Now that Manny has said he will vacate his light-middleweight title and effectively said that he won't fight at light-middle again, would Floyd now campaign at light-middle so the fight with Pacquiao can never happen?
Pacquiao gave up 17lbs of weight in the ring against Margarito and this was at a catchweight. Giving away that much weight is dangerous risk to Pacquiao's health.
Manny is effectively a lightweight still, he can still make that weight, he planning to go for Berto's title or maybe go back down to light-welter or even lightweight for a title.
Mayweather knows Pacquiao won't compete at light-middle anymore so Mayweather can easily avoid Pacquiao by competing at light-middle now.
The sad thing is, the biggest threat to manny is a random blood test. I hope he continues to duck the test because once he agrees to take it his career will go down the drain.
He isn't going to be fighting at any weight class for a while. The only place he will be fighting is in the courtroom.
What about outside his house, in Josie's house and in the big house.:boxing:
Yes Floyd will be more comfortable at 154lbs than Manny, and if the fight is at 154lbs he will have a significant weight advantage.
And if he moves up and Manny doesn't follow him he will claim Manny is ducking him.
We should not excuse Floyd if he makes a move like this.
I Dont think we should excuse him but its not like he is stepping into a 154 lb weak class.
Seeing Floyd fight, Cotto,Angulo,Paul Williams, Cintron, and even Margarito at a weight that is not being manipulated is good stuff.
I dont know but its a good idea.
Not to avoid Pac but to have Pac follow him to a weight class where he Just has to fight the 154 pounders (PERIOD). No more catchweights and 142 1/2 150.4, 152.76 and all that crap.
NO MORE "SERGIO MARTINEZ IS TOO BIG BUT MARGARITO IS SLOW ENOUGH AND OK". "PAUL WILLIAMS IS TOO TALL BUT SINCE COTTO BEAT YURI, YURI IS OK". WHEN YURI WAS UNBEATEN, "BAD MATCH UP FOR PAC".
Yes Floyd will be more comfortable at 154lbs than Manny, and if the fight is at 154lbs he will have a significant weight advantage.
And if he moves up and Manny doesn't follow him he will claim Manny is ducking him.
We should not excuse Floyd if he makes a move like this.
I dont know but its a good idea.
Not to avoid Pac but to have Pac follow him to a weight class where he Just has to fight the 154 pounders (PERIOD). No more catchweights and 142 1/2 150.4, 152.76 and all that crap.
NO MORE "SERGIO MARTINEZ IS TOO BIG BUT MARGARITO IS SLOW ENOUGH AND OK". "PAUL WILLIAMS IS TOO TALL BUT SINCE COTTO BEAT YURI, YURI IS OK". WHEN YURI WAS UNBEATEN, "BAD MATCH UP FOR PAC".
I surprised at some of you, how you can defend Floyd if he decides to move to 154lbs.
It is a clear duck of Pacquiao.
Now Floyd has not done this, but based on his tactic of putting barrier infront barrier to prevent this fight, I think he will try something like this.
Now those who say he won't, I can respect your stance, but those who will defend Floyd if he makes this move, just proves that Floyd has got you under his spell and he can do no wrong in your eyes.
Take the "Floyd love goggles" off and try and judge Floyd objectively.
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1.) I dont see this as an excuse.... The man was basically trying to pay floyd pennies for a fight with hatton, cotto etc. To put it into perspective, Arum stated that no one wanted to see Delahoya and floyd fight, and that mayweather was asking for too much money... When as of right now that is the highest grossing fight of all time. Shane will probably recieve more fighting manny then floyd owuld have fighting cotto.. understand?? everyone knows that FLOYD AND ARUM are not the best of friends though that will change to make this fight.
2.) Floyd did want a bigger cut, but wasnt this all rectified when both parties decided on 50/50??? Didnt manny want this and did not floyd agree to this??? (FLOYD AGREED TO EVERY REQUEST MANNY, really roach MADE) Where the hell have you been, so far your first two points are moot.
3.) This was the only request Floyd made, and he agreed to x4 request by manny... In yoru rebuttal please enlighten us to what those x4 things were... I want to see if you intentionally block out this stuff.
4.) Floyd wants blood tests with no windows to allow manny to cheat as he suspects manny for cheating... You are so biased you tried to make it like your 3rd point and fourth point werent the same....Come on dude get real....
5.) Lets see floyd was lenient with manny, manny didnt want the test, now all of a sudden `14 days is enough time seeing that Manny knows Floyd too that deal off the table.. In all honesty, if anyones ducking then its PAC... What made him change his mind from 24 days to agreeing with Floyds old deal of 14 days?? Floyd told the world, that he was pissed and that all deals were removed... he wanted full testing which makes sense anyway....Remember what the mediator stated.....DONT BE A TOOL JUST LOOK AT THE FACTS AND NOT AT YOUR FAVORITE FIGHTER.
6.) Come on dude are you reaching much????????lol foundation seriously??????
