who is the number 1 super middleweight in the word-FROCH OR WARD

Ward inactive for too long with nothing planned and Froch's been on a tear Boxing moves quick

Ward is Number 1 without a shadow of a doubt, no argument can erase the fact that when they fought when Froch was nearer his prime than he is now, Ward outclassed him totally while also fighting with an injury. I struggled to give Froch 2 rounds in the whole fight and he was well out of his depth.

Come November a top boxing Magazine will be removing Ward from the P4P rankings due to poor competition but mainly his horrible inactivity compared to froch stella career since the super 6 close points loss to ward. Slimshandy69 defeats Dirk Diggler again... Who cares? Andre Ward proved he was better than Carl Froch in the ring. You know this. I know this. So why are you celebrating such minor victories? It's pathetic and indicative of an inferiority complex.

Come November a top boxing Magazine will be removing Ward from the P4P rankings due to poor competition but mainly his horrible inactivity compared to froch stella career since the super 6 close points loss to ward. Slimshandy69 defeats Dirk Diggler again...

His arse was handed to him by Ward. :lol1: ERRR ward was just as marked up and was flagging in the last 3 rounds, 115-113 in American suggests it was a comprehensive win, but he didnt get his 2arse" hsnded to him...

:unitedsta:usa: Which is why he isn't the best SMW. Of course he's not the best SMW. His arse was handed to him by Ward. :lol1:

He might look like a C level club fighter, but he's still beaten everyone except for Ward. Disagree about the jab. He has a good long jab when he wants to box. :unitedsta:usa: Which is why he isn't the best SMW.

First off you can have a decent belt made for about 2,500.00! In the last 15 years when do rankings mean a thing? Do you get a title shot off rankings? How do all these midget welters get title shots with one or two fights at welter? Rankings are meaningless with all these federations lurking everywhere! Froch has a long jab alright that comes back LOW 85% of the time. A well schooled fighters gets to him with combos off that LOW return!! It's called "rowing the jab" and you pay for that if your in with quality guys. Kessler, Bute and Groves are "quality competition"? Really" Their current but where are the skills the techniques? Their average ordinary skill level guys who happen to be contenders because that's all that's out there right now. Why aren't these guys stepping into 175? They're big enough! Let see them fight Kolav or Stevenson they'll make a decent pay. Imagine Stevenson in Germany fighting Bute? I think that's a winner for both guys. slimshader69? Yank this!!! :boxing: Ray

lol voting froch is just stupid

Ward is and there's no comparisons!!! Froch is a game guy who gives everything he has but his form and technique is horrible he look like a C level club fighter. Worse jab I've ever seen on a pro! I don't dislike him, on the contrary I wish more pros fought as hard as he does he simply gets over on his willingness not his skill level. Ray. firstly we are talking about rankings, not fantasy match ups, where may i add froch was 115-113 on two yank score cards. But more importantly its irrelevant how he looks, wards looks horrible with his clinching, excessive holding and head butting. Plus froch has a better resume than ward imo at super middle if you are currently comparing careers. But the most important point is that ward is not fighting, you cant be ranked number 1 without defending your throne...

Ward is and there's no comparisons!!! Froch is a game guy who gives everything he has but his form and technique is horrible he look like a C level club fighter. Worse jab I've ever seen on a pro! I don't dislike him, on the contrary I wish more pros fought as hard as he does he simply gets over on his willingness not his skill level. Ray. He might look like a C level club fighter, but he's still beaten everyone except for Ward. Disagree about the jab. He has a good long jab when he wants to box.

Ward is and there's no comparisons!!! Froch is a game guy who gives everything he has but his form and technique is horrible he look like a C level club fighter. Worse jab I've ever seen on a pro! I don't dislike him, on the contrary I wish more pros fought as hard as he does he simply gets over on his willingness not his skill level. Ray.

