I guess soldiers Who Duck for Cover during massive gun fights " doesn't fight like men" too huh??:usa:...smfh stupid prick!!!...
So are the Cops who Wear Bullet Proof vest..The Criminals don't...Come on take that vest off and have a Shootout like "Men"..:fing02:
easy he will join Showtime thats where he made his name with the super 6....
He will Get Al Haymond to manage him!!
for Ward its not about Legacy anymore I think dude is already a shoe in for the Hall of Fame....Why would he Join Top Rank, when Oscar, and Floyd Left Bob...
Bob tried to lock Oscar up in Contract bull**** like ward is going thru now.
He will Join up with haymond If anyone can make him a Household name its GBP/Haymond... and I wouldn't be Surprise if they can got him a 50 million 5-6 fight Contract... which i think will be the new Norm in boxing...The top Fighters will start getting Contracts like NBA/NFL players...
Bottom Line he wants to be Paid!! like the #2 p4p at the end of the day!!!...
Bradley
Marquez
Pac
Canelo
Cotto
Chavez
Sergio
are all getting paid more than him!!!
I think Bradley wants a 50/50 Split!!!
Bradley has the Official Victory over Pac(Judges that scored the fight)
His Last PPV Sold 200,000 less than pac last PPV......
Pac Needs Bradley More than Bradly Needs Pac Rite now!!!
Bradley knows Tho Soon as his Contract is up he can go fight Floyd and get his Biggest Payday!!!!
But how come this is the same story with fighting Pac all the time!!!
Why Roach and Arum always ***** about his Opponents Waiting big paydays?
How come we never hear this from GBP and TMT?? it seems like everyone always makes more fighting with them
he was on the bike at moments in the pacquiao fight but yeah the provo fight showed the man has a pair of balls
But when Pac Did the Same against Rios ya'll side it was a Boxing lesson!!!
I get it tho....
When the Black Slick Fighter Does it.he's running, or a Chicken!! smh
I Notice that on this Board...Every Slick Black fighter=Runner
Fighter of any other race use that style he's a great Boxer lol
Pacquiaos nver failed a drug test plain n simple. Look at the tuys that have been getting caught...found through piss more than blood. Why isnt there a blow up on those 2 guys from mayweathers camp for testing positive?
Oooo thats right cuz they not on top of sport n with may so lets just brush it off n blame pac, marquez etc.
But that statement from roach is not a good look for pac. Even though ariza now seems like a two face p.o.s. like ellie sechback
Weak Argument Shane Mosley Never Failed a Test Either.......
Arod
Lance Armstrong
Barry Bonds
Sammy Sosa
miles better than the guerrero floyd fight, which was held in vegas, stacked with mexican undercards on cinco de may worth millions of dollars, and heavily promoted.
as opposed to two fighters having both lost their last fights. arum still made astronomical sums of money.
the guerrero fight lost $12 million. at the rate showtime is going, it will go bankrupt in no time. floyd fights are too expensive to make. they need 1.5M ppv just to break even.
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Where is the Link from Cbs/Showtime saying the Lost 12 million???
Stop making **** up!!!!
And I keep telling you ppl not from this Country Showtime is owned by CBS...
CBS is the biggest television network in America..
CBS is worth 100's of billions Floyd money is Not showtime money its CBS money!!!!
CBS is basically playing Floyd to build showtime brand like HBo if not bigger than HBO!!!!
if floyd next fight does 500k its still a win for CBS..//as long as Floyd is Associated with them its a win!!
Since Floyd as been apart of CBS their Stock have been thru the roof...
I can post actual links of the Floyd CBS effect!!!
And manny Don't Cherry Pick Rite??
Since fighting Diaz, Manny has fought:
De La Hoya (coming off a loss to Mayweather)
Hatton (coming off a loss to Mayweather)
Cotto (coming off a loss to Margarito)
Clottey (coming off a loss to Cotto)
Margarito (coming off a loss to Mosley)
Mosley (coming off a loss to Mayweather)
Marquez (coming off a loss to Mayweather, but had a few wins in between)
Bradley (undefeated and lost to him)
Marquez (Put Manny to sleep this time)
Rios (coming off a loss to Alvardo)
Here are Floyd Cherry Picks!!
