Boxing isn't just about records. We all know that. It's also about who you beat and how you beat them. With someone like Wladimir coming in a 5 to 1 favorite, with his physical advantages, with the Heavyweight division being the mess it is and Wlad being the divisions primary hope, Klitschko needed a strong outing for his marketability, for his legacy, and for the division as a whole.
Steward was absolutely right to urge him to step it up and go for the KO.
I was hoping this fight would happen but I don't think it's going to be exciting anymore. I think it would be a couple rounds or so of Duddy eating straight rights before finding himself taking the beating of his life on the ropes. Hopefully Sturm or Abraham.
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Couldn't really score it but it looked like a solid couple point victory. Agree completely that taylor too inactive despite landing some quality shots. Just too few and far between in the end.
I give Taylor a lot of respect for fighting Pavlik again after the Brutal knockout the first time. Also, for his change in game plan and ability to correct bad habits of the past. He stayed of the rope almost the entire fight (expect for a bit in the 11th). That said, I think he lost the fight by a slim margin.
In any event, can we all agree we don't need to make this a trilogy?
Well, Trinidad and Roy did good PPV numbers in Jan. Pavlik's next fight will be at MSG in NY where there are a lot of Puerto Ricans. I'm fine with this of Duddy, but hopefully (re)up his competition after that.
I like Miranda a lot. I would probably cheer for him but I give Taylor a definite edge. Miranda has a chance at the KO but Taylor probably takes him the distance and wins by a comfortable margin.
I can't believe Marquez-Vazquez I is going to be considered the weak point of this trilogy!
That is pretty incredible. Thoughts on whether II or III is the highlight?
Even though we know dozens of the greatest fights in history would have had a different outcome at the cheap expense of ending early?
And some of those outcomes would have been comas and death.
We don't need them.
See Ray Mancini-Deuk-Koo Kim.
I wanted Marquez to win but all the credit in the world to Vazquez. He knew he might need that last round and he went out and took it by pure force of will. Incredible fight. Incredible trilogy.
So fighters haven't died in 12 round fights? There have been no statistical increases or decreases as far as I'm aware..
Obviously they have. But as fights go longer and as defenses begin to lapse with fatigue there is going to be a greater chance of serious injury as the fight goes on. Longer fighter, better chance.
exactly!
all this gonna do is king will go to showtime.
King ruined the heavyweight division he controls that division and its his fault it was ruined, for 3 years i remember he had his fighters going thru some silly round robin but never let them fight hte klitchkos.
or unify when they had titles.
Yep, and they've been having shit cards for awhile now (with a few choice exceptions) so what difference will it make to them.
Put the two of them in the ring together and who do you think will be willing to fight on the inside? Floyd is at his absolute worst when he is crowded and pressured. Jose Luis Castillo fight anyone?
I vote for Mayweather if this fight was possible. I'd hope Pavlik would knock him out and it could easily happen, but Mayweather isn't the pound for pound best boxer for no reason. The kid is slick.
PPV is killing boxing. Went to a bar and paid 10 to see it, then downloaded today. Not about to stream some shit and act like I could judge a fight off that.
I buy some PPV's at home. Recently Floyd/Hatton and Cotto/Mosley. But 60 dollars a pop (for HD) is just ridiculous. HBO has PPV's every month just about and their championship boxing once every couple months it seems. And then it's usually just one damn fight.
At least Hopkins/Calzaghe and De La Hoya/Forbes will be free... I applaud them for that.
I mean, everybody who is saying Taylor won also probably were claiming Taylor would knock Pavlik out when they fought again.
And GunStar is just joking obviously. He knows good satire.
I'm still not sure what will actually happen to Pavlik's stock. I think it should go up, but it probably won't. He might have to wait for a possible knockout over Duddy for that.
Taylor, on the other hand, seems to have had quite a stock increase despite the loss.
They showed some of the speech on the PPV, or in the lead up to it, and she didn't really support Pavlik over Taylor as I remember it. Think she used it as some kind of analogy, like "knock out poverty!" (lol, not really - but you get the gist)
Anyway, looking forward to March 4. The Texas vote finally going to mean something in a national election.
Terrible stoppage. I usually don't complain about stoppages. This ref could have stopped the fight at some point on the ropes and I might have been OK with it. Here though, in the center of the ring, with Lee throwing back hard, terrible stoppage.
I have to go with Kellerman, and his endless love for Black Slick Southpaws.
Kellerman just loves slick boxers period. See Paulie Malignaggi. This isn't really biased. He is a fan of pure boxers.
Why was Joe Tessitore off the list? I don't think he is biased, but I do think he is good. He would be a lot better if he was willing to shout down Atlas when something big was happening in the ring, instead of letting him babble on about the same point he'd been making the whole fight.