Denial, first sign of ignorance, you prove my point. Cheers nob. Does the concept of 'starting from the bottom' mean a jot to you? Or are you spoon fed everything, i rarely post about boxing on here because of '1 way traffic' morons like you, its pointless, you'd sit there and gladly recycle the same stuff just different words used all month, It's sad. I don't know if you have selective reading capabilities or a dwarfs memory but for the 3rd time. DEAD AND BURIED. Do. You. Comprehend? English? Yes? No? Now fuk off with your superiority complex cape. No discussion with you its all "me me me me me me me. or NE NE NE NE NE NE" bet that boost your SmallManSyndrome issues..... You can regard that as a curb stomp after me flattering you. I've learned off this thread. You're not that smart, difference between being 'well-read' and genuinely smart....You're barely the first one..... :smashfrea Now fuk of delusional fan boy. Officially, on the 7th of August 2014, the word Ward-Tart is a now a tern, all because of you you you "me me me me me" congratulations. You where a spoiled little child i can tell. I will ensure my Scene campaign makes a mockery of you now. Jab will be reading....:la: Are you on your Period???

according tpo the top magazines when November come that is over a year since ward fought and 3 years hes fought twice against horrible opposition. So you guys should remove him from your p4p lists soon...

I think Froch, but not because he is the better fighter(Ward obviously is), but because Ward has not fought a SMW in some time now, meanwhile Froch has beaten Kessler,Bute, and Groves.

So at point point of this/next year do you guys accept froch is the number 1 RANKED super middle weight... Depends on Froch's next fight and if he wins it. Potentially this year we could see serious discussion about dropping Ward. We're not there yet, but the moment is in sight.

So at point point of this/next year do you guys accept froch is the number 1 RANKED super middle weight...

Not trying to bud in or anything, but even if he did "struggle", it's a fight; do you hold Ward to that high of a standard that he's not allowed to "struggle" with anyone? Question..... How many guys has Froch struggled with? Kesslar, Dirrel, Groves x2, Taylor (lost all but the last 30 seconds of the fight), Pascal, etc. Going by your "struggle" stance, wouldn't this make Ward that much better than Froch dont give me the old "he lost all but 30 seconds" baloney against taylor, it was a split dicesion going into the 12th, even the American pundits had it a draw going into the 12 BTW the 12th was a 10-7 round which means froch would have won on points.

NE on the canvas, will he get up, will he get up? "He's not getting up, Jim" :lol1::lol1::439:

What are you a fuking detective? Evidence? If i wanted to be further educated i wouldn't come to you 'bro' i'd do what i'm doing now and starting to compete in bouts, i'll learn more doing that than reading your one sided opinions . You're blinded by ignorance/don't like hearing the other side of the coin so's to speak, "if it's not NE's idea/suits his ideologies it's a bad/incorrect statement". Proof? Well re-read our exchange, thats proof for everyone to see. So there's really no point in pursuing the matter really is there, i'm happy to agree to disagree on this one. I don't care for the pettiness NSB provides (i never took notice in the few years i've been here but today has taught me you're cut from that cloth too). Which i didn't think you where, i was under the impression you where one of 'the normal one's'. Someone disputes/replies/expresses their opinion on a matter you're discussing and you don't like it you're shook, and BOOM you're allover the keyboard like a coked up energizer bunny. Do you want a cape to go with your superiority complex? Serious stumpy, i don't care anymore, you stay in Ward Land and i'll remain open to both sides of an argument. I've already said Ward is more skilled and does amazing things, just not enough, as a fan i want to see more of him if anything. I don't know what you're malfunction is unless you are indeed a fruitcake. Years here/post count does not buy you 'my view is more valid than yours' points you know.... Funny i got 4 greens for my last reply to you, i must be getting something right.... Again, g'day OldAmerica. X Edit: oooh 5th green for that post, only two limeys, seems a fair few don't like your attitude. Use some of that money you have, and enroll yourself in charm school or whatever.... Anyway, buried 6 foot under, done, this bores me. NE on the canvas, will he get up, will he get up? "He's not getting up, Jim"