crillz

NVM I didn't even realize they are showing the fight on Fox Sports En Espanol

you guys are crazy, how can you not like to watch Wladimir Klitschko fight? there is nothing wrong with a strategic fight, he's doing what he's supposed to do as a boxer so he isn't the problem it's the people claiming to be Boxing fans and don't want to watch a man box, he's giving you all you could want man he's on a 12 win streak, he fights EVERYBODY and he is not a full of shit fighter. it really astonishes me the amount of hate such a great athlete and man like Wladimir Klitchko gets on here. you would think people would put aside the shitty reasons not to like him and give him his respect by now but people just can't see to appreciate him

Dag I cringe everytime I see how he knocked my boy Chelo out, I met Chelo a couple times and he's a cool dude, he owns restaurant in Brooklyn and my pops took me there to meet him, dude is a warrior but yea man that was an ugly KO by Rocky Juarez

yo -EX- you know of any gyms located anywhere in the Upper East Side of Manhattan? I would love to try out Boxing but 23 years old is far too late to do anything anymore in Boxing, I'd do it for the love of the sport and just to test myself though

thanks for the replies -EX- and Larry, I really gotta look further into this because this is something I want to give a real effort at while I still can

ima sit this one out, last time I over did it and got muted so ima just let some more dust clear from that explosion and i'll be on next time. what's the schedule again though becuase I thought the shows were 3 times each week monday, wednesday and friday

All he has to do is prove it in the ring, not this drug crusade bull$hit of his! Is he a fighter or a drug crusader. A fighter will fight anyone and is "NOT" afraid even if his opponent is on something or not. If he wants to be a drug crusader then he should retire and ask for a job at the commission office. And he can start by asking his Dad and Uncle to take the test, cause for dam sure there on something. They should have all fighters and trainers clean. Tell Floyd to stop being BITCH and just fight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This isn't no drug crusade this is 1 man doing what other men can't, not everyone is going to enforce his style of testing on fighters, this is not the usual but yet the usual has proven to be a failure time and time again, they need to erase any doubt or chance of cheaters cheating and this method causes the mental road block to make a cheater say "I better not cheat the week of the fight because if they test me on that day I will be dirty", it doesn't give them the solid ground they need to cheat and be okay with it.. Mosley WASN'T caught cheating using standard testings and who knows how many other, Floyd has everything to lose and if he's to lose it then he at least wants to know it was against someone who was on an equal playing field. I think by now after calling out Shane Mosley twice in the past and then finally fighting him and making him look shot even though Mosley was probably coming off his best win ever people can give Floyd respect of at least not fearing no one but I see that is just not how it is.. Floyd isn't scared of no fighter but if you're him and you know the dangers of this sport 1st hand would YOU fight someone who in your mind is on steroids and you don't have any? wouldn't YOU want re-assurance? the testing may be the biggest and most highly noted stipulation in the contract but what the corrupt media forgets to report is that it's his ONLY demand, they make Pacquiao to seem like some sort of innocent dude but in reality the only reason some of Pacquiao's demands aren't being dually noted by the media is because they weren't turned into a big deal and you know why? think about it. it's because Floyd, being the NOT SCARED NO BULLSHIT guy he is accepted Pacquiao's demands, he didn't give it a chance to become head lines because he accepted with no 2nd thought causing no hassle, he makes only 1 demand and instead of the American public who he fought in the Olympics for backing him up and trying to get Manny to take the test they turn around and try to get Floyd to drop his ONLY demand, they would rather give Manny all the demands and have Floyd go from 1 demand to 0 demands and that's bullshit

I used to go to a Boxing GYM around 3rd ave, and I believe the name of the GYM was Juan La Portes, don't remember too well. Gym doesn't exsist anymore though... I used to train in a gym where LaPorte was coaching at when I was a kid, I think you are referring to Betances Gym, if not that one then probably it is a different one but he was in all these gyms at some point or another. dude is a class act, we like to call him the uncrowned champion and I think many of you know why he got that name

yo Gorilla no lie my dude I was JUST about to make a thread about this, it's such a coincedence it's almost scary son no lie yo.. whoa.. nah but did they actually find the knife that killed his wife? did they PROVE any of his "guilt"?

dude is a dolt, seriously man there was always something about his face I can't stand and I'm not the kind of person to feel like that about anyone for no reason but something about his face makes me dislike him. he says he wants Mayweather, the fighter, to lose all because of what idiots are saying about him? how much love do you really have for the fighters who make this sport then? seriously this guy needs to just put aside what his fans say, Floyd is a great fighter and I would like to see his greatness and live threw not wish him failure and to be declined as one of the bunch. we need more Boxing fans and less journalists reporting our sports news..

