this sh** is soooo bad for the sport
this was meant to be a throwback... both young, both undefeated, both in their primes, both champions, no catchweight bs and it wasnt a big money fight either...
all the stupid things that usually get in the way of gr8 fights had been removed and you decide to QUIT ??
MMA guys are rolling around with blood pouring out everywhere.... Devon was meant to be a future star and instead he disgraced himself, the sport and his title... remember the WBC was the title that Meldrick Taylor defended with every fibre of his being before being stopped in the 12th by jcc
I wouldnt have minded if he just lost.... but QUIT ???
Paulie's right - he's a punk
Selling a garbage fight and people are already falling hook, line and sinker....sad.
Better fight??
And be real because we know that Floyd is no JMW.... he's always been a small welter before you start claiming he should find Carl Froch
cotto has a much better jab than those fighters had and hell double and triple them he wont be trowing one punch at a time
ive never known cotto to be a guy who regularly triples up on the jab..... his jab is underrated but he throws it heavy in ones rather than scoring in mulitples
What commissioned testing is Manny avoiding?
Why should Manny subject himself to a higher standard, when nobody else is?
Last I checked, other sports that require a higher standard of testing, require it of all participants, not just one or two.
Why is boxing only requiring it of one potential fight?
To better the sport by requiring a better testing standard for one fight,
doesn't really better it at all. It makes a mockery of it by saying its nothing but a loosely run ship where the inmates run the asylum.
Now, if you want to place this standard across the board, for all combatants,
I agree with you.
But in this case,
we've had hundreds of fights, low and high profile without any extra testing,
and nobody has said a word about it.
again with all the excuses for Manny ??? dam people...
I'll this again SLOWLY....
There should be no reason why a PROFESSIONAL athlete would want to avoid a more stringent drug test... none watsoever.... this aint about commissions (which if u follow boxing at all you'd know are crooks)
this about being confident in your own integrity... professional athletes are paid silly money and are role models to their fans and ambassadors to their sport - making ANY kind of fuss about drug tests is counter to that position... you dont need anyone to hold your hand.... as a professional these are things you should be willing to do
just like always being willing to take on competition (regularly) and not going on vacation very 5 minutes and still claiming u r the best
grow up guys - stop making this about your favorite boy
f**k it i say zab wins....
khan has all the physical gifts but he still fights like an amateur... straight lined flurries... zab has enuff experience to read and adapt
for all khan's qualities he still has no boxing brain.... i say zab on points, maybe even a stoppage by the way he put mabuza out the other night
now ill just sit back and wait for the khan-boys to go nuts
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Pac agreed to take the tests. Ball's on Floyd's court now. Man, how many times to we have to repeat this with clowns like these.
clown? u just proved how much of fanboy u really are... u say manny agreed to the tests like thats sumthing to be proud of.... when olympic althletes agree to take a test do u roll over and update your twitter account and facebook status ?? no you dont becoz its a non event.... but when manny does it its time for u to bring out the vaseline right ??
kids out here man... if u read the post it was about making ALL boxers be held to a higher standard.... instead u dragged it back into fanboy level.... well done
and if manny is so agreeable then why did he d*ck around for months with 30, 24, 14 and 7 days... why not just say yes from the start ??
its coz of people like YOU that these guys get away with this sh*t and give us fights like Clottey or JMW fights at 144
Do you just bow down to your accuser every time?
No. Most men don't.
bow to your accuser?? c'mon man stop being a baby... this is about how professional althetes conduct themselves
im no fan boy and ill argue just as much about once a year floyd too
but guys stop doing this... u know that ANY bs over drug testing is not good for ANY sport - quit sucking balls out here
Any professional althlete (especially a congressman) who has ANY kind of problem with more stringent drug testing cannot be excused for ANY reason - only a fanboy could deny this
ANY professional athlete who says he is the best in the world but only performs once a year and doesnt committ to continual competetive action is either lying to his fans or disgracing his sport - only a fanboy could deny this
Apply this same rationale to ANY sport and you'll see the truth
Get off the nuthugging ppls - that is what allows these guys to get away with this sh**
i like hearing about the diet and training regimes coz ultimately thats what meant to be his area of expertise
this becomes even more relevant when we are talking about a fighter who is moving up in weight... i found mackie's stuff kinda interesting too when he helped b-hop, rjj and spinks.
but beyond that this dude does need to STFU... he talks WAY too much... ive heard him talk about everything from a fighters corner to whom a fighter should sign with (promotion wise).
He has no business talking about anything other than diet, supplements and excercise
In terms of quality, its probably
1. Peterson
2. McCloskey
3. Witter
4. Prescott
In terms of significance, its probably,
1. Prescott
2. Petersen
3. McCloskey
4. Witter
McCloskey is a decent opponent. Would've personally preferred Prescott just to put that issue to bed.
on what basis is McCloskey rated higher than Witter ??
I kno Witter is shot but McCloskey has literally fought NO-ONE and he's already 31... at least Witter has mixed it up at a world level and has a couple of B rated fighters on his resume
if its just the age thing then fair comment... personally i reckon Witter would beat McCloskey
calzaghe was able to go into a ring with professional fighters and b*tch slap them for 12 rounds.... and according to his record there wasnt much anyone could do about it
sounds pretty bad a$$ to me
That doesn't really say too much about Cotto's hungriness as a fighter, I think he meant that Margarito was severely risking Cotto's health by (allegedly) using plaster in the first fight.
