The Spinks Jinx would put Jones Jnr to sleep before the 6th round, Jones whilst being the better fighter p4p would not be able to keep such a bigger, quick, skilled and powerful fighter off as Spinks. I honestly think it would be totally onesided and Jones would take a brutal beating.
Smith put up a decent fight against a faded Abrahams and the scoring was a disgrace, but i dont think he done enough to win the fight and i had AA ahead by 2 rounds at the end and it was certainly not a robbery.
Ward is Number 1 without a shadow of a doubt, no argument can erase the fact that when they fought when Froch was nearer his prime than he is now, Ward outclassed him totally while also fighting with an injury. I struggled to give Froch 2 rounds in the whole fight and he was well out of his depth.
Matchroom casual alert!!!
Joshua is made for Wladimir, mark my words. All these clowns claiming that Joshua will just steam in and starch him don't have a clue. Wlad's excellent footwork and defence will negate Joshua's early aggression, and when Wlad starts jabbing his face to bits, it will only be a matter of time.
hahaha casual i aint, I am 50 years old been a boxing fan since the 70s and have watched fights all over the world. I wonder how many of you self appointed proper fans even recognise the legend in my avatar. Anyway enough of the childish stuff, I just see the obvious which is a hungry young power puncher against an aged chinny ex champion who has not thrown a punch in a 18 months and lets be fair barely even threw one then, only ends one way. All you lot dismissing people as casuals because they dont share you deluded belief in Wlad turning back time to overcome Joshua sound more like the part timers. I am old enough to remember what happens when Wlad gets hit hard by big punchers, many of you were probably too young to remember, but it aint pretty and make no mistake Joshua will hit him and the light will go out in Wlad's long and respected career.
Will be a 2-3 round massacre poor old Wlad is in a world of trouble here. Against a man just as big and strong, and with equal reach he fights a man with all the tools to nullify his jab, grab and lean tactics. Even a prime Wlad would be in the brown stuff against AJ, this faded version will be blown away and pretty quickly. Ultimately at no point in his career would Wlad's suspect mandible stand up to the kind of power Joshua brings, so not sure how anyone thinks an aging slowing version of Wlad has a snowball in hell's chance. This fight will be a huge anti-climax, and in the aftermath all we will hear is how did anyone seriously think that Wlad so old and bad he lost to Tyson Fury 18 months ago while barely throwing a punch really had a chance against a young monstrous punching lion like Joshua.
Wlad is chinny, gunshy and old. I dont think he ever beat a heavyweight in his career as good as Joshua. Love to know how anyone can seriously come to the conclusion that an already clearly badly ageing champion who got outclassed 18 months ago by a pretty average Tyson Fury is suddenly going to turn back the clock after being inactive for all this time against a far more dangerous fighter than Fury. Wlad will try not to engage AJ for fear of getting sparked and will fight a negative fight, wont save him though he will look no better than the last 2 of Joshua's opponents.
I can remember people thinking Ali could turn back time against Holmes and even against Berbeck, the realists know though you cant cheat old father time, let alone against a man who may have even beat him in his prime. Wlad was a very good fighter in a poor era, but hand on heart i cant think of one fighter he has beaten that would start as favourite against Joshua. Strange though i have managed to quantify why i think Joshua will win comfortably, yet most of those disagreeing dont seem to be able to explain how a rusty old champion who never had the best chin and could barely throw a punch in his last fight beats Joshua, it seems to me the only argument put forward by and large is he is from England so over hyped and you must be a casual not to agree with us.
All time great vs one of the poorest champions to have ever held the belt for more than a year, not exactly the hardest fight to pick a winner. Even the lucky punch wouldnt save the Windmill this time, Holmes got dropped by even far better boxers who were bigger punchers like Shavers and still got up and won. This fight would be like a race between Usain Bolt and Rosanne Barr in terms of competition.
The Rock wins by late KO, too much heart and his relentless punching would break Tyson. Mike was at his best when the opponents were shivering with fear and half beat before the first bell, Marciano was scared of no man and just liked to fight.
I am not a fan of Wlad and think he is very lucky to be around in such a dire era, but i think he knocks Tyson out pretty easily, it is almost impossible for a 5ft 10 heavy to get near a giant of a man as mobile, fast and powerful as Wlad. Even if Tyson got in close Wlad is so much bigger and far stronger he just grabs and lays on him at will and Tyson will be exhausted in a few rounds. There are many other heavyweights who would destroy Wlad that i would back Tyson to beat, which just goes to show styles make fights.
Simple one for me Garcia, he beat Khan and he is not even the best win of Garcia'a career. Lets be honest if Khan v Matthysse was made tomorrow who would you expect to win, i know i would be betting on a brutal KO win for Lucas. Even though Khan's best win over Maidana is decent he was still very a raw fighter at that stage who i thought he was very lucky to get a decision over the shell of Morales, a fighter well beaten twice by Garcia. Maidana has improved recently as a fighter and would likely stop Khan in a rematch as well now. Brutal loses also count against Khan, so i cant find anyway to rank a man higher than the man he was destroyed by.
I expect Wlad to take Fury out with the first solid shot he lands, there is not one thing about Tyson Fury that suggests he has even the tiniest of chances. Fury is slow, chinny (that why he only fights non punching small heavies) he is easy to hit, his footwork is average and he has no power. He has been well managed but in reality he is just the British Butterbean.
