Do europeans have a different boxing footwork???

European Fighters seem more stiff...I'm not using that as a negative...There are a lot of advantages to practicing a repetitive efficient form..Just like the Animal World Stiff frames are better at producing energy efficient movements..So they can travel very long distances with less energy..Horse's and Dogs are examples of more rigid body types.Lions and bears have a more flexible frame and gait..All can move very fast..But one form sacrifices efficiency for Flexibility the other Flexibility to efficiency..

Can you show me a link to a trainer and/or analyst who supports that view? Cause you're the first person I've seen who thought this. Guess that's a "no" then.

Its pretty much an accepted point of view that you lose power when punching down, so I dont know what your talking about. Can you show me a link to a trainer and/or analyst who supports that view? Cause you're the first person I've seen who thought this.

I was reading mannys book and in it freddy roach was saying that the europeans have better balance and footwork and thats why they are dominiating boxing right now... Is it true that europeans box differently and that there footwork is more evolved these days???? more evolved isnt the way to put it, good footwork is the same thing now as it was 50 years ago. however more often than not european fighters do have better footwork than american fighters. i thought it was common knowledge the caliber of boxing trainers have went way down in the states. fighters dont stick with the basics anymore, they overlook the fundamentals and it costs them down the road. in europe the amateur program is much better too, so when they turn pro they have a significant advantage over american fighters who arent as well schooled.

Yes. Expressed with precision. That Europeans are as competitive as they currently are is unusual. The norm is that North America dominates boxing (along with most other fields of human endeavor). Nothing more than a statistical anomaly. I assume this is facetious?

Umm.. NO Punching down helps you ground your feet where the power is generated from. Trying throwing a hook high up and tell me if you think that is more powerful. Its pretty much an accepted point of view that you lose power when punching down, so I dont know what your talking about. You generate power from your legs, so when your punching up, you get more leverage, cause you can drive off your legs upward, that is just commonsense, as I say, you must be another who's never Boxed in your life.

No offense, but that comment makes me think you've never Boxed. Punching down is much harder, and you can lose power, punching up gives you more leverage cause you can drive from your legs, which is where the power comes from, you have a lower sense of gravity. Umm.. NO Punching down helps you ground your feet where the power is generated from. Trying throwing a hook high up and tell me if you think that is more powerful.

Fighting tall does help. Punching upwards can take away power and punching downwards is more natural. By spreading your legs, you are indeed shorter, but yes, you can move faster and bend out of range. However, if you get punched with a hook, your balance can be off and you can be dropped. The issue with this is, one hand will be further from range compared to both if you were more up right. Also your feet aren't as planted, so generating power can actually be worse off. For example, if you were to chop timber, a straight up stance is much more stable. Not many would bend their knees. Being bent is much to do with movement than making power. It's all to do with the hips. No offense, but that comment makes me think you've never Boxed. Punching down is much harder, and you can lose power, punching up gives you more leverage cause you can drive from your legs, which is where the power comes from, you have a lower sense of gravity.

I'v heard Stewart say a very similar thing. I think it was in this mini documentary with Klitschko's camp prior to his Thompson fight. Emmanual said that when he started training Vova that he started with his footwork like he does with all his fighters but quickly realized that there was no need to work on Volodymyr's footwork or balance. He said that Klitschko explained how it was really focused on in what they were taught growing up and Volodymyr had it drilled into him from the age of 13/14. Stewart said he has had to spend a great deal of time with most Pro fighters he has trained to teach them proper footwork and balance. Watch guys like Tszyu, Arbachakov, and Nazarov for other very good examples. Vitali's is very unorthodox but that's due to his Kickboxing which was his 1st priority until he was about 24/25 years old. Lennox Lewis's footwork and balance on the other hand was something that Stewart helped improve greatly. I dont think Wlad does have that good a footwork, he's good at cutting the ring down, but if you watch him when backed up against Peter, his footwork looks all over the place. Wlad might have good offensive footwork, but defensively?

Oh man I'm done for now...was fun...thanks.

. The US had a great run in boxing Let it be known that somebody on the east side of the Atlantic ocean has now copped to this. My faith in evolution is restored.

Ya Americans are great at calling themselves "World" Champions while competing against only themselves. Let it slide, he's just upset America's best boxing trainer said European fighters have better balance and footwork. The US had a great run in boxing but all eras in sport come to an end.

Ya Americans are great at calling themselves "World" Champions while competing against only themselves. That's the best you can do? I expected better. You're Russian aren't you?

