After watching his past fight, he look unbeatable, he's a type of fighter that can adjust to any fighter style, major kudos to him not having to watch his past opponent fights...
If i was a trainer I would train my fighter to add pressure and attack the body and throw the right hook to get past the shoulder roll, throw lots of combination.
what fighters have he avoided??please list them
Do you think that Bruselles, Sosa, Ndou, Corley' Gatti, Judah And sharmba mitchell were the best available opponents for Floyd in the 4 years from 2002-2006.
Is Mosley, Ortiz, Marquez' and Cotto the best he could do in The last 5 years
but that same jmm(2 years later) gave manny all he could handle
and sharmba moved up to 147 before floyd and why do they need more than 1 or 2 fights at ww??bradley had 1 at ww and beat manny.lol
Are you serious? Manny vs Marquez is like Ali vs Frazier. They can fight 100 times and you would always get the same kind of fight. Yes, sometimes Manny will look better and sometimes Marquez but you know its going to be close fights.
I did state beforehand that Roach may be making a mistake in what he sees in Marquez prior to their last fight. According to Roach, Marquez was supposedly fighting more aggressively at 135 and expecting the same Marquez. That was a mistake and so the game plan was also a mistake, of sorts.
Besides what I stated above, Manny fought Marquez at 144 and Marquez actually looked bigger than Manny. Also, Marquez used his previous experience at the higher weights to hopefully adjust better against Manny .... and he did well ...... without question, Marquez looked more fit against Manny.
Marquez fought Floyd at 146 not 144 and it was late notice for him at that. Plus it was uncharted territory when he did it with Floyd.
Why did they need more than 1 or 2 fights at WW? Because if you see them fight a few more times you will then get a better picture of who they are at WW, for one. Example, Sharmba kept on losing at WW. Winning 1 fight at WW doesn't mean that they can consistently do it .... but unfortunately, Floyd has his fans convinced and they even can accept a Marquez coming up 2 fights away from 130. How did he convince his fans? By saying, "... but Marquez is #2 P4P" .... that is crazy stuff but Floyd fans get easily convinced!
I said the same about Bradley. If Bradley did well against Manny then we would be convinced. If Bradley didn't then for certain that question would come up and be a valid point. So it changes nothing on Floyd doing it with, Ortiz, Marquez, Hatton and Sharmba. WHO IS NEXT? lol!
Train to go 12 Rounds with MULTIPLE GAME PLANS not just one
Forget trying to score a KO with one punch, focus more so on at least trying to make him work...Cotto made him work but Cotto don't have the reflexes or the head movement to avoid Mayweather punches
all that being said, it is hard to train for a fighter in which you don't even know which style he will use against you, Mosley thought he was going to be the one persuing in that fight, he end up being the one backing up, even Cotto may have doubted Mayweather's toughness...that is many fighters mistake, they get caught up listening to stupid clueless fans and they start believing "Mayweather Don't Hit That Hard" "Mayweather Can't Take Punches To The Body" "You Have To Pressure Mayweather" "You Have To Do What Castillo Did"...not realizing that Mayweather is a perfectionist he takes PRIDE in boxing a complete fighter, he takes PRIDE in schooling his opponent for 12 Rounds, he takes PRIDE in dominating his opponent MENTALLY THEN PHYSICALLY
So your going to have to bring more to the table then just Physical Attributes (Being Faster Then Him Or Having More Power Then Him) that alone won't come close to beating Mayweather...MENTAL! You gotta beat Mentally Strong in and Outside of the Ring and Gotta have the In Ring IQ and to me not many fighters have that other then Andre Ward and Chad Dawson and both are too big for Ward, then you have Chemito Moreno who is currently too small for him but you do have someone like Austin Trout at 154 who is a Smart High In Ring IQ Boxer
but the fighters that would give Mayweather the most trouble, fans are not calling for those matches, they keep calling for him to fight all these OVERRATED FIGHTERS who's only chance of beating Mayweather is a LUCKY PUNCH and even that might not be enough because it is not like Mayweather can't take a Punch
so it is a great chance Mayweather retires UNDEFEATED because current fans today don't respect TRUE BOXING SKILLS so they are actually making Mayweather job EASY without even knowing it
right now?
take advantage of his legs if i've got a young fighter
back him to the ropes with a double jab and then outwork him. if he's rolling his shoulder and protecting his body with his elbow's id' hit him wherever the hell i could. eventually the shots will at least score pts, if not connect and break him down.
miguel cotto is nowhere near a perfect fighter, and he gave floyd problems
as he ages mayweather jr is going to become more and more vulnerable, the same way every other great boxer and ring general has gone.
After watching his past fight, he look unbeatable, he's a type of fighter that can adjust to any fighter style, major kudos to him not having to watch his past opponent fights...