I must have missed Froch busting Dirrell up, all i saw was a plodding champion getting his ears boxed off by Dirrell before getting robbed by an outrageous home town decision. First time i have ever seen a man get awarded a victory after barely laying a glove on his opponent and getting outclassed for 75% of the fight. Groves is a far better boxer than Froch so i am not surprised the sparring was more competitive.
i think you must of missed your eye test as well.
the fights on youtube, you can clearly see the commentataors/dirrells face bloodied in the nose and mouth area, and has a black eye.
Forch was unmarked
You can also clearly see that experts such as Jimmy iwole, dan rafael, buncey, jim watt, thebigragu, graham houston etc all had froch winning.
Boxrec punch stats had froch winning
The press row had froch winning
But as i say im sure you can reschedule your eye test.
Sorry mate but that's BS fights are not won by giving the opponent a black eye. Dirrell threw twice as many punches and landed twice as many as well, Froch never hurt him once, but Froch was hurt on 2 occasions. For the first 9 rounds was Dirrell winning the majority of them on the backfoot and making Froch look like a clumsy amateur only the 10 and 11 rounds were clear for Froch the 12th was a clear Dirrell round with Froch in trouble at the end.
The vast majority of press covered it as a bit of a robbery, pretty much only the UK media thought that Froch deserved to keep his belt.
James J. Jeffries came out of retirement 6 years after his last fight and fought straight away against the world heavyweight champion Jack Johnson.
Thought you would know that considering your display pic is an oldie ;)
A very different time and place than today. I do though know plenty about the Jeffries v Johnson fight and the fact he got completely outclassed proves the point. Jeffries was also 7 years younger than Calzaghe and had 23 less fights.
We cant really use something that happened 104 years ago as a guide for the 2014 boxing world because it has no more relevance than us saying because Bob Fitzsimmons won the Middleweight, Light Heavy and Heavyweight titles then so should GGG.
42 yr olds who have been retired for 6 years do not come out of retirement and fight world champions or anyone else who is half decent no matter how good they used to be in 2008. At his best Calzaghe was a different level to Froch and would have completely outclassed him, now it would be a meaningless fight.
Not 42 but longer retired and in terrible shape, James J. Jeffries came out of retirement 6 years after his last fight and fought straight away against the world heavyweight champion Jack Johnson.
Thought you would know that considering your display pic is an oldie ;)
Jeffries was always going to get beat by Johnson had he retired or not.
My point remains that a former great champion can come out of a retirement and go straight into a world title fight.
A modern example is when Vladimir klitschkos team attempted to lure Lenox Lewis out of retirement for his demanded 50million. He replied that the figure had gone up to 100 million, but the point is the offer was made by the champion.
All due respect mate your point is a 104 year old proof that middle aged men should not come out of retirement. I was not saying it cant happen i was saying it should and would not. Lewis was smart enough to realise this himself again cementing the point that only a fool would do it. People also talking about Vitali coming back should also remember he is 42 the same age as Calzaghe and he returned to boxing at the same year Calzaghe actually retired after having 12 fights more.
Does not deserve to be anywhere near a title fight until he has beaten a few people of note, but make no mistake even if they fought tonight anyone that big and who hits that hard poses a serious threat to a champion with a weak chin. The strange thing about boxing is here's plenty of fighters not as good as Wlad out there with good jaws that could beat Price easy, but the best Heavyweight in the world could easily get starched by him if he lands.
I like Manny and he is truly a great fighter but Leonard is different gravy he can boast victories over Duran, Benitez, Hearns, Hagler on his record plus great wins over many other very good fighters over various weight divisions. I don't think there's a much better record in the history of this great sport and you probably have to go back to Ray Robinson to find a better fighter p4p.
No point in bringing the drug testing stuff back up, when all but the most stupid can see the fight is really not happening because Floyd does not want to risk his 0 against Manny.
This drug thing seems to have become a default position for those trying desperately to defend the indefensible nature of Floyd's cowardice.
If he fights any of the champions at the middleweight limit he will get manhandled and beaten up, brilliant fighter no doubt but not big enough for taking on the top men in that division.
Not even close Holmes is an ATG and had everything, he dominated the division for years and come extremely close to breaking the most famous record in boxing, Wlad for me was only 2nd best heavyweight in the world till the recent slide in Vitali and has operated in the weakest era in history. Wlad has also been KOed brutally by 3 men, 2 of which Holmes would not even have considered good enough for a sparring partners.
It was clear to anyone who knows Boxing he was weight drained and most people knew he would be long before they got in the ring. At the end of the day Chad took the risk on and cleared a big payday so he should get on with his career and leave the excuse out. Too be honest Ward is another level anyway and would beat him just as easy at Light Heavy.
No way he is an ATG, but he could and should have been. There are many fighters who will go down as greats who never had his talent, but made the maximum of what they had unlike Toney who never got close to what he should have been.
Doesn't make any difference who trains him and where he trains at this stage, he has too many weaknesses and will never change, if anything he actually looked worse on Saturday. He is a good fighter but will never be among the elite and should be nowhere near a title shot on the basis of fighting 2 little fellas like Molina and Daiz. Garcia or Matthysse will both KO him and i can see Peterson stop him in a rematch as well.
If Khan had stayed in the UK and gone to Rob McCracken early in his career rather than playing charlie big spuds in the US then he might well be a far more rounded fighter today, but Khans own delusions of grandeur has been his undoing.
I think Vitali would just be too big and too strong for Tyson (even if Mike is clearly the more talented fighter) and stop him in the middle rounds.
I dont personally rate either as true great Heavies and in Tyson's early years he was lucky as the Klits that they are in an era lacking any quality opposition. I think Lennox Lewis was a different class to both and in anything near his prime could destroy them both of them in their primes fairly easily.