Just watch you all the hate will flood the boards, everybody going to say now he REALLY doesn't want to fight Caba because Bernabe tagged him, the fvckin idiots will surface VERY soon so beware everybody!

LOL @ trying to hurl insults because other people are able to pick up obvious clues. Floyd is afraid of Manny. His entire family is. You're just a retard plane and simple. explain to me why you think that? Manny Pacquiao accepted a 14 day cutoff? so fvckin what? the deal is NO cutoff not 14 days so he could say 14, 18, 21, 24, 27 or 100 and it wont matter because saying anything other than NO cutoff is basically saying you don't want to fight. Floyd already offered that and Manny said no, now that offer is off the table and Floyd wants more money, do you have any REAL argument for me or is it just going to be more directionless stupidity that you going to type? also by what I hear Floyd isn't even trying to think about Boxing, he already made 2 attempts for Manny and both times he was refused so now he's taking a break and enjoying his money, he will come back when HE is ready and not when nobody else wants..

I'm honestly beginning to like this, retards like some of the guys in here are what keep people buzzing, any publicity is good publicity, it means people designated YOU as "that guy" they either going to love or hate, in Floyd's case they hate him, they shut off their ears and eyes to him but they are the biggest and deepest cause to his success, by hating him so much you end up giving him love because he needs the attention Boxing fans give him to be as big as he is whether the attention is bad or good.. bottomline is Floyd Mayweather is not afraid of Manny Pacquiao and Manny Pacquiao is not afraid of Floyd Mayweather, the issue hereis that in order for them to show just how much they DON'T fear eachother and get in the ring they have to negotiate which if you know anything about negotiations they are not always successful. both these men are warriors..

Juan Diaz is in the past. Probably that Malignaggi upercut gave him brain damage! Pacquiao agreed on Mayweathers 14 days cut off demand! Mayweather didn't offer a 14 day cut off demand, you referring to the 1st negotiations and even then he still didn't want a cut off he just budged a bit in an attempt to get this fight done. Mayweather didn't offer a cut off the 2nd time around he made it clear there will be no fight if he doesn't take FULL random testing and he wants a bigger slice because his last PPV sold more. Manny Pacquiao is full of shit! how about that one

So you are saying that Floyd wants to fight Pacquiao so bad that his 14 days cut off is off the table! PWNED! Anyway no one cares about lil Floyd,its all about Pacquiao a FOTD ,p4p number 1 and 8 division champ! 1st off it's 7, it'll be 8 if he can edge past the plaster man a.k.a brick layer.. 2nd business is business, Floyd already said that the 14 day cut off offer would be off the table if the fight with Mosley went threw and that he would want more money in the next negotiations if his PPV sold more, and guess what? the fight with Mosley went threw eliminating the original 14 day cut off offer and he sold more PPV's making him want more money. what does Pacquiao do? instead of just taking the tests with no cut off he goes and tries to accept the 1st deal which he knew was no longer on the table.. 3rd and lastly pull Pacquiao's nuts out ya mouth man that shit is not cute, call shit down the line I'm not picking sides here I'm just connecting my own facts here. truth is that until Pacquiao comes out and says that he is willing to take random style Olympic blood testing up until the night of the fight then he's basically saying he doesn't want to fight. you might have so much hate for Floyd that you'll purposely cover your eyes from the truth just to have reason to hate him but the truth is that it's MANNY killing this mega fight we all want to see, we could have had this fight on May 1st 2 months ago had Manny just stopped bullshitting and accepted the offer he ended up accepting anyway in the end but just the first time around Floyd could have BEEN taxed that ass.. not enough real Boxing fans on here man just fan boys and idiots..

anyone got a link for tonights fight? green K will be given, any help will be appreciated.. also I'm looking to bet 50K on Marquez, let me know..