If i was a trainer I would train my fighter to add pressure and attack the body and throw the right hook to get past the shoulder roll, throw lots of combination.
He doesn't look the slightest bit unbeatable. We've seen fighters have success, we've seen a fighter that many feel beat him.
The best way is intelligent pressure and body work, unless you have significant height and reach advantages. Thing is, you also have to have the talent to at least come close to his, which is where most fighters fall short. Mayweather has ridiculous talent to go with his smarts and skills.
So let's say he is squared up for a lead right, what exactly do you do, step by step?
If you can slip it then pivot to the side he can't generate any power off of.
Or block it and come in.
I think there is a couple of different ways to beat him. First and foremost you have to be a special fighter, and quite frankly Floyd has never really fought one, apart from Oscar, and Mosley, but both were past there best. Marquez is a special fighter but was too small.
I think the most sure fire way is beating him with length, speed, and a jab. The fighters in his era capable of pulling that off in my eyes would have been prime Oscar and Forrest. Winky Wright also, but he is such a big guy that for me that is not as relevant.
It would take nothing short of a really special fighter though, or someone who is a very good fighter with a big size advantage.
In my eyes Castillo beat him, and even in the second fight gave him a lot of trouble, but Castillo was an incredibly smart pressure fighter. It shows that there is always a guy out there who can have your number. I would have loved to have seen how Floyd would have handled someone like Margarito, he was more basic than Castillo, but much bigger, Margarito could stick that jab in his face from a long way out. His pressure is very intense, and coming from a much taller guy, that is difficult to deal with.
JJM didnt lose cause he was to small he got a boxing leeson point blank thats an excuses only dummys and haters use.JJm couldnt even hit him.
ur going to get tired before floyd because he throws one punch at a time nothing u can do there and against Cotto he threw almost 200 punches more and still had more energy and mental engergy in the fight but floyd is past his prime no matter what he is top 5 alltime just on boxing skills alone never a more technical skilled boxer.If you want to teach all the fundementals of boxing Floyd is the best example.throws every type of punch perfect.Didnt even know he can loop that right hand around Cottos gloves at the last second amazing.
After watching his past fight, he look unbeatable, he's a type of fighter that can adjust to any fighter style, major kudos to him not having to watch his past opponent fights...
If i was a trainer I would train my fighter to add pressure and attack the body and throw the right hook to get past the shoulder roll, throw lots of combination.
you better hope ur fighter has fast hands, fast feet and a long reach and good stamina or else!
That's not true you can tell which punch he's honna throw from how he angles his body if he keeps it at a angle hes leaping forward for the left hook that way he can slide to the side.
If he squared up he's throwing a lead right hand.
So let's say he is squared up for a lead right, what exactly do you do, step by step?
not true that crouch can lead to a lead right aswell..and that lean forward can be a leaping left hook...he is unpredictable
That's not true you can tell which punch he's honna throw from how he angles his body if he keeps it at a angle hes leaping forward for the left hook that way he can slide to the side.
If he squared up he's throwing a lead right hand.
Size and power beats Floyd. Someone who can take his punches and walk him down with a major size and power advantage. Which is nobody fighting at or under 154.
Depends on the fighter you're training doesn't it.
If it's Manny Pacquiao, you need to get FMJ into the ring first!
I think you have it backwards there chief...
Anyone that knows ANYTHING about boxing knows Bob Arum doesn't want the fight. Just like he didn't want the Mayweather Del La Hoya fight years ago...
Floyd has nothing to do with it chief, unless of course your talking about ruining Hatton's career. Then you would have a point.
Point being, like i said years ago, when Bob Arum is ready he WILL make the fight. Just like he's been making fights the past few decades.
I think there is a couple of different ways to beat him. First and foremost you have to be a special fighter, and quite frankly Floyd has never really fought one, apart from Oscar, and Mosley, but both were past there best. Marquez is a special fighter but was too small.
I think the most sure fire way is beating him with length, speed, and a jab. The fighters in his era capable of pulling that off in my eyes would have been prime Oscar and Forrest. Winky Wright also, but he is such a big guy that for me that is not as relevant.
It would take nothing short of a really special fighter though, or someone who is a very good fighter with a big size advantage.
In my eyes Castillo beat him, and even in the second fight gave him a lot of trouble, but Castillo was an incredibly smart pressure fighter. It shows that there is always a guy out there who can have your number. I would have loved to have seen how Floyd would have handled someone like Margarito, he was more basic than Castillo, but much bigger, Margarito could stick that jab in his face from a long way out. His pressure is very intense, and coming from a much taller guy, that is difficult to deal with.
shoot... throw a guy in there like Rocky Balboa, honestly at that weight. this might not exist but this is how i think a person would beat mayweather. just get in there at get nasty with him throw him to the ropes have a huge heart and an amazing chin(idk if rocky had an amazing chin since he was always getting KD)lol