His engine looked pretty good against Breazeale. He looks like a guy who should gas quickly, but it doesn't seem to be the case
I give Wlad a solid chance because Joshua moves in straight lines, doesn't keep his head moving and doesn't disguise his punches well. Simply popping him with the jab and circling away from his right hand will probably give him fits
Solid post. It's interesting to see Joshua not only a defensive minded opponent but also one that can punch for the first time.
I'm really loath to throw myself into saying Wlad will be too much and blast AJ out for only one reason, Wlad's age and lay off. It'd have been nice to have seen where Klitschko was at versus Browne in December but I guess if he won in a blitzkrieg manner we may not be seeing this fight at all. Hearn must believe the potential money to earnt here is worth the gamble with Klitschko looking so damn poor last out and over a year out.
I think the fight is too early for AJ to be taking on WK
Im sure WK will win this fight
Is it too early for josh? Or is it too late for wlad? How old does wlad need to be for josh to have a chance?
Aj vs Whyte, watch Round 6, he slowed down to almost a crawl and that was with Whyte flat footed, against Wlad he'll have major problems.
His engine looked pretty good against Breazeale. He looks like a guy who should gas quickly, but it doesn't seem to be the case
I give Wlad a solid chance because Joshua moves in straight lines, doesn't keep his head moving and doesn't disguise his punches well. Simply popping him with the jab and circling away from his right hand will probably give him fits
Aj vs Whyte, watch Round 6, he slowed down to almost a crawl and that was with Whyte flat footed, against Wlad he'll have major problems.
that definitely seemed like a tactic change rather than gassing, he realised he wasn't going to blast him out of there & started to pick his shots better which is how he caught him initially in the 7th. the attack he launched in round 7 after that was fast and ruthless, didn't look tired at all to me.
seen as AJ has never looked tired in his professional career so far, I have no idea what your basing your comment on. please give examples
Aj vs Whyte, watch Round 6, he slowed down to almost a crawl and that was with Whyte flat footed, against Wlad he'll have major problems.
AJ has sh1t stamina and that's with him not moving, imagine what he'll be like after chasing Klitschko for 7 rounds. This will be another rumble in the jungle moment.
seen as AJ has never looked tired in his professional career so far, I have no idea what your basing your comment on. please give examples
I think everybody is underestimating Wlad here. He will not be old and slown but rather refreshed and hungry to win his titles back.
based on what ? :lol1:
ever heard ' you're only as good as your last fight'
Wlad was a shot, old fighter, terrified to throw punches in his last fight.
now its nearly 2 years on, he's 41 years old and hasnt been in the ring since. and you think magically he's not going to be shot anymore ? :lol1:
AJ has sh1t stamina and that's with him not moving, imagine what he'll be like after chasing Klitschko for 7 rounds. This will be another rumble in the jungle moment.
Wlad really doesn't like people his own size. He likes a small prey, who he can keep at bay with some long jabs.
true true but he has faced guys same size as him and beaten them too
I'm predicting AJ beats Wlad because of the age factor and that he can only get worse hwile my boy AJ can only get better...but my argument is, if Wlad wins, it's not an upset. Plain as day.
In terms of a prime or even slightly post prime Wlad, he would be too much for the current version of AJ but that's not what's being discussed here.
Wlad really doesn't like people his own size. He likes a small prey, who he can keep at bay with some long jabs.
Klitschko has always looked sh1t against guys who move their feet. Fury, Thompson, Jennings, Ibragimov are examples. Joshua fights in the pocket, comes forward in a straight line and doesn't move his head. I honestly think he's made for Wlad. If it wasn't for Joshua's undeniable raw power & Wlad's absence from the ring, i'd call it a mismatch.
Let me ask you more specifically. What fights, are a telltale sign that Wlad beats AJ.
I'm predicting AJ beats Wlad because of the age factor and that he can only get worse hwile my boy AJ can only get better...but my argument is, if Wlad wins, it's not an upset. Plain as day.
In terms of a prime or even slightly post prime Wlad, he would be too much for the current version of AJ but that's not what's being discussed here.