He then went on to dominate Margarito 9 rounds to none
i remember the context well.... he was asked what was most important to him in the rematch.... everyone expecting him to say revenge, redemption or justice
instead he said "my health"
I actually understand what he's sayin and cant hate on him for it.... but this a game full of warriors.... guys who would want to kill someone who put something in their gloves.... Cotto doesnt have the heart of his counterparts... even if he does have the skills
you look at guys like Meldrick Taylor or even JMM.... these men have NO quit in them
Cotto is not cut from the same cloth... so a scary staredown really dont mean shhh
And thats what little kids are all about , appearance , guy gives you a death stare at school and you sh!t your pants ,,,,,, lol looks harder buhahahaha
Floyd is 5-8 , thats a little guy lol and Cotto is 5-7 , which one is thicker ,, I know lol You !
real talk.... go by looks on the street and you'll get a nasty surprise
we all know what's in Cotto's heart:
"my health is most important" :sad:
I think Hopkins schools him clearly this time around, I thought he dominated last time but the knock downs really hurt his case--still shoud've won though. I can't see Pascal winning more than 2 rounds this go around, sorry Canadians y'all still have Bute (till Ward, Froch, or Hopkins take his soul).
agree with everything except Froch... people forget that Jermain Taylor made him look like a rank amateur for at least 10 rounds in their fight for the vacant WBC and had he held on for 15 more seconds he would have won.
Froch got heart, chin and stamina but a good boxer will make him look foolish.... Dirrell could've probably got the nod if they fought in Andre's hometown
wow can u type in proper grammar?? didnt really understand your post my nigg... and if u in the UK then u shouldnt even be talking.. HAHAHAH... phuck is a black dude doing in UK?? u lost or something?? the ship must of drop ya off on the wrong side of the country LOL...
dude im from the UK and i can tell you wont be talking that racist rubbish if u were in south london my friend...
talk boxing guys... allow the race wars
after his legendary show of heart / guts in the cotto fight
and the sh*t alexander was saying about him pre Bradley
Paulie can say whatever he wants.... unlike many others out there - he's actually earned the right
(plus he is funny as hell)
Really thats Pascal's only shot, if he trys to box with hopkins he'll get schooled
totally agree with this.... Pascals best shot is to come out like steam train right from the opening bell and try and end it early... he doesnt wanna go into the late rounds with the executioner
dam sum people really do love this whole pac v floyd stuff and somehow work it into EVERY story on boxing scene
Floyd has his own promotional company.. the ONLY reason he has worked with GBP is coz of the exclusive TV deal they have with HBO
Its no secret that Floyd and DLH dont like each other but yet they'll work together to make money.... this tells me that Floyd will happily abandon GBP if a better deal comes along... even if its Bob Arum
Neither Bob nor Floyd will say goodbye to $$$ regardless of how much dislike each other
Involving HBO & GBP creates more slices of the pie to distribute.... Bob is simply making good business
what a sad and poorly thought out thread...it makes 0 sense and was really pointless..floyd would never out weight manny by more than 5-10 pounds no matter what weight they fight at
co sign
wtf is wrong with people...??
stop living in your fantasy dream world of the good and the bad guy...
they are both men (not angels or demons) and they are both accomplished boxers... you dont acheive that level of success by being shook
they both know they are massive draws individually and since its the fans who are screaming for this fight they will make it when it makes sense for both of them
stop watching days of our lives and just wait... if it happens then great... if not then it was just not meant to be
Was Hagler shook when he never rematched Hearns... even tho everyone wanted to see it ???
now go to bed kids
ive no doubt that cotto will destroy mayorga in the ring, probably inside of 5 rounds
but lets be real here people - when it comes to pre-fight: mayorga's been cotto's daddy
Why is he a great trainer? What has he done?
he deserves trainer of the decade just for the handwraps thing alone.... he probably saved a few welters and super welters from serious injury... who knows how long Margo wud have carried on with that sh*t
when it comes to most entertaining there is no compeition
(In his prime) It's iron mike all day.... even the most casual of boxing fans were stunned by watching him in the ring
We all knw people who really arent that into boxing... but u kno u can show them some highlights of mike and thay'll be instantly entertained
james toney is a great example
amazing skills but questionable athleticism (especially now)
but Roach even said that JT is the only guy he's met who doesnt need to train coz his skills were just so good...
bernard is another good example... was never gifted with any amazing abilities such as power or speed (like Roy was)... but his skills and fundamentals are SO good that it doesnt matter
skills and discipline - the best tools in boxing... if you've then been blessed with athletic gifts too then your on your way to becoming a star
poor paulie - the guys got mad skills but he has no athletic gifts... less than your average guy in the punch department... he'll never be a superstar
lemme start by saying that im a bhop fan... i picked him to win the first time and i pick him to win again... and yes i reckon pascal is shook and wants no part of this rematch
but "disgusted by his behaviour" ?? cant agree with that guys for 2 reasons:
1. After Bhop stamped on a country's flag and screamed "no white boy can beat me" then u reap wat u sow... cant act the fool all your life and then get mad when it happens to you.
2. NOONE should be above reproach on the issue of testing for PEDs. I have NO DOUBT that Bernard is 100% clean but he could've just said "yeh no probs - anytime, anywhere".... i say the same thing about pacman too