This kids been doing the rounds on talent shows and talk shows for years. Kid came out of the womb punching. He'll be huge some day. He also trains with Mayweather these days.
Here he is on Ellen when he was 7 years old.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKnUH8SJmh4
So 100k searches for Bradley-JMM for 375k buys and 200k searchs for Canelo-Angulo for 350k buys. Perhaps the extra 100k searches were for Canelo streams.
They said well over 350k
well ... over
speaka the Engrish?
Dunn, that's a great number for Canelo, especially fighting a guy like Angulo. Even with the bs effort on Perro's part, Canelo seemed to reignite his fanbase. Unlike Chavez, who kept going on a downward spiral after his fight with Martinez.
If it surpasses the numbers that the number 2 & 3 WWs did last year then you gotta look at this as a huge win for Canelo, IMO.
Yeah, with no good supporting card and a bad B side it would say a lot about Canelo's draw. Now imagine what he can do against say Martinez or Cotto with a strong undercard. If this did 400k then I could see Canelo vs Cotto doing 1 million.
That's a big drop off for the PPV King Canelo, going from 2.2m down to 300-400k. He's still the King at 2.2m though.
He's not down to 300k. Steve only said he heard it was above 300k. Only reason he set the mark at 300k is because Canelo gets paid more if the PPV buys are more than 300k. He's basically just pointing out that Canelo will get more money.
And what drop off? Canelo hasn't had a PPV exclusively to himself before. We're not going to pretend those 2.2 million buys were all for Canelo are we?
1 million? Idk if it'll do that much at this point but I can see it being on the 750-875k range with Cotto. Not so much Sergio.
I was going on the fact that Cotto's max buy rate seems to be 600k largely from the PR fan base, so if Canelo can get 400k from the Mexican fan base fighting a guy like Angulo the two separate fan bases are likely to go all in for a fight on this scale, with a good supporting card too.
Here is something that to me its crazy...Where do you get your numbers from,what kind of insight you have to suggest any numbers...I mean it takes quite a bit of calculating to come with an estimate and you say it like your research was made inside...Theres no way to know,not yet...I swear people here think they are accountants,fighters,analysts experts...Hasnt anybody noticed how like in 6 months everybody says the B side and A side word?..I been following boxing,practiced for a while,heard the b side here and there but since ward said it people say it ,in my opinion,to make them sound "more smarter"...Canelo did poor numbers,I am mexican and most of my friends are as well,none of them knew canelo was fighting,and they all are casual fans...Truth is we will never know real numbers since there is no way network will say it was a failure...
You don't even bother reading the post then act like you know what you're talking about. I quoted Steve Kim who has his own sources then pointed out that the online trends were higher than JMM vs Bradley. There's usually a very strong correlation between PPV numbers and online trends. Truth is, you don't know what you're talking about, not you're mad and going into denile because you have no leg to fall on. Same nonsense starts up after every PPV. If the event bombed it wouldn't have been the most googled thing in the USA.
Reaching a little?
Also is this purely PPVs? No theaters mixed in?
No this has been mentioned before by HBO and Showtime who have done studies on it. People tend to get into groups for PPV. Also when a PPV passes 1 million buys it changes into 1 ppv buy = 10 people. If it reaches 1.5 million PPV buys then 1 ppv buys = 12 people. If it passes 2 million PPV buys then 1 ppv = 15 people. Basically the bigger the PPV the more people on average show up to watch it.
I predicted 350-400K
If Canelo breaks 400K with Alfredo Angulo, a respectable opponent but not a headline draw anywhere really, then that's pretty successful.
Considering most people were saying they'd be lucky to get 250k buys it would be very good.
The card only deserves 250k buys though. Seeing as there's no other draw on the card aside from Canelo this is a great measuring stick for his draw power.
I felt great because I wanted to learn badly. I was always fast, but I had no defense at first and gradually became more of a slick fighter. There is a training section by the way, find it.
Yeah sorry but this place is a tad more active. Can be long enough waiting for a reply here too though. Was also looking for more varies replies from members with experience.
Huh? He turned his punch over instead of slapping, it's the opposite of what you wanna do if you wanna protect your knuckles. :pat:
If you have bad knuckles you don't want to throw a hook with your hand parallel to the floor. It raises the chance of doing damage. People who are worried about hurting their hands tend to throw hooks with their hands held vertically.
I just googled canelo so that should add about 4 PPV buys to the count.
It gauges interest in the fight. Usually if something is the most googled event in the US it implies there was a good amount of interest in the US.
I wanna know how many MMA deaths are there every year compared to boxing? It's like, I can't go a month without reading about a boxer from some part of the world dying or getting hospitalized from a brain bleed.. Maybe MMA fighters get concussed at a higher rate because their chins generally suck?
It's not comparable. Boxing is infinitely bigger than MMA. There are way more boxers in the world. There have been more pro boxing matches in one year than pro MMA fights in the last 15 years.
nah, no one has died in the octagon yet. the boxing ring has seen many deaths. boxers have generally better chins than mma fighters
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Around 6 people have died in MMA.
Unless you mean the UFC which only has around 300-400 fighters at any one time. It would be like taking 300 pro boxers and saying no one dies in boxing because no one in that group of 300 died.
