewed as the #1 ATG skilled boxer?
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how can "most skilled fighter" didnt fight the likes of Margarito, Cotto in their prime and ducking Manny right now? the retirement was B.S. he was clearly ducking the best fighters in welterweight. i think he has to prove it in the ring against good/great fighters to be considered most skilled. FLoyd clearly hasnt proved that. who was his best win to even consider him most skilled?
Floyd is the fantasy fight champion of all time. And you are a stupid idiot!!!
i fantasize about floyd fights, but you fantasize about floyd in tights sucking your little dick, bwahahahahaha!
floyd is an atg, just not the most skilled ever.
and change your name. it's way too corny, bwhahahahaha!!
He is in my opinion. Period.
If you dont like that I said it I really dont care. Hes the most skilled and complete fighter ever. Heck even Ali's daughter said Floyd was better than her father.
But, nobody is calling Ali the most skilled fighter ever. And, there have plenty of fighters more skilled than Ali.
floyd is maybe top 5 or 10.
he's too damn good, but he should have never retired. u can't just set resume aside.
he could have beat mosley, cotto, and margarito in 2008 and that would supported his claim of being the most skilled ever.
but without resume, i say top 5.
What about defense wise? I might agree with Leonard on agressiveness but in terms of defence Mayweather has to be up there.
Defense wise I would put Pep, Whitaker, Locche, and Benitez ahead of him.
Skill wise I would say he is on par with Finito.
So most skilled all time? IMO just no.
No. The most well-rounded fighter, of all time, SKILL-Wise, has to be Ray Leonard IMO.
The best fighter of all time is Muhammad Ali though, IMO. Robinson is good but he never fought no Joe Frazier, or George Foreman.
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He is in my opinion. Period.
If you dont like that I said it I really dont care. Hes the most skilled and complete fighter ever. Heck even Ali's daughter said Floyd was better than her father.
Yeah maybe 'cuz she wants to suck it? He is definitely Top 10. I'd rate him higher, but frankly, I don't have the background to do so.
He is in my opinion. Period.
If you dont like that I said it I really dont care. Hes the most skilled and complete fighter ever. Heck even Ali's daughter said Floyd was better than her father.
He is a very skilled, nearly complete fighter, but he is not the most skilled fighter ever. I'm tempted to say not even close, but I have to respect Floyd's all around game more than that.
Let's just say he's definitely not the most skilled fighter ever.
hes definitely up there. ppl who say he doesnt have the resume, plz. u dudes judge him on who he hasnt fought as opposed to who he has fought. he's beaten some good fighters and hes usually won one sidedly. gotta love when ppl say he doesnt have a resume when hes fought a number of world class boxers without losing many rounds and the one fight ppl can actually say he came close to losing he avenged immediately. if that doesnt show his skill level, i dunno what does.
if ppl wanna hate him for not fighting this fighter or that fighter then fine. but dont pick apart his resume and act like what he's done isnt quite remarkable, because it really is. only one who's been more remarkable as of late is manny.
whitaker, pep, robinson, charles, walcott, hearns, mccallum ect were all more skilled than floyd just to name a few. floyd is probably a top 15 purely most skilled fighter ever, maybe 10.
even ray leonard acknowledged floyd was the best skilled wise fighter he,d seen. that says it all for me. those who blindly disagree are floyd haters, pacman lovers or simply know nothing about the sport of boxing.
I wouldn't say Floyd's welterweight career is a joke considering there was a lot of hype about the Zab Judah Fight because he was a southpaw, a former champion, and a fighter in his prime. Zab may be a natural 140 lber but Floyd is a guy who's best weight was @ 135 so the size argument is invalid. He was pidgeon holed into fighting Baldomir because Baldo was the lineal champ @ 147 at the time, no matter how much he lacks in skill Baldomir was the man to beat at the time.
Zab Judah is sh*t at 147, Floyd fought him after he lost to a club fighter in Baldomir. Since then he fizzled out against Floyd, got steamrolled by Cotto, and manhandled by Clottey at WW. The smartest move he made in his career was going back to 140.
Calling Ricky Hatton a natural 140 lber is silly considering the fact that Ricky walks around at 170 to 180 lbs when inactive (far heavier than Floyd). And yes you can criticize the choice of fighting Marquez but other welterweights have forced lightweights to move up and fight them. Oscar De La Hoya did it twice and lost, Sugar Ray Leonard did it with Duran and lost. Floyd fights the number 1 lightweight and wins in dominant fashion after having been off for two years and he's somehow the one to get the most hate. SMH
Hatton's best is CLEARLY at 140, this is not even debatable so don't bother embarrassing yourself by trying. Guy was literally invincible at 140, 40-something and 0, until he ran into Manny. He fought Collazo at 147 before Floyd and looked like complete sh*t and was clearly out of his element at that weight, ripe for the cherry-picking.
Don't give me that he was off for X years nonsense, that was a self-imposed exile because he didn't want to fight Cotto, Margarito, Williams, Wright, etc and like recently, his solution was to 'retire' when he ran out of excuses. Don't act like his license/belts were stripped ala Ali or he had a detached retina like Leonard. He ducked, then came back to fight a 37 year old career featherweight and then present lightweight and came in over the agreed upon weight limit, because he needed even more advantages. Trying to twist it doesn't change the facts.
His WW career has been a joke.
P4P, who would you rate higher?
I still think skill wise alone he is above Whitaker, Leonard easily.
To quote rick james "cocaine is a helluva drug"
Dude lay off that nose candy , Leonard and whitaker will school floyd's prissy boxing style in the ring
Leonard would of k floyd tfo with that superior handspeed and power
So to answer your question HELL NO!
I wouldn't say Floyd's welterweight career is a joke considering there was a lot of hype about the Zab Judah Fight because he was a southpaw, a former champion, and a fighter in his prime. Zab may be a natural 140 lber but Floyd is a guy who's best weight was @ 135 so the size argument is invalid. He was pidgeon holed into fighting Baldomir because Baldo was the lineal champ @ 147 at the time, no matter how much he lacks in skill Baldomir was the man to beat at the time.
Calling Ricky Hatton a natural 140 lber is silly considering the fact that Ricky walks around at 170 to 180 lbs when inactive (far heavier than Floyd). And yes you can criticize the choice of fighting Marquez but other welterweights have forced lightweights to move up and fight them. Oscar De La Hoya did it twice and lost, Sugar Ray Leonard did it with Duran and lost. Floyd fights the number 1 lightweight and wins in dominant fashion after having been off for two years and he's somehow the one to get the most hate. SMH