Considering Pacquiao shot is a whole different ball game, than Wlad. Pacquiao is possibly top 2 the last 10 years, where Wlad has not faced the same amount of ATGness as Pacquiao. Wlad is more of a division keeper. He was the best of the rest, in a time of a struggling HW division - And I'm not only talking about the quality of entertainment in the fights. I just don't see the comparison.
Honestly, Wlad last to Fury because Wlad wouldn't let his hands go on top of Fury being big, strong and quick enough to now allow Wlad to do any of his Head Lock Slowing the Pace of the Fight Down Tactics and winning Ugly. So more credit goes to Tyson and Peter Fury for having a excellent gameplan for Wlad! HOWEVER, because Fury was able to do it doesn't automatically means that Joshua will be able to do it because Joshua don't have the footwork if quickness of Fury.
Also your talking about fighters STYLE I'm talking about as far as where both fighters are in their career. It is the final Chapter for BOTH we can all agree on that right, also people trying to push them into retirement because they both lost their last big fight. I'm saying just because Mayweather beat Pacquiao and Fury beat Wlad, that doesn't Automatically means that they're done and now everybody else will beat them.
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Wladimir being schooled by Fury doesn't mean he's shot, he was just beaten by the superior fighter. Joshua does not possess Fury's skills.
The fight before Fury, he didn't look particularly great again Jennings (the fight was away from home), but he still won every round, and the fight before that, he knocked Pulev (arguably a top 3 HW right now) into next week.
Love how you ignored the bet that was offered to you on page 14 like it never happened, don't seem as confident
as you're making out
I don't bother with imaginary points. I'll be betting hard cash at the bookies.
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It is Possible, you can't just push guys like Wlad and Pacquiao out the door, these young guys have the SHOW AND PROVE and that goes for all of them. Yeah sure it is fun to Crown them and PROJECT what we THINK they can potentially be but they have to go out and make it official. I THINK it is Joshua's Time but he has to go out and PROVE that it is!
With Wlad, the pressure if off of him because people think he is OLD AND DONE so he really has NOTHING TO LOSE now. Legacy is Sealed so losing doesn't hurt him at all.
Considering Pacquiao shot is a whole different ball game, than Wlad. Pacquiao is possibly top 2 the last 10 years, where Wlad has not faced the same amount of ATGness as Pacquiao. Wlad is more of a division keeper. He was the best of the rest, in a time of a struggling HW division - And I'm not only talking about the quality of entertainment in the fights. I just don't see the comparison.
Wladimir being schooled by Fury doesn't mean he's shot, he was just beaten by the superior fighter. Joshua does not possess Fury's skills.
The fight before Fury, he didn't look particularly great again Jennings (the fight was away from home), but he still won every round, and the fight before that, he knocked Pulev (arguably a top 3 HW right now) into next week.
Love how you ignored the bet that was offered to you on page 14 like it never happened, don't seem as confident
as you're making out
Wladimir being schooled by Fury doesn't mean he's shot, he was just beaten by the superior fighter. Joshua does not possess Fury's skills.
The fight before Fury, he didn't look particularly great again Jennings (the fight was away from home), but he still won every round, and the fight before that, he knocked Pulev (arguably a top 3 HW right now) into next week.
It is Possible, you can't just push guys like Wlad and Pacquiao out the door, these young guys have the SHOW AND PROVE and that goes for all of them. Yeah sure it is fun to Crown them and PROJECT what we THINK they can potentially be but they have to go out and make it official. I THINK it is Joshua's Time but he has to go out and PROVE that it is!
With Wlad, the pressure if off of him because people think he is OLD AND DONE so he really has NOTHING TO LOSE now. Legacy is Sealed so losing doesn't hurt him at all.
I can remember people thinking Ali could turn back time against Holmes and even against Berbeck, the realists know though you cant cheat old father time, let alone against a man who may have even beat him in his prime. Wlad was a very good fighter in a poor era, but hand on heart i cant think of one fighter he has beaten that would start as favourite against Joshua. Strange though i have managed to quantify why i think Joshua will win comfortably, yet most of those disagreeing dont seem to be able to explain how a rusty old champion who never had the best chin and could barely throw a punch in his last fight beats Joshua, it seems to me the only argument put forward by and large is he is from England so over hyped and you must be a casual not to agree with us.
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