Saul "Canelo" Alvarez - WBC and WBA Super welterweight (Undefeated)
Robert Guerrero - WBC interim welterweight champion
Miguel Cotto - WBA super welterweight champion/The Ring #1-ranked light middleweight
Victor Ortiz - WBC welterweight champion/The Ring #2-ranked welterweight
Shane Mosley - WBA super-welterweight champion/#1 Ranked welterweight/#3 pound for pound
Juan Manuel Marquez - The Ring lightweight champion/#2 pound-for-pound
Ricky Hatton - The Ring light welterweight champion (Undefeated)
Oscar De La Hoya - WBC light-middleweight titleholder/Cashcow champion
Carlos Baldimir - WBC and The Ring welterweight champion
Zab Judah - IBF welterweight champion
Now Who Cherry Picks???...
Stop Sucking pac Nuts..
Oh God Please Help us..If Dude beats broner..
We will see "floyd ducking maidana"
According to everyone that don't like GBP
(insert name) will beat floyd
The Boxer could be dead"he could beat floyd"
Dudes talking about "if floyd dont fight Lara, I wont respect him"
Do you think floyd and his fans give a **** if you respect him???
Do you think Jordan and the Bulls fans care if the New York Knicks fans Respected him???
At this point in Floyd's career his only a Prize Fighter...dude is Basically A Hollywood Celebrity And will have a Star on the Hollywood walk of Fame one day!!!
If its not a Big Money fight he don't have to take a Risk...If the Cuban Community gets Behind Lara like Mexicans and Canelo..or Ricans with Cotto....Then Floyd will fight him!!!
Floyd is not fighting for Legacy anymore..his Place as a All time Great is already cemented and he is a Future hall of Famer....
I only View Floyd Fights as Boxing Exhibitions at this point...
Floyd wont Take Any Risk Unless the other Fighter bring alot to the table...
And this point in his Career there is no reason to...
to the 35 and under American Born Generation Floyd is the Greatest to ever Do it..Just like to the 20 and under Generation Lebron and Kobe is better than Jordan..
Son give it a Rest..!!
The fight Wont Happen!!!
Floyd is with Showtime...
Pac is with HBO!!!!!
Floyd Hates Arum...Arum Hates GBP and Floyd...
You ****s are so ****ing annoying everyday Ya'll talk about the same ****!!!!
Pac walked away from Blood Testing
Pac walked away from 50-50
Arum wanted to Build a Stadium
Pac turned down 40 million!!!
how come ya'll never talk about the roadblocks pac and Arum put up?
its alot of Blame to go on Both sides....God U ****ing Pac fans are ****ing Annoying and retarded "B'
The Important thing I'll Ask all the Pac Fans!!!
is the Meme a Lie????
I remember Floyd called and Offered him 40 million and the Pac fans on here were Outrage "who does floyd think he is manny is the Bigger Draw" 60-40 Manny or 50/50........
he turned down the offer got Planked by Marquez.......
having Tax Troubles now he want to have a meeting with Floyd!!!!:dance:
Truth Hurts!!!!!
I think GBP can work with Top rank But they will never work with HBO until there is someone new In charge...
Showtime will cut GBP alot of checks to keep fighters on Showtime and not HBO!!! Showtime Pockets is Deeper than HBO because CBS owns them!!!
Whoever came up with GBP and Al Haymon will Stick to Showtime...
And I see fighters like Bradley. Ward, Even Rios signing with GBP in the future...
Too much money over there.
HBO can win tho if they start locking up their Star like the Contract Floyd got with Showtime....
HBO should just start giving fighters like Ward,Pac and Bradley 4-6 fight Deals in the 15-20 million range with PPV upside!!
first of all there was no fight ever turned down, bcus there was no offer in the first place.
if u believe extra drug testing and 40mill + no ppv were genuine then u r clearing naive...
in the end floyd would had broke it down with cant and wont work with bob arum.
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Now there was never an Offer??
So then how can u say Floyd is ducking Manny if there was never a offer for a fight???
I swear you dudes are ****ing retarded..............
When the Joke is about Manny His Fans are like
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i knew from the jump!! this fight wouldn't take Place!!
Bob didn't want it....
These pac Fans don't know **** about boxing u can tell they started watching because of Pac!!!
If Not then they can remember that Bob did the same thing he's doing with manny that he did with Floyd when he wanted to Fight Oscar!!!
Arum refuse to make the Fight happen because he was mad at Oscar for leaving Top Rank!!! Floyd had to buy out his Contract to get that fight with Oscar!!
Please Manny fans Understand..if Floyd didn't Leave Top rank that Oscar fight would never happen!!!