Crillz, where have you been? Apparently, you haven't been reading ESPN or some boxing sites. The drug testing is no longer an issue. Your boy just doesn't wanna fight little Pac. Crillz, wake up, dude!!!! You should be mad that your boy doesn't have the balls to face his biggest challenge. Media personalities are calling him a coward for a reason. You still don't get it!!! the drug testing is no longer an issue? so basically what you telling me is that Pacquiao agreed to Olympic style random blood testing all the way up until the day of the fight? because that's the only way drug testing is no longer an issue and the last I heard is Manny Pacquiao asked for a 14 day cutoff date.. regardless even if he DID accept testing up to the day of the fight Floyd now wants more money because his PPV sold more which is only right, they both fought against people who don't put asses in seats except Floyd sold more and proved his ability to generate the bigger audience therefore he wants more cash.. all Manny Pacquiao and Top Rank have done is pick and choose Mayweathers demands but they themselves haven't accepted anything while Floyd the 1st time around had budged from 0 days to 14.. everybody is so quick to pick and choose sides but what they don't realize is that Top Rank and Manny Pacquiao are the problem because we could have BEEN had this fight if it wasn't for their bullshit..

so there's no fight because floyd didnt get what he wanted? is that how mega fights between 2 stars of close to equal stature & power get made? it seem that pacquiao has conceded while floyd isnt but using a take it or leave it approach. Pacquiao has conceded to what? conceding would be accepting no cut off date. the fact there was even a negotiation on the cutoff date was due to Floyd already budging but he already said if you wait until after the Mosley fight I will want more money and there will be no cut off date, Manny said no and is now trying to act like he can say yes now and it's okay but it's not because Floyd is tired of his shit already, he could have said yes to the deal he's saying to right now back when it was on the table and we would've had our fight but nobody speaks on that right? everybody just needs to hop off Pacquiao's dick is all..

First the OST, then purse split ten, no negotiations then the taxes then taking a vacation...Spin it on any way you want. They all sound the same. Excuses for Floyd not to fight Pacquiao. it was always the OST, the more money demand came after Manny declined the 1st deal of a 14 day cutoff and equal money. Manny could have just took the deal while it was still being offered but he waits until after he knows it wont be there to accept it.. all Floyd was asking for was random testing, he gave him every chance to fight him on May 1st but Pacquiao ended up letting Mosley take that date. Floyd is going to stand his ground on the negotiations he's not just gonna bend multiple times when he already budged twice on the first negotiations and all Manny did turn away the fight.. the only one giving out stupid ass reasons not to fight is Manny Pacquiao, c'mon man what Boxer in the world is going to have a problem with taking a more intense blood test? all Pacquiao can do is put up his shield and cry foul in a court room, innocent people don't have to do that yo only someone who is dirty would have a problem stepping up and taking a blood test

No. They agreed to terms Mayweather set the second time around, which was 14 days of no random tests leading up to the fight. which is ridiculous by Manny Pacquiao and co. because Floyd said that deal would be off the table if he had to fight Shane first

I saw that long time ago when he was offered a fight against Margarito for 8 mill and he instead he took 10 time less money for Sharmba Mitchell fight! Now he fought 40 year old guy Mosley who basically just came out of retirement instead of Pacman! Pacquiao refused a 14 day cutoff period of the blood testing and a good money split and he said no, Floyd told him that the offer would no longer be on the table if he had to fight Mosley and what did Manny Pacquiao and co. do? they waited until AFTER the Mosley fight to accept the deal knowing it was no longer on the table. he made it clear he would want more money if his PPV sold more and it did so he now wants more money and NO cut off date, that's the NEW deal you can't just dig up the last deal and pick up from there because things changed. Floyd Mayweather Jr is his own man, he doesn't have to fight anybody if he doesn't want to OR he could fight Cotto and it would be a great fight OR maybe even Timothy Bradley or even Andre Berto, whatever he does though 1 thing is a definite and that's the fact that he calls his own shots, Pacquiao can't do that. let Pacquiao fight that bum in Mexico and cheat history by fighting someone for the world title in a division where both you and your opponent aren't even ranked and do it for a vacant world title, yea let him go do that, Floyd is going to play his shit smart the way he always does and when they finally DO fight you better believe Manny is going to be taking those tests because Floyd ain't budging..