7.) THIS IS EASILY UNDERSTOOD. BEING ONE OF THE RICHEST MEN IN BOXING IS NOTHING IF YOU never have time for your children, imagine working out for hours at your gym, only to come home and have the little ones ask you to play UNO.....Hell my job isnt as physically demanding as a boxer and I am tired when my nephews come over to see me and want to play "TROUBLE" LOL...
Alot of people gave shane flack for saying he wanted a vacation withhis family when asked if he would face floyd next..... I didnt because whether hes lying or not, the excuse given is a very understandable excuse.... FAMILY IS IMPORTANT. This isnt slavery, the man should be allowed to spend time with his family and also have them enjoy life with the man of the house....ONLY A RETARD WOULD CALL THIS DUCKING...
7.) Lets see his trainer is not focused, may be going to jail, has a rocky history with his father who trains as well, You really dont wanna switch up the winning team for the biggest fight of yoru life now do ya??
Lets say Roach died a month before the fight...... I could not blame pac for rescheduling to a later date... This is logical....Floyd trusts his uncle.... thats why hes allowed to train him...But Roger has beat them charges so this point is useless as well.
8.) Yeah because we all know that with your life on the line, and people accusing you in the media of doing stuff even though the person saying this has lied under oath before.....
Go back and watch the movie "KICKBOXER" with vandamme, and watch what the chick tells vandammes friend.. She didnt tell vandamme she was raped because his mind had to be clear for the fight...
Dont be a "SLOTH" for me there are no pactards, or flomos, you are classified as "SLOTHS" from the goonies talking this crazy sh!t.
9.) Every fight floyd has, he thanks HBO, AND EVEN BRAGS ABOUT BEING A TOP HBO FIGHTER, DONT ACT LIKE HE JUST STARTED DOING THIS NOW.....
10.)THIS IS THE **** YOU ARE SAYING, AND IF MANNY DOESNT TAKE THE TEST, I WOULD NOT BE MAD IF HE FOUGHT SERGIO OR SOMEONE ELSE AT 154....IF THE BEST CHALLENGE WONT GIVE IN TO YOUR X1 DEMAND THAT YOU ARE WILLING TO DO YOURSELF, THEN I SAY FUKK EM....
TO show you how biased people are, look at the poll, people know damn well this fight is gonna be made, but you can pretty much guess who is saying Floyd will run to 154.. yeah run to 154 where people hit harder to avoid a man smaller than you..lol
It is a list of excuses, now why would Floyd want so many of them to avoid the biggest pay check of his life?
You can make excuse for Floyds excuses but are these just a series of unfortunate circumstance for Floyd? Or is Floyd ducking Pacquiao? Occam Razer would suggest Floyd is ducking.
Pacquiao is a much bigger threat to Mayweather than anyone at 154lbs, Mayweather know that.
Mayweather has put barrier after barrier to stop this fight from happening, he will follow this trend and fight at light-middle if he ever fights again.
Just remember this thread, when he does. I can name about 20 Manny excuses, besides OST & no cut offs name what barrier Floyd put up for this fight not happening... please
lol.. proves u are a stalker.. damm i didnt know i have that much effect on u even after a few months already?? .. i apologized for what i mite have said that offended u.. im sure there was a good reason behind it...
ps. "my g00k" prounounce in my language actually means master LOL.. real shiit.. hahaha so thank u for the compliment, have a good day sir.. and try not to take things on the net so seriously, remember what u said a few pages back? its just the internet.
Like I said you came into my thread but I apologise too for my comments I don't even like being racist cause honestly it was an asian woman who helped me in the past when I was near dam homeless
damm i have a stalker now??? how did i start the racist comments?? my nigg to me is like my homie... trust me if i was trying to be racist i would of come out and say it, theres no beating around the bush here.. would it make u feel better if i said my homie instead??? :bottle:
You came into my thread my g00k (few months bk) so who's stalkin who really?
You were being racist end of story.
typical brother... snitching out the other guy.... and im giving u trouble??? LOL!!! haha my badd my nigg!! and it was u who made the racist comments first...
typical asian hatin on everybody else the thing is my g00k i've seen you in here START **** plenty of times you started the racist comments (like you usually do) so I responded. Thats my style I don't go around attacking people but I do bite back though, g00k
i didnt say u were black, and pacman have a huge fans outside of his own people also... and im not filipino. if your writing what u observed then u should saw the other racist comments by them.. but yup skip through that and reply to my post instead... awww i feel special now... thanks..
yeah you can feel special knowing it was your racist rant that caught my eye..and you started it, which encourages others to make racist remarks about you. you also replied to the comment about being a dog eater, an obvious remark to the Philippines, and you acknowledged it..unless it's a coincidence that you happen to eat dogs but are not filipino?
wow can u type in proper grammar?? didnt really understand your post my nigg... and if u in the UK then u shouldnt even be talking.. HAHAHAH... phuck is a black dude doing in UK?? u lost or something?? the ship must of drop ya off on the wrong side of the country LOL...
dude im from the UK and i can tell you wont be talking that racist rubbish if u were in south london my friend...
talk boxing guys... allow the race wars