Bob Hates Oscar and Floyd!!!!If pac is serious about Fighting Floyd..Tell him stop being a ***** and Man up like Floyd Buyout his Way from Top rank and Go on his own!!!!
Tell him man the **** up..until then!!! Shut the **** up!!!!
Pac's guaranteed money has been at least 14 million since 2008. The "purse" has to be filed with NSAC or any commision within 48 hours of fight. Then it gets ammended for tax purposes with "Guaranteed" money.
For example..Pac's purse was only listed at 6 million for Mosely filed with NSAC.It was ammended to 20.4 million "guaranteed"...then 27.2 million was filed without taxes coming out. That does not include the $ 2.4 million that Pacquiao got from sponsorship deals.
Money deals with GBP mainly & gets his cake upfront.
May got 41 million purse for Canelo and that will be ammended to ....gulp... $$$ 53 million for that fight after his PPV cut and for tax purposes.
This is also why MoneyMay owed the IRS years ago & Pac is having troubles now.
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And this is exactly why Manny is having tax Problems...Because Bob is saying he's getting 14-18 million up front...But when the Tax collectors get the official papers its saying he's getting paid way less than whats being reported...
This is the reason Bob refuse to release the Records because it will show what Floyd been saying since 2009.... the Most Manny get's per fight is 6 million!!!
You can't tell the Commission 6 million..and then brag that pac Made 30 million...If Pac was making all that Money why is he always getting loans from Bob???
Dude grossed over 150 million in his career...How come Floyd can Show ESPN Over 100 million in one of his accounts but Pac can't find the 50 million pesos to Pay his taxes???
Steven A even repeated what Manny said the following day on national television.
Where was Floyd's tweets saying that's a bold faced lie??? :rofl:
You don't think thousands of dudes were tweeting him what they said on First Take? You really think Floyd would let something like that slide? :rofl:
Dude how can U sit there and believe that ****??
How many other lies did bob say about Floyd and we all knew it was a Lie and Floyd tweet that Bob was lying??
Show me the tweets from pac when floyd camp said something False and pac said TMT GBP were lying.....
Thru the years i've notice one thing....Only time you even hear floyd Mention Top rank or Bob is when someone from the Media bring it up!!! during his Fight Promo!!!
Marquez could Fight Bradley and Bob brings up Floyd!!
I am a Floyd fan but I call him out when he's lying and bull****ting!!
I like Pac too....
But stop taking everything this lil dude say as the trust homie!!!!
Floyd is the Master at Mind games...Why the **** would be give him opponent the upper hand before a fight?? 50% of the **** is Mental why would he give that away??
pac vs bradly rematch will do more than floyd's next fight.
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Rite..You want to Bet on it???
Do you Know how Big the Muslim Population is in America??
Then You have a Muslim fighting the Biggest name in the sport??
I think this might sell more than Hatton in the UK...
And in America I see this doing 1.1-1.3 mill Easily
Dude is lying....
No Fighter or Greats will ever say that!!!
You think Jordan goes into a Finals saying what if I lose???
With Floyd's attitude even if he's thinking that you think he would tell the person he's trying to fight that bull****??
when all floyd do is try to get the Metal Edge?? telling manny that would give manny the mental edge before the fight...
COme on NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He's not teasing. Showtime is pressuring him to fight Pacman.
He's doing everything to stop the fight from happening.
Pac is a left over, according to him. Doesn't sound too eager
to fight Pac. He's still scared.
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Rite..Thats not how a Contract work....
Showtime can't pressure him to fight anyone if his Money is Guaranteed..
See D.Rose last Year playoffs The Fans was putting that pressure on him to come back even some in the Org... in the end he Said No!!!
Did what he wanted to do..the bulls couldn't cut him his Money is Guaranteed!!
But In Contracts their are Intensives to getting more money!
Example(MVP,playing 82 games,making the playoffs)
The Insetive showtime gave floyd to fight great fighters is the PPV split...his per fight deal is 30 million no matter who he fights.
But its up to floyd to Maximize they 30 million to 50-100 million for his fight....
And the Bigger the fight the Higher Guarantee they gave him, 30 for Ghost over 40 for Canelo!! Thats how Sports Contracts work In America Dude!!!
Im sure if he fights pac Showtime will Prob Guarantee him 50-60 million
This would be Good of Floyd!!!
But After the Lawsuit from Pac....
Then the Sly little comments when he caught that case with is Ex-girlfriend!
Also the years of bashing him thru the Media...
Ain't no way in hell Floyd Fights manny...........