there was a lot of bull**** happening, Chad could have just took the loss and stood fvcked but he opened his mouth and said something about what he saw was happening, which is respect too.. thing is man them scores were horrible, the ref really didn't warn Pascal much about anything. basically everything Chad complained about he had a valid reason to complain about it, I wouldn't have stood quiet neither.. he gave Pascal dap after the fight but he was pissed u feel me, anger and emotion got the best of him but by no means is he wrong for feeling how he feels, I was actually betting on Pascal but even I could see why Chad was mad, that was just an ugly result to a fight with a lot more left to unfold

are you kidding me? - claimed pascal was purposfully headbutting all night long - claimed pascal was holding and hitting all night - refused to shake pascals hand at the post press conference - called pascal a runner - called pascal a coward and im sure that i'm still forgetting some things. Dawson's a phaggot. Nah but think about it Mik how do you expect him to react? see had he been knocked out or beaten in a non disputable way then I can assure you Chad would have been classy but the way it ended saw Chad in the advantage, well on his way to win the fight yet Pascal walks away a winner due to the result of a foul.. Thing is people need to understand Dawson only needed a couple of knock downs which he still had WAY more than enough time to do. Chad is methodical but the way he paced himself you can tell he was saving up something for the Championship rounds, he came out banging in the 11th and most likely would have in the 12th also.. He has every reason to be mad, Pascal WAS doing a lot of what Chad said he was doing it's just Chad was bitter at the time about it but there is SOME truth to what Chad was saying. Pascal would also throw pitter patter, Oscar De La Hoya style punches where 7 are thrown, 1 lands on the face, 1 on the body and 5 on his shoulders, gloves and arms it's just it looked so good and the crowd cheered so loud, 1 has to think that that affects scoring you feel me.. Overall it was a bad night for Chad, he's top tier so for him to get done like that is not a good look

from Dougie's FAT Friday mailbag Posted Aug. 13, 2010 at 02:32am By Doug Fischer http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/586/fischerh.jpg http://www.ringtv.com/blog/2208/dougies_fat_friday_mailbag/ this guy is one of the biggest idiots in Boxing, seriously all he does is support his own opinions with bull**** and not facts. Mayweather left Bob Arum because Arum owed him money and didn't want to pay and to this day he has yet to pay Floyd, he wanted control of his own career therefore he split and with Golden Boy they was just signed help Floyd was not a 100% golden boy fighter they was only co-promoting and if you notice it was in fights where he was fighting golden boy fighters.. seriously Doug Fischer is what's wrong with Boxing, when you give people like him a chance to publicize Boxing look at what he says. Floyd been his own man for I a long time already so how did he "leave" golden boy? even worse how is he ducking Pacquiao when he already offered Manny a fight and MANNY was the one saying no. what you gonna tell me that was then and this is now? then why bring up when he was with Top Rank if that was then and this is now. there are many double standards and idiots like Doug Fischer who bash Floyd without it even being called for right now and just let Pacquiao's bull**** fly.. if he wants to come out and give random shots to anyone why doesn't he talk about the man who left the cum stain on his upper lip Pacquiao who is about to cheat history yet again and slap all of us in our faces by fighting for a paper title against a guy who isn't even ranked let alone licensed in any respectable commission, try talking about that Dougie you little ass kissing prick!

100% Pacquiao and co's fault, matter fact 110% their fault. the solution to all what they say is a run around, the solution to what Mayweather says leads to a fight. Manny Pacquiao has had NO valid argument as to why he doesn't want to take those tests, the first time around he declined and I respected him standing his ground but then he folds to the 1st offer? so why did you not just take it then if you're willing to take it now, they want Floyd to fall into their bullshit but that's not going to happen and what do they do? instead of making sacrifices to get a fight going they fall back and cry foul

Fair enough, but dont you want the fight to happen now? For whatever reason Pac decline the first time (election campaign, who knows?), you do realized the OST is "NOT" necessary and was only reason the fight did not happen back in March. it's not necessary? I think it's VERY necessary when there has already been a man PROVEN to have beaten those "standard" tests the commission offers, how can we trust the commissions testing policy when someone already very much publicly beat those tests and was proven to show he had roids in him? when you look at it like that it's VERY necessary.. you gotta remember the "could" is out of the window, you can no longer say to Floyd it can't be beaten because it already has been beaten, so he therefore has all the grounds he needs to make these demands, and then here you got this little guy who does shit no one else has ever done, made it look effortless against a guy who walks around at 180 in Hatton who was the champion there with only 1 loss in like 46 fights. the grounds to speculate are there Pacquiao has just been looking for ANY avenue out instead of in..

