A few years ago Calzaghe said he'd come out of retirement for £10 Million pounds. Froch is now in a position where his promotional team could actually offer that purse to Calzaghe and lure him back to boxing for another massive Wembley Arena fight.
Of course, Joe has been retired for 6 years now, it's quite a long time but he has recently stated that Froch's legacy doesn't match his. There is a renewed tension brewing between the two fighters.
Vitali retired for 4 years or something and came back as heavyweight champion. Foreman retired for 10 years and came back. Retirements and returns are nothing new so what do you think, should Froch offer Calzaghe the £10 Million to come out of retirement and fight him?
All due respect mate your point is a 104 year old proof that middle aged men should not come out of retirement. I was not saying it cant happen i was saying it should and would not. Lewis was smart enough to realise this himself again cementing the point that only a fool would do it. People also talking about Vitali coming back should also remember he is 42 the same age as Calzaghe and he returned to boxing at the same year Calzaghe actually retired after having 12 fights more.
No problem, I thought you were arguing it couldn't but no worries.
Too old now...
42 yo and he heavily relied on his reflexes and speed it'd be another case of what happened to Roy Jones Jr albeit I still think an old Joe would beat Carl.
FUCK NO! For what? So when Carl KO's the hell out of him people will make excuses?!? "He's old" "Been retired" "Just wanted a paycheck" "Did tons of drugs" blah blah blah
I voted yes. Froch is always saying he is better than Joe. Of course I mean if someone else puts up the money. I don't think Froch would want to put up that kind of money, I am not sure Joe would return even for that much money. If Froch won it would not prove he was better prime against prime because he is so much younger.
i don't want to see it, but it's up to calzaghe.
when a fighter is horribly off the deep end, i don't think he should even be allowed to choose to come back. joe was fading, but he never took a pasting in his career. his speech is fine. by all accounts he's still mentally fit.
prime calzaghe won't lose a round to froch. he'd just be too fast. if he does lose a round, it would probably be a two point round. he'd get back up, finish the round, and go back to boxing froch's doors off.
No. I respect Joe's accomplishments, but I never liked his style, and I don't think anyone really misses him. Froch has a lot of options as it is (Jr., GGG, Ward II, Kessler III, DeGale). There's no need to drag Joe out of retirement.
Not 42 but longer retired and in terrible shape, James J. Jeffries came out of retirement 6 years after his last fight and fought straight away against the world heavyweight champion Jack Johnson.
Thought you would know that considering your display pic is an oldie ;)
Jeffries was always going to get beat by Johnson had he retired or not.
My point remains that a former great champion can come out of a retirement and go straight into a world title fight.
A modern example is when Vladimir klitschkos team attempted to lure Lenox Lewis out of retirement for his demanded 50million. He replied that the figure had gone up to 100 million, but the point is the offer was made by the champion.
All due respect mate your point is a 104 year old proof that middle aged men should not come out of retirement. I was not saying it cant happen i was saying it should and would not. Lewis was smart enough to realise this himself again cementing the point that only a fool would do it. People also talking about Vitali coming back should also remember he is 42 the same age as Calzaghe and he returned to boxing at the same year Calzaghe actually retired after having 12 fights more.
A very different time and place than today. I do though know plenty about the Jeffries v Johnson fight and the fact he got completely outclassed proves the point. Jeffries was also 7 years younger than Calzaghe and had 23 less fights.
Jeffries was always going to get beat by Johnson had he retired or not.
My point remains that a former great champion can come out of a retirement and go straight into a world title fight.
A modern example is when Vladimir klitschkos team attempted to lure Lenox Lewis out of retirement for his demanded 50million. He replied that the figure had gone up to 100 million, but the point is the offer was made by the champion.
James J. Jeffries came out of retirement 6 years after his last fight and fought straight away against the world heavyweight champion Jack Johnson.
Thought you would know that considering your display pic is an oldie ;)
A very different time and place than today. I do though know plenty about the Jeffries v Johnson fight and the fact he got completely outclassed proves the point. Jeffries was also 7 years younger than Calzaghe and had 23 less fights.
We cant really use something that happened 104 years ago as a guide for the 2014 boxing world because it has no more relevance than us saying because Bob Fitzsimmons won the Middleweight, Light Heavy and Heavyweight titles then so should GGG.
42 yr olds who have been retired for 6 years do not come out of retirement and fight world champions or anyone else who is half decent no matter how good they used to be in 2008. At his best Calzaghe was a different level to Froch and would have completely outclassed him, now it would be a meaningless fight.
Not 42 but longer retired and in terrible shape, James J. Jeffries came out of retirement 6 years after his last fight and fought straight away against the world heavyweight champion Jack Johnson.
Thought you would know that considering your display pic is an oldie ;)
42 yr olds who have been retired for 6 years do not come out of retirement and fight world champions or anyone else who is half decent no matter how good they used to be in 2008. At his best Calzaghe was a different level to Froch and would have completely outclassed him, now it would be a meaningless fight.
Good post.
42 yr olds who have been retired for 6 years do not come out of retirement and fight world champions or anyone else who is half decent no matter how good they used to be in 2008. At his best Calzaghe was a different level to Froch and would have completely outclassed him, now it would be a meaningless fight.
I say no because Calzaghe is just a bitter old man who is envious of Carl Froch's success.
Calzaghe hasnt fought in six years and hasnt exactly been looking after himself. He looks old as fook now. It would be crazy, but if 10 mil is on the table, he might think the ass whooping is worth it. I know I would!
Completely pointless. If Froch knocked him out, he wouldn't get any credit for it.
I think he'd get plenty of credit still. Calzaghe left undefeated and on top. Anyone who changes that course will go down in the history books.
Calzaghe did say before though he wouldn't come back for the number 2 in the division. If he did come back it would be for ward. Then again there's no money in that fight, only froch.
Waste of money unless Joe came back, beat someone of note first then fought Froch and Froch beat him.
A tune-up would usually be recommended but the problem is that Joe said he'd come back for £10 Million only, so who else would be able to offer that sort of purse? Froch is where the money is in the division now so unless Joe was to change his stance on the £10 Million then he couldn't take a tune-up before fighting Froch.