If Manny get his Tax issues fixed and Leave Top Rank Yes!!!!
But If Floyd is the key to Pac Staying out of Prison I'll put my life on it that he wont fight him!!!
Then All the Fanboys are making it worse!!! by Harassing Floyd 24/7..
Why should he help your God???
In the eyes of Pac fans he will never he the GOAT...All Fans but Pac fans have a New Respect Level for this dude!!!!:boxing:
1. Rigo will never be a star. Too old and too many barriers: weight, language, age, personality, etc.
2. People are WAY OVERSTATING Floyd's popularity back then. Here is an article from 2005. He went through this EXACT SAME SCENARIO.
June 27, 2005
Undefeated, Unafraid, Unpopular
This Saturday night, the ultratalented Floyd Mayweather Jr. will fight Arturo Gatti for the super lightweight title. It's his biggest bout yet. Few will be rooting for him
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1105325/index.htm
Still, Mayweather remains something less than an attraction in this sport, less desirable than almost all the Latin boxers. "His talent is astounding," says Lou DiBella, a promoter who, while at HBO, tried to sign Mayweather to an $11.5 million, six-fight contract. "But his recognition has not matched his talent. He can't sell tickets. Anyone who thinks he's the A side of this promotion is crazy. It's a Gatti event." And Mayweather knows why: "I got a big mouth." Just ask Leonard.
Of course the Promoter that failed at signing him is going to talk **** about him!!! if he couldn't sell tickets why would he offer him 11 million does that make any ****ing sense?? ****ing idiot
Thats Like trying to sign me to be a Singer for 10 million and I turn u down...sign with another label and then u say well he wont sell any ablums he dont have the talent....
If I didnt have the talent why try to sign me? :rofl:
Foyld was comparing himself to Shane Mosely and Oscar so ppl where holding that against him...
rite keep thinking this bull****!!! do you know anything about boxing???
Floyd was an American Olympian ...that was Robbed at the games...
His father and Uncle were good fighters...and his Uncle was also a Former World Champion....
Dude was a Child Prodigy!!!
The Mayweather last name with Boxing is Like "Manning" in Football..
The father wasn't a Hall of Famer but He groomed his Son's and they went on to become Great players!!!
You have No Idea what ur talking about Homie!!!!!
young ppl took to floyd since day one...I'm sure if u do a Breakdown of his Fanbase 90% of them are under 40...
Floyd also had 3 PPV's before Oscar....
that did Decent Carlos, Zab, and Gatti...
Go try to put Rigo on PPV and see if he can sell 5,000 :rofl:
I have 1 question though, is everybody really buying into this whole thing..
Then are you all saying that Bob Arum is ok with Manny fighting a Golden Boy fighter?? Are you all saying that Bob is ok with Manny fighting Floyd instead of fighting in house Top Rank fighters??
Until Bob is ok with it, none of this means anything.
its believable because Marquez dont want to fight Pac again..
Bradley is the only way Pac can make some money and their first fight wasn't really Entertaining.
Even if Pac Fight Bradley who can Top rank put on the undercard to get over a Million buys??
After the China Flop no way will HBO/Top Rank give Pac that kind of Guarantee $$ again unless he do over 1 mill PPV sales again.
They are really stuck in a hard place right now!!!
even if he fight and get 10 million he have to pay the tax he owes out of it and the Tax for the new fight.....
If he get the Floyd fight he can Clean all his Issues up!!! If Pac goes to jail it will look badfor Bob and the future of Top Rank...So I believe it!!!
Its now up to Floyd would he care Enough to Help Manny??
Rite!!!!
This ***** Realize floyd is the only one can keep him out of Jail....
And you Pac fans are still thhrowing shots at floyd??
Ya'll should be beggin him to fight Pac right now!!!http://digital-photo.com.au/gallery3/var/albums/People/Street%20Photography/Man-begging-on-his-knees_MG_4120.jpg?m=1335136003
After trying to sue floyd for Millions(over PEDS)
After All the Bull**** Arum did to try and make Floyd look like he was the one that never wanted the fight!!!! they got alot of fans to turn against floyd!!!
Walking away from the Fight 50/50............
U offered him 40 million and he hung up on you!!!
And now Floyd should fight you can you can gain some funds to get u out of ur Tax issues!!!!
I always wanted this Fight but rite now?? **** no!!!!!!! Karma is a ***** and God dont like Ugly :rofl:
Let them dude go to Jail!!!!!!