I watched this fight many times and honestly it's just a close fight, it went Floyds way and in the rematch he showed why. you have to remember Castillo's chin was iron at that time and still a prime fighter when he fought Floyd, fighting Castillo in his prime is like fighting Morales in his prime man they would both give you 12 grueling bloody rounds. all in all I watch the fight and honestly I can see how those rounds can go either way, Floyd still managed to impose his own skills too so it wasn't all just Castillo. it's one of those things that happen in Boxing. people who complain about this fight should shift their focus to Joel Casamayor VS Jose Armando Santa Cruz and then come talk to me about a robbery

You are a FLOMO!!! Manny was never the bigger man, he is a midgett! BOY is just scared!! this isn't the real Coach Webb right? nah seriously I'm asking for real because last I checked he was a Floyd supporter not a hater. if it really is yo then don't fall into ignorance, Floyd Mayweather is not afraid of Manny Pacquiao nor any man, you know this.. the fight didn't happen due to Manny Pacquiao and co, they are 100% to blame, I'd like for anyone explain to me how it can be any different because everybody is sucking Pacquiao off like he's really the one and he's actually the one killing this thing for the fans..

If Mayweather EVER fights Cotto in his LIFE...HE should be Called a "BITCH" Cotto is a dead man walking when talking about a potential fight with Floyd Mayweather.. Seriously, I am really oppose to this fight. There is no argument I will accept or want to hear as to why this fight should happen. My answer is "NO" I have been reading a few articles and a few threads trying to hype this bout up...and I genuinely feel and think this match up to be completely absurd..! No Real Mayweather fan "IMO" should want this fight. With Mayweather fighting in his last days of his career, I do not want to see him fight the likes of Miguel Cotto when he should be focusing on trying to make a Manny Pacquiao fight happen. The only top rank fighter I want to see Mayweather fight is Manny Pacquiao.. the rest of those guys is worthless when talking about a potential match-up with Mayweather, FIGHT Manny Pacquiao or Leave Top Rank alone is my belief, there is no other reason to deal with Bob Arum unless it has to do with Pacquiao. Win or Lose on November 13th. I want to see Mayweather vs. Pacquiao next year. Not Mayweather vs. Cotto/Margarito/ any other top rank fighter... Manny didn't take the tests so they wont fight but that doesn't mean Cotto wont, maybe it would be an easier negotiation and trust me when I tell you Cotto would come to fight and he's not full of shit he will take that test. Here's what fvcks me up tho, Manny is about to fight a guy who got knocked out by the guy Floyd just beat so why can't Floyd fight a guy who got TKO'ed by the guy Manny is about to beat? there's always a double standard when it comes to Floyd Mayweather Jr even from some of his most loyal fans (ahem, Horus..) he didn't fight Manny because he refused to take Olympic style random blood testing leading up to the day of the fight, Floyd was clear when he told Manny the good money split and the 14 day cutoff was only on the table for the May 1st date, he let it be known that he would no longer offer a 14 day cutoff period if he had to fight Mosley on May 1st and would want more money if his PPV sold more and Manny Pacquiao and co. said NO to that until AFTER the Mosley fight knowing that it would be off the table by then, this isn't a more brought up point amongst analysts because nowadays everybody is kissing Manny's ass but some people still aren't.. Mayweather VS Cotto is a great set up for Mayweather VS Pacquiao, they would both be fight 2 of each of their past opponents, they will have both fought Hatton, Oscar and Cotto THOROUGHLY eliminating anyone else who was in the bigger picture and they would both be 154 pound champions, Mayweather would be able to take more time off before he signs a contract and fight when he's ready and overall it would be a good look, I seriously don't see the problem there Horus..

is this a conference call only for the media? can regular people call in or just people with a IN on the Boxing world? I'd call if anyone has the number..