Yes. Expressed with precision. That Europeans are as competitive as they currently are is unusual. The norm is that North America dominates boxing (along with most other fields of human endeavor). Nothing more than a statistical anomaly. Ya Americans are great at calling themselves "World" Champions while competing against only themselves.

And Europeans aren't dominating boxing. No one region is dominating boxing. Yes. Expressed with precision. That Europeans are as competitive as they currently are is unusual. The norm is that North America dominates boxing (along with most other fields of human endeavor). Nothing more than a statistical anomaly.

yes that s y when sergio fights polish sausage makers and goat herders from kazakhstan it's a legit fight. You must really like Sergio man, you are sporting his pic in your sig and every post is about him....I like to see you supporting such a great boxer. So when did Williams and Pavlik and Dzinziruk tend sheep?

I'v heard Stewart say a very similar thing. I think it was in this mini documentary with Klitschko's camp prior to his Thompson fight. Emmanual said that when he started training Vova that he started with his footwork like he does with all his fighters but quickly realized that there was no need to work on Volodymyr's footwork or balance. He said that Klitschko explained how it was really focused on in what they were taught growing up and Volodymyr had it drilled into him from the age of 13/14. Stewart said he has had to spend a great deal of time with most Pro fighters he has trained to teach them proper footwork and balance. Watch guys like Tszyu, Arbachakov, and Nazarov for other very good examples. Vitali's is very unorthodox but that's due to his Kickboxing which was his 1st priority until he was about 24/25 years old. Lennox Lewis's footwork and balance on the other hand was something that Stewart helped improve greatly.

Haye thinks hes Jones? Why, because he fights with his hands down..De Gale thinks hes Mayweather because...i honestly see no similarity between these two. You've made broad statements on such small pieces on information, did Naseem Hamed fight like a "British" fighter?...Does Malignaggi/bradely/alexander look like fighters who punch from a wider American stance that generates power? See i can name fighters that contradict your theory about American/Euro gyms and if America have superior gyms then how is it that there are so few current american champions? Roy Jones himself has said it. Listen to Jim McDonnell, look at him doing his pitiful impression of the shoulder roll. Not a stereo typical British fighter no, but he had massive holes his defense, that is one of the reasons a lot of British fighters fail in the international stage imo, they have generally not been technically sound enough to compete, its not that they are lesser athletes, its the way they're coached, its this heart on the sleeve mentality, head over heart that makes defense an after thought regarding most British fighters. You can watch Skysports telecast for the whole year and cherry pick the handful of true defensive fighters, Ian Napa and the like. Its not about us vs them, that's the problem here, you have an agenda, I dont, I just call it as I see it, and im a Brit, but I wont allow my opinion to be censored cause other people cant handle it, as it does not fit their agenda, ima say what I feel. I cant answer the reason why American fighters are not as successful, as its just conjecture anyway, and if you have an agenda, like you seemingly do, you will play it off anyway, so I wont go into that, what I will say, is that Mayweather, Manny is the last generation of elite fighters from last 15/20 years so, the guys like Mosley, Jones, Tito, Winky, Oscar, Tyson, Holy, Barrera, Morales etc, are yesterdays generation, and there is barely anyone on the horizon, with the potential, capable of getting to their level, that, and the coincidence of Euro fighters, says it all for me, the standard is just not as good. Euro fighters might improved, but its deffo coincided with a drop off in talent. You think Martinez would of lived with Jones, Toney, or even Nunn?

There is a reason why they call him SUGAR Matthew T-Bone Hatton and thats because of his silky european footwork skills. Americans = U Mad! lol, to be fair, MattHatt's movement made Canelo look one-dimensional on topic, I'm not sure you can categorise an entire continent's boxing movement like that, every fighter is an individual with his own skillset

There is a slight change in the way some Euro fighters are fighting, but that is only because their trying to emulate past great American fighters who utilized that type of stance. Look at Haye, he thinks he's Roy Jones, De Gale thinks he's Mayweather, but essentially, what is taught in British gyms, is the same old same old, just that some Euro fighters, like Pirog, are trying emulate American fighters who are taught to fight this way. Haye thinks hes Jones? Why, because he fights with his hands down..De Gale thinks hes Mayweather because...i honestly see no similarity between these two. You've made broad statements on such small pieces on information, did Naseem Hamed fight like a "British" fighter?...Does Malignaggi/bradely/alexander look like fighters who punch from a wider American stance that generates power? See i can name fighters that contradict your theory about American/Euro gyms and if America have superior gyms then how is it that there are so few current american champions?