Utter nonsense. Rarely will you see an MMA fighter who slurs his words. In boxing? All the time.
1. That's largely because MMA is still fairly young a lot of fighters really haven't reached that point yet. Even from the relatively small roster of previous gen UFC fighters there are top names slurring: Chuck, Miller, Rampage. Think of it the UFC only had around 200 fighters in its books back then and there's three draws out of those 200 who are going down hill.
2. Boxing is just bigger. By shear odds we're going to see more people get brain damage. That doesn't mean it's more common, just that there's a wider pool of people who can get it.
no but many others have and found this to be conclusive. it is fact that boxing causes far more permanent and serious damage. it's not even debatable
but where is your study? Surely if something is a medical fact there must have been some kind of study? I've seen studies on brain damage which show boxing isn't even in the top 20 sports most likely to cause brain damage.
More of a sport then boxing.. At least top guys fight each other
Floyd-manny
Floyd Bradley
Thurman porter
Ggg serg
Stevenson kovolev
Garcia gamboa
Vasquez burns
The list is endless,,,, UFC at least delivers meaningful title fights every time,,
I'm 90% certain now that you're a forum bot because I'm pretty sure I've seen you make this exact same post before from the exact same comment.
I'll say what I said to you then. UFC is not a sport, MMA is the sport. FIFA is not a sport, football is a sport.
Is it not fairly well established that it's the sub-concussive blows that do the most damage in the long run? It's the cumulative damage that is the major issue I think.
no it's not
There's a thing called hear say, but that's not evidence of anything.
very misleading.
it's the blows that don't knock out out and pile up over a long fight that really take something out of you. sparring, amateur career, and long pro careers of 10 or 12 round contests.
short knockouts are actually better for you in many cases.
did you perform a study?
mma is garbage and will be banned soon. Shogun just took FIVE hammer fists to the back of the head and the entire fan base thinks it's ok for the ref not to call that.
the same fan base that thinks someone's leg snapping in two is awesome then wants that person to make a comeback in the same year.
are you serious? several people have died in mma, the last one was just a month ago.
not in big shows but it has been well publicized regardless.
He won't reply to you. The people who post that **** are either dumb as bricks or paid to spread the word.
Boxing in Japan is pretty popular. Most TV rating websites for the country have it listed as a top 5 sport. I think all of the big networks have a fight every month, but it's usually those big fights like the three Kamedas, Ioki, and Yaegashi who clock in the big numbers. During the 2012 Olympics boxing was the second most watched sport over all. Fighting Harada is in the top 5 most watched Japanese programmes of all time. Tyson vs Douglas is in the top 10, as is one of the Kameda fights.
Compared to other sports it doesn't pull the regular viewing figures that say Sumo, baseball and figure skating pull, but those major events tend to lift the over all average of viewers so numerically speaking it's still in the top sports. Sumo for example will reguarly appear in the top 10 each week, but more people will tune in for boxing than they would sumo.
His fights didn't need to be fiddled with. He didn't fight anyone capable of beating him. His record is pretty poor, probably worse than Wlad's.
Marciano was one of the greatest ever and criminally underrated and disrespected on NSB.
So out of curiosity do you think Floyd who is undefeated and has a better resume than Rocky is even greater?
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In February 2004, the arrival of Oleh Tyahnybok as party leader led a significant change in moderating the party's image. Then still the Social-National Party of Ukraine, it changed its name to the All-Ukrainian Union "Svoboda", and abandoned the "I + N" ("Idea Natsii" Ukrainian "idea of a nation") Wolfsangel logo (a symbol popular among neo-Nazi groups) with a three-fingered hand reminiscent of the 'Tryzub' pro-independence gesture of the late 1980s. Svoboda also pushed neo-Nazi and other radical groups out the party, distancing itself from its neofascist past while retaining the support of extreme nationalists.
I don't know about Stacked
You have the champ, Wlad
Then you have a future ATG Wilder
and then it's a huge drop off.
Either Wlad retires or gets ko'd by wilder, then Wilder is going to take over and rule for like 10 years.
I don't see anyone on the horizon who can handle what Deontay is bringing to the table
Fury and Jennings are more experienced than Wilder.
Joshua and Parker are the two hottest prospects. Parker beat Botha in one of his first fights. It takes a lot to beat a former champ so easily.
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02690/Anthony-Joshua3_2690902b.jpg
http://cdn.3news.co.nz/3news/AM/2013/6/13/301382/Joseph_Parker_Francois_Botha-1200.jpg
^^ lol took me a minute
I could buy this list, at first I thought mma for sure, but i guess this list was made before the mma explosion.
I don't think MMA would qualify to be honest. In boxing if you're getting beat down by punches you can't just grab the guy's leg and pull him down on the ground. I know wrestling is tough in itself but that doesn't change the fact MMA fighters use it simply to get out of a bad situation. That's why MMA fighters can't seem to take punches as well as boxers, they aren't used to having to endure the unendurable. You would never see something like that moment in Bradley-Prov where TB was out on his feet yet keeping himself up and holding Prov back. It would have gone to the ground in a heartbeat. A lot of major MMA fights can also average 20 or so punches per round. Boxing? Often over 100 per round. And no top athlete in their own sport should be running out of steam before the first round is over. The amount of times I see MMA fighters gas out in title